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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: 08055 on July 24, 2010, 11:43:49 AM
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I have been reading and enjoying this forum for about 2 years now. This is my first post.
I have been changing my carry weapon over the years from Ruger SP 101 to Wilson Combat CQB Compact to my current CCW- Para PDA 9 mm. The Para PDA is a fine CCW, however, it weighs 23 oz. I think it is time for me to consider pocket carry and I have been looking for a pocket pistol.
I have not fired a Rohrbaugh yet, however, I have looked, held and dry fired a Rohrbaugh at the dealer and it feels good to me. The only thing that worries me is the possibility of slide bite. Of course there is no beaver tail on the Rohrbaugh but the shape of the back strap in relation to the slide worries me. I am sure you understand what I am talking about.
Did anybody in this forum experience a slide bite when shooting the Rohrbaugh?
Thanks in advance.
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I've never had any problem with it or anyone I've let shoot mine. It just plain works!
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08055. Welcome to the Forum:
I really think you would like an R9. I bought mine sight unseen, never even held or seen one. Haven't regretted it one bit.
Usually after one, some folks want another, then another; and even another; don't know why that is; just happens.
Good luck with your decision. I think you would be a proud owner.
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08055, welcome to the forum, continue to enjoy it. In all the posts from new owners, over the years, i've never read about any slide bite. if you need help PM me. Tom
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08055, regarding slide bite, I have four Rohrbaughs, two 9mm and two .380s. I have never experienced any problems at all. I have medium size hands. If that tells you anything. Also I highly recommend Tom Watson. He will make everything go smooth. Gene
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No slide bite here...
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Welcome to the group. I have had no issues with slide bite, nor have I read any post on here that it has ever been an issue.
Try it, you'll like it ;D
John
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This pup doesn't bite.
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08055:
And a welcome to the Forum from me as well.
As for slide bite, take it from one who still has a faint scar on the web of his right hand left from Walther PPK slide bites some 40 years ago, there is no such problem with the R9.
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Having a "large hand", I can say I have never been close to a pup bite from a slide...I would venture to say that unless ones hands were very large and the web of the hand were puffy or "fat", the chances of this are slim...the curve at the top of the backstrap is just to far removed from "slide action".
Welcome to the board.....
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The danger of slide bite is remote. The danger of wanting a second, and third pup in your litter is a much greater possibility.
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As with all "small" semi autos,the possibility of getting that web of your hand chewed on is there,but with the positioning of the pup in the hand,the chance is very remote!!
I,myself have not had a single instance of the pup biting in my limited shooting of them.. ;)
BTW,welcome to the forum!!
Brenden
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08055, realized after the post re "slide bite" that I had neglected to welcome you to the forum. Allow me to do so now. I think that you will enjoy it. You'll find some of the most helpful and informed people ever gathered together in one spot right here. And everyone willing to help. So, again welcome, post often and love your pup! Gene
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Welcome to the forum.
I would say I have larger hands and have no problem with slide bite with the Rohrbaugh. I think their design was sound from the begining and you will not have any problem where this is concerned.
The Walther PPK does slice the web of my hand. Just listing this as a reference point for you, in case you have handled the Walther before.
Pete
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Welcome to the fire 08055!
While my glove size varies from medium to medium large, I always grip my handguns a high as possible to get the best control of the gun.
I have yet to get a slide bite from my R9.
Good Luck
Reinz
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Well I would say by the overwhelming response of NO slide bite
this concern has been laid to rest. ;D
John
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Many thanks to all of you forum members for your replies and expert opinions. This is indeed a great forum. I will definitely acquire the pocket pistol, which according to Jim Cirillo, is the greatest backup gun in the world. :)
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Today, I placed my order for the R9S Standard. I was told that it will take 8 weeks of waiting time. I will look forward to have the pistol in my pocket in October. :)
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Congratulations, hopefully your pup will arrive sooner than expected.
Now your biten. :)
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0855. Way to go on ordering the R9. As Reinz says, maybe the little wonder will arrive much sooner. I know you're going to be a happy owner, for sure!
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08055,
Belated welcome to the forum and I concur with all the others who have claimed there is no slide bite with the Rohrbaugh.
