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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R380 => Topic started by: Nra-Life-Member on February 18, 2009, 05:47:22 PM
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My would I want a 380 verses the 9mm model. Less recoil would be my only answer - which may help with quicker target acquisition.
I have the 9mm for about 2 weeks now, and it's a nice machine..
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I guess my question is: Why purchase the .380 vs. the 9mm AT THE SAME PRICE? :-/
That's what doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me when there are already many other light, small, .380's already on the market with more to follow? Since the size, weight and PRICE of this pistol are the same as the R9 I would buy another R9 for the $$$. (Or, maybe a Seecamp .380 ;D )
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I guess my question is: Why purchase the .380 vs. the 9mm AT THE SAME PRICE? :-/
That's what doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me when there are already many other light, small, .380's already on the market with more to follow? Since the size, weight and PRICE of this pistol are the same as the R9 I would buy another R9 for the $$$. (Or, maybe a Seecamp .380 ;D )
Nice point. Yes, for the price - the 9mm would be the way to go (IMHO). For a lady, the 380 might be smarter. From what I can see, it's the same amount of work that goes into the 380 as the 9mm, so you are paying for excellent workmanship.. It's not mass production.. and not made in China
;D
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I have the R9s and the Seecamp .380 but I am still getting the R380. Some of us mousegun nuts just like to collect and keep these things. :)
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I am afraid getting involved with these guns might be like buying my 1st 1911 or HK P7.. It never ends..
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I am afraid getting involved with these guns might be like buying my 1st 1911 or HK P7.. It never ends..
That might be an accurate asessment. A year ago I had one Seecamp and now I have three Seecamps and the second Rohrbaugh is on the way. Those things multiply like rabbits. :)
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I have the R9s and the Seecamp .380 but I am still getting the R380. Some of us mousegun nuts just like to collect and keep these things. :)
henryk,
I hear you loud and clear!!! And, I understand. And, I have no doubt that this R380 is a superb pisol. If it gives you pleasure please allow me to be the first to say to you and to anyone else "Go for it!!" :) It is a great choice.
I also have no doubt as to the value of the R380. I know that it takes the same material, same amount of time to produce, etc. as it's 9mm sibling so I have no negative feelings about any of that.
I'm just sayin' that with all the other small, light weight, concealable .380's out there, including many high quality choices, for $1169.00 I would opt for another 9mm version and something smaller in a .380.
But hey, as the old saying goes: Opinions are like a**holes,
everybody has one. This one is only mine. ;D
Regards and congrats on your soon to be new .380.
Quiet1
PS I would be delighted to own one too. ;)
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I can help ones desire to own one now, I have some in stock. Tom
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Hello. I am new to the forum and am trying to decide on the new Rohrbaugh 380 or the Seecamp 380. I have just received a new Seecamp 32 and am very impressed.
Any advice?
Ken
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Tom, after showing my wife Richards seecamp 32 I started looking for one. She now carries a Keltec p32 or S&W 38 snub.
In another life she was in law enforcement but still complains about recoil from the 38 however she loves the p32.
She hates my r9s because of the recoil, How much better is the 380 in this reguard?
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Dino, The new R380 is like shooting a .22lr. Tom
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Hello. I am new to the forum and am trying to decide on the new Rohrbaugh 380 or the Seecamp 380. I have just received a new Seecamp 32 and am very impressed.
Any advice?
Ken
Ken:
Welcome!
If this is of any assistance, the Seecamp .380 is a straight-blowback design. The Rohrbaugh .380 is a locked-breech design. Both are superb pocket pistols, but in the identical caliber a straight-blowback pistol will produce greater felt recoil than one with a locked-breech mechanism.
[size=10]Edited: Corrected typo -- "breach" to "breech." Sorry.[/size]
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Richard:
Many thanks for the info! I do like the locked breech on the
Rohrbaugh. That information helps alot.
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Hello. I am new to the forum and am trying to decide on the new Rohrbaugh 380 or the Seecamp 380. I have just received a new Seecamp 32 and am very impressed.
Any advice?
Ken
That is a hard question. I have a few LWS .380s - not counting several LWS .32s. So you could say I am a Seecamp nut. The recoil on the LWS .380 is a challenge. I usually wear a bandaid on my trigger finger to keep it from bleeding from hitting the trigger guard on recoil.
Saying all of this if I could only buy one - given I already had a R9 and a Seecamp LWS .32 - I probably would go with the LWS .380 because of the size difference.
That is not saying if I had the funds I would not also get a the R-380 sometime to go along with my R-9. I also have .380s in a Colt Government and Ruger LCP - so I like the caliber.
I have purchased a R-9, Seecamp LWS .32 and LWS .380 from Tom Watson here on the forum. Wonderful guy to do business with.
Dave
One of my LWS .380s with a SS# STING - named aflter the sword of Bilbo and Frodo in the Hobbit and Lord Of The Rings books.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/melissa1948/P1010776.jpg)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/melissa1948/P1010767.jpg)
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Or ST1NG can be when you finger hits the front of that guard ;) Also Kjtrains if you got both the seecamps .32/.380 you could use the same holster for both of them,I have five different holsters for my LWS .32 and just ordered a LWS .380 last week so the holsters I have will work for the .380 also ;D
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Another good point. I like the size of the LWS 32 and have the Akers front pocket holster. The LWS .380 would be right at home in this.
Many thanks!
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Nra-Life-Member, Welcome to the forum. I get to do alot of test firing. Every gun that leaves the factory get 5 shots. We shoot into a big steel box full of chunks of rubber. The front of the box has a thick rubber sheet that holds everything in. I always put a piece of cardboard on so I can see my groups. Distance is maybe 5 ft. For me 5 shots with an R-9 can be covered with a half dollar, 5 shots with the 380 can be covered with a quarter. That being said I love my R-9 and that is what I carry. My wife will soon be the proud owner of a k380. So much softer to shoot. Dan
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I'm a newbe here but if anticipation of recoil is the #1 reason for missing your target, the R380 should win hands down.
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if anyone is looking for the K380, I have some in stock. Tom
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I'm a newbe here but if anticipation of recoil is the #1 reason for missing your target, the R380 should win hands down.
Welcome to the forum, choppers!
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Thanks for the welcome. I received my .380 only 5 days ago. Have not shot it yet but am looking forward to it. I think the .380 is 6oz. lighter then the 9mm but are they the same width and height as the 9mm? Are the grips interchangeable? Thanks for any help! I will be searching for some wood grips if anyone can help on that also.
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Six ounces lighter than a 12.8 ounce R9? That is huge.
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choppers:
And a welcome from me as well! Please give us a range report on your new masterpiece.
By the way, I had thought that the only appreciable weight differential between the 9mm Parabellum and the .380 ACP (9mm Kurz) models would be in the loaded pistols due to the minimal difference in comparative weight of the two calibers of ammunition. As Tracker notes, a six ounce differential would be huge.
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Thanks for the welcome. I received my .380 only 5 days ago. Have not shot it yet but am looking forward to it. I think the .380 is 6oz. lighter then the 9mm but are they the same width and height as the 9mm? Are the grips interchangeable? Thanks for any help! I will be searching for some wood grips if anyone can help on that also.
Choppers. Congratulions on getting the .380. I agree, also, with Trackers comment on the 6 ozs. being huge. Think of putting a 6 oz. beverage in your pocket and walking around with it; then removing it; big difference.
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OK, do I feel stupid. The R9 is 12.8 oz. and the .380 is 12 oz. That's .8 of one ounce difference, I must have had a brain fart. Sorry!
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OK, do I feel stupid. The R9 is 12.8 oz. and the .380 is 12 oz. That's .8 of one ounce difference, I must have had a brain fart. Sorry!
Don't give it another thought. This is not a gun forum where members attempt to pose as "world's leading experts." The purpose here is to learn about the pistols which broght us together in the first place and to enjoy the process at the same time.
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Amen, and welcome, choppers.
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Thanks Tracker. I'm sure we could debate the 9mm and .380 till the cows come home. I think its what your comfort level is and the sitituation you put your self in most of time. For a pocket carry for my casual day the .380 works for me. I realize it is a up close and personnel weapon. For an attacker who is in my face, a double tap with a .380 and the right ammo (Hornady Critical Defense) I gott feel that is going to change an attackers though process. A .380 is a neck sticker. If an assaliant is much further away I'm probably headed for the hills in the oppsite direction. Now that is not to say that I don't carry a Para Slim Hawg 45 when I depart to a different routeen. I am reminded of an artical I read about the NY and LAPD reports that officers involved in shootings in less then 6' away, officers missed there target over 60% of the time. That shows what pressure can do to someone. That's scarry!
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Choppers. You'll do fine with the .380. I still carry my Seecamp .32 alot and feel comfortable with it. I do like the R9, no question.
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http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=786
Many of you have seen the Hornady website above; I think 1000 fps
from the .380 muzzle with excellent expansion is quite acceptable.
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I don't usually comment on the .380 string but I was shocked to see two boxes of Remington .380 ammo on gunbroker for over $90.00!
The good news is that there were no bids, at least when I looked at it 2 days ago. I recall having read tracker's comment as to .380 shortage but this is ridiculous.
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Ouch! The last I paid 2 months ago for .380's was $18.50 a box of 20, Gold Dots.
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That is not a bad price for premium ammo.
The Remington .380 I saw on gunbroker was FMJ standard box of 50 rounds. It had a "buy now" feature that I think read $97.50.
If I ever pay $48.00 (and change) for a box of standard .380 ammo, just shoot me.
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That might be an accurate asessment. A year ago I had one Seecamp and now I have three Seecamps and the second Rohrbaugh is on the way. Those things multiply like rabbits. :)
So I wonder why they were no coined as "rabbitguns" and not "mouseguns". I would have made more sense.
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Welcome to the forum 1brokejoke. The mouse gun is so called due to the size of the gun. Here is a link that explains the reasoning.
http://www.mouseguns.com/semis.htm
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welcome also 1brokejoke, enjoy the forum. Tom
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1brokejoke:
And a welcome from me as well. I think you will find it to be a knowledgeable and amicable group around this campfire.
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Thank you kjtrains for the post of mouseguns. Wow; I never knew there were so many.
I have never owned a Seecamp but I know they are well made, but tiny! For years the Seecamp was the gold standard and was, (in my experience), allocated and sold above MRP.
However, the Rohrbaugh, for me, changed everything. I prefer the 9MM power although I have no wish to open the highly charged debate as to the efficacy of the .32 or .380.
Everyone on this forum knows the one about the .32 or .380 in the pocket being better than the gun you left at home.
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Or the runway behind you, the altitude above you, or the fuel you left in the truck.
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One presumes tracker refers to flight; military at that. This is something, I for one, have great respect for and would venture a guess that very few of us on the forum have the honor to have enjoyed.
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Thank you, sir; running out of altitude, airspeed, and ideas not only applies to military aviation but also to commercial and many other facets of life. As one of my astute friends once observed: "fuel is a substitute for brains."
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Tracker flew warbirds off of aircraft carriers as a Navy pilot. I took up recreational flying after my Army service and "puttered" around the sky in a Cessna 150. However, I can still hear my old flight instructor's mantra, "Altitude is your friend."
(I can also still hear his admonishment on more than one occasion: %^&* @#, you ain't driving your sports car here! Lighten up on the %^&* controls!" ;D )