One of my favorite guns is a vintage Walther PPK, mint condition, glorious royal blue finish, perfect grips, all German, 1966, pre 1968 gun ban, pre Interarms. Now, that bites!
Every once in a while I carry the PPK but the R9 (ultimately) wins out because of the absence of slide bite and superior cartridge to the .380.
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Welcome to the forum. I have shot over 400 rds through my Pup and never got bit
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I have been carrying guns for the past 3 years WITH A ROUND LOADED IN THE CHAMBER. Carrying without a round in the chamber is very similar to carrying a useless gun.
Why does the Rohrbaugh manual warns " Do not carry this firearm with a round loaded in the chamber" ???
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Just for legal protection for the company, I have heard.
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The loaded chamber debate has been taken up elsewhere, in this forum, with the overwhelming majority voting for it.
"Condition 3", as I understand it, is carrying a pistol with a full magazine but empty chamber. Factory's incentive is liability reduction.
We have morphed from a country of self reliant individuals to way, way too many lawyers unconcerned with justice and more concerned with "who has money"?
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ACP:
As a lawyer (one of the "good ones" who believe in, support, and defend the Second Amendment as that which stands as a defense of all other Amendments in the Bill of Rights), I approve your message. 8)
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People rant and rave about lawyers without differentiating between the bad ones and the good ones (like Richard) who are on our side. If it weren't for the the good ones, then the bad ones would have won long ago. I think we need to give credit to the ones on our side. Gene
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Concur. I know, from his postings, that Richard is an attorney and at no time have I ever considered him an unfriendly. He is rightfully respected as a leader in this forum and I cannot imagine that his character, though unknown to me personally, does not follow.
I do, however, stand by the point I made about lawyers. All of them? No. But try to watch more than 15 minutes of commercial television without being solicited as a victim by an attorney.
Our culture is greatly informed by the drama of the courtroom, whether it is fictitious, (Law & Order), or real; gov blago. What we need, in my view, is tort reform in which the party which brings suit pays costs if it loses a case.
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Why does the Rohrbaugh manual warns " Do not carry this firearm with a round loaded in the chamber" ???
As KJ said, to protect the Co. Think about it, " you have a gun with no safety----- how can you reccomend carrying a round in the chamber?" says the prosecutor.
Even though the safety is between our ears.
Such clauses you (08055) just brought up are referred to as "Risk Management"
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* * * But try to watch more than 15 minutes of commercial television without being solicited as a victim by an attorney.
Our culture is greatly informed by the drama of the courtroom, whether it is fictitious, (Law & Order), or real; gov blago. What we need, in my view, is tort reform in which the party which brings suit pays costs if it loses a case.
Again, I concur with the remarks of the gentleman from Vermont.
When I took the Bar examination, it was considered unseemly (if not a violation of the Rules of Professional Responsibility) for an attorney to advertise other than placing a discreet entry in the telephone directory or list credentials and specialties in a publication such as Martindale-Hubble®. And such tort reform as the gentleman mentions is long overdue.
Further, this member sayeth not and, with the final assertion that the R9 has no "slide bite," yields the floor. 8)
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here here, I would give Richard a loud and long hand clap, if I didn't have a Guinness in one hand and a Black Bush in the other. ;D Tom
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Way to go, there, Tom; enjoy! :D
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The R9S I ordered 3 weeks ago arrived at the gun shop today. I am pleasantly surprised that it was delivered ahead of schedule.
I have several questions:
1. can I dry fire this pistol frequently?
2. do I need to acquire a channel lock pliers to be able to reinsert the recoil spring assembly?
3. the external recoil spring have finished/formed ends (both ends) unlike in the old pictures wherein there is unfinished end on one side and a finished end on the other. Is this the usual appearance of the more recent external recoil springs?
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08055:
Congratulations!
To answer your questions in order:
1. Yes. (I recommend using Snap Caps).
2. No. (Many owners of the R9 use channel lock pliers to compress the recoil spring assembly for reinsertion in the slide, but I have never found it necessary. One of John's ("Yankee's") takedown tools that were developed by R. J. Hedley helps a lot in the reassembly process.)
3. Yes. (The factory changed the recoil springs a couple of years ago to finish both ends. If the original springs were installed backwards, malfunctions would occur.)
Good luck with your new masterpiece.
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Congratulations, 08055, in getting the R9S. To your questions, what Richard said. Enjoy the little wonder.
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08055 - the long wait is over- enjoy!
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MY BRIEF HISTORY WITH THE ROHRBAUGH
2008 - I started looking for a pocket pistol and I learned about the Rohrbaugh. I started reading this forum.
July 24, 2010 - I wrote my first post in this forum and I asked about the possibility of slide bite. The unanimous responses of the forum members were NO SLIDE BITE.
August 11, 2010 - I ordered the Rohrbaugh R9S Standard.
September 1, 2010 - I got my Rohrbaugh R9S Standard.
September 4, 2010 - I went to the local indoor range and I fired the Rohrbaugh R9S for the first time: 20 rounds of Winchester 115 gr FMJ and 6 rounds of Speer Gold Dots 124 gr. ..............FLAWLESS
I have evolved in my choice of concealed carry weapon from Ruger SP 101 to Kimber Ultra Aegis II to Wilson Combat CQB Compact to Para PDA and now to Rohrbaugh R9S Standard.
In my opinion, the Rohrbaugh R9S is the perfect balance of concealability and firepower. I think my search for the ultimate concealed carry weapon has ended. Many thanks to Rohrbaugh Firearms and to the members of this forum.
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Great, 08055. Glad everthing is to your liking, and, excellent range session. Continue to enjoy.
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08055
Nice story. My first R9s was a Farmingdale in 2005 which I ,foolishly, sold. I have owned 5 R9s in various configurations and finishes and now have the Robar R9s which, to me, is the best R9 out there, short of the original Farmingadle.
There are never too may R9s. You may consider in future to graduate to a Robar R9 or even acquire a (now) discontinued model such as a Stealth or Special Forces model ,depending on your finances, but welcome to the addiction that keeps on giving.
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MY BRIEF HISTORY WITH THE ROHRBAUGH
2008 - I started looking for a pocket pistol and I learned about the Rohrbaugh. I started reading this forum.
July 24, 2010 - I wrote my first post in this forum and I asked about the possibility of slide bite. The unanimous responses of the forum members were NO SLIDE BITE.
August 11, 2010 - I ordered the Rohrbaugh R9S Standard.
September 1, 2010 - I got my Rohrbaugh R9S Standard.
September 4, 2010 - I went to the local indoor range and I fired the Rohrbaugh R9S for the first time: 20 rounds of Winchester 115 gr FMJ and 6 rounds of Speer Gold Dots 124 gr. ..............FLAWLESS
I have evolved in my choice of concealed carry weapon from Ruger SP 101 to Kimber Ultra Aegis II to Wilson Combat CQB Compact to Para PDA and now to Rohrbaugh R9S Standard.
In my opinion, the Rohrbaugh R9S is the perfect balance of concealability and firepower. I think my search for the ultimate concealed carry weapon has ended. Many thanks to Rohrbaugh Firearms and to the members of this forum.
08055:
That evolutionary chronology and the ultimate conclusion in many ways reflect my own search for the "perfect pocket pistol."
Wather PPK - 1963-1983
Colt Mustang - 1983-1999
NAA Guardian (.32) - 1999-2001
NAA Guardian (.380) - 2001-2004
Rohrbaugh R9 - Prototype spotted at 2002 SHOT Show; R9 ordered immediately thereafter and received in May 2004, thus ending a search which had spanned 40 years.
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Funny thing; I never carried a pocket pistol until '09. Started with a Seecamp .32, then the R9, then got another. Did have a .25 way back when, but didn't carry it; in fact, didn't carry anything. Those were the days!
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08055, Welcome to the forum/family. Your search for a carry gun is similar to alot of us. With the idea being to carry all the time. I'm glad we were able to help in your R9s choice, enjoy. Tom
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Second range session with the pup:
I fired 7 rounds of 124 gr Speer Gold Dots
12 rounds of 115 gr Speer Gold Dots
24 rounds of 115 gr FMJ Winchester
Everything is well. ;D
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Excellent. Glad everything went well. :)
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08055,
Welcome to the forum!!!
Glad the Pup has become your companion!!
Brenden