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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: DDGator on November 16, 2011, 06:28:21 PM
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Well, the title of this thread is quite a tease...
As I revealed in a new thread about the status of the R45, the factory has confirmed there will be a new Rohrbaugh R9 model in time for SHOT 2012.
More than that, I cannot say. I doubt you could guess this one, but I am sure you will all try.
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I say it has night sights. ;D
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I say it has night sights. ;D
Too easy! ;D
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How about a silver or hard chrome frame and a Stealth slide? Or checkered frontstrap and backstrap? Or better yet, all the above.
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Now, you know that is not going to happen KJ... ;)
I should start threat in the R-9 forum so we don't hijack this thread.
Yep! DDG. I knew; had to give it a shot! ;)
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Steel frame, checkerd, safety, slide stop, conventional mag release and built in lazer.
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plastic R9
PS. I think I read more about this on a NY forum a few weeks back. I'll look.
EDIT, Just found what I had read http://longislandfirearmsfreedomfund.org/forum/m-1262812058/s-70/highlight-r9/#num69
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After some more reading on that forum i'll make another guess.
could it be the " “full-sized” R9 Series 9mm pistol" that a select few at the 2010 shot show got to see?
Might be interesting! Can't wait to see what they have come up with.
Maybe a double stack?
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Just my thoughts but making an entirely new model 9mm (full size) would be as time consuming as making a 45 caliber model and would generate less interest.
I think it will be a variation of the current model which is much easier to do.
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All I know is if they introduce a special edition with checkering on the front & back straps, I'll be first in line! I have a question for some of the more experienced owners. How long does it usually take for a run of one of their special editions like the Roar or Elite to sell out?
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All I know is if they introduce a special edition with checkering on the front & back straps, I'll be first in line! I have a question for some of the more experienced owners. How long does it usually take for a run of one of their special editions like the Roar or Elite to sell out?
The Robar and Elite were not special editions, although there was a Premium Elite, that was offered and only 16 were made. The Robar and Elite were discontinued on Rohrbaugh's decision, and not based on a sell out.
That being said, it would be really hard to tell, when or if, a new model of the R9 would end, once produced.
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My interest in the R9 is that it is the smallest, lightest 9mm semi-auto that works reliably and consistently.
I personally am not interested in a .45 ACP in the same form factor because that's too much punishment to my hand - that's just me.
If Rohrbaugh made a 9mm in a slightly larger form factor, it would just put that pistol in the category of Kahr MK9/CM9/PM9 - Kimber Solo, Boberg XR9-S, LC9 et all. I would be evaluating the larger Rohrbaugh 9mm against the original R9 and probably settle on the R9 for carry.
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Well said COuntZerO! I couldn't find a "quote" tabl on this new format, but agree with your last post fully.
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My interest in the R9 is that it is the smallest, lightest 9mm semi-auto that works reliably and consistently.
I personally am not interested in a .45 ACP in the same form factor because that's too much punishment to my hand - that's just me.
If Rohrbaugh made a 9mm in a slightly larger form factor, it would just put that pistol in the category of Kahr MK9/CM9/PM9 - Kimber Solo, Boberg XR9-S, LC9 et all. I would be evaluating the larger Rohrbaugh 9mm against the original R9 and probably settle on the R9 for carry.
Well said COuntZerO! I couldn't find a "quote" tabl on this new format, but agree with your last post fully.
I do agree.
But mostly I'm just showing off that I found the Quote button!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D
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40 cal ?
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As you know, I am sworn to secrecy on these things. However, I make two observations based upon experience and not secret knowledge...
1) A bigger R9 wouldn't really be an R9, and would be a new model that would create many of the same problems as introducing a new R45 model.
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2) A .40 caliber pistol would not, by definition, be an R9 -- it would be an R40. For the record, I have never heard the R-bros speak of an R40.
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As you know, I am sworn to secrecy on these things. However, I make two observations based upon experience and not secret knowledge...
1) A bigger R9 wouldn't really be an R9, and would be a new model that would create many of the same problems as introducing a new R45 model.
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2) A .40 caliber pistol would not, by definition, be an R9 -- it would be an R40. For the record, I have never heard the R-bros speak of an R40.
+1 ;D
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Maybe they've modified the slide design to install Tritium sights?
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Night sights was my first guess. ;D
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Night sights was my first guess. ;D
OK, John; now, how about a 2nd guess; I don't have a clue! ;D
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Night sights was my first guess. ;D
Sorry John, I missed your first post. My brain must already be on Thanksgiving vacation.
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My vote goes for Polygonal Rifled Barrels, checkered front strap, and some type of 'Dot System' on the sights.
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My vote goes for Polygonal Rifled Barrels, checkered front strap, and some type of 'Dot System' on the sights.
I don't think they would change the riffling in the barrels, a lot of investment for a little gain. Checkering or dot sights, maybe. ;D
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My vote is to leave it the way it is now so I don't HAVE to buy another one. :)
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My vote goes for Polygonal Rifled Barrels, checkered front strap, and some type of 'Dot System' on the sights.
I don't think they would change the riffling in the barrels, a lot of investment for a little gain. Checkering or dot sights, maybe. ;D
They can outsource the rifled blanks like Kahr does and finish the machining in house which they need to do anyway.
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My vote is to leave it the way it is now so I don't HAVE to buy another one. :)
Jack I think your on to something there. ;D
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The new model R9 is coming; voting won't help! ;D
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It will help pass the time. ;D
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I need to tell my wife I need a "get a free gun" for Christmas coupon. ;)
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My wife would say," Yeah! Right"! Although,........... I may try that! :)
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The new model R9 is coming; voting won't help! ;D
Obviously Duane was instructed to announce this new model, so I assume the Brothers are reading this. Looks like a good time to make our wishes known.
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In that case, my wish is for checkering rather than Tritium sights. I can learn to point shoot better but the grip tape I put on just doesn't look proper. I was going to send mine in to Bob Cogan for a little custom work but I think I'll wait to see what Rohrbaugh has up their sleeves first.
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I wouldn't care to fire an R40 if it was on the same platform as the R9. The 9mm version takes a firm grip to control - a .40 S&W would be more of a handful than I want to endure. I have three .40 S&W pistols. The full size H&K USP is quite controllable. Ditto for my SIG P239. But my old Star Firestar compact is a handful even though it is all steel and quite heavy.
My early serial number R9s is great just the way it came from Rohrbaugh. Maybe I will pick up a Stealth- or a Robar-type R9 someday just because my R9s is beginning to show a little bit of holster wear after 6+ years of daily carry (and more than 3,000 rounds fired.) The trigger sold me on R9, and it's still the best of any firearm I own.
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all titanium! :P
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Although its nice to wish I think the new model is already well in the works or already completed if it is to be out in a couple of months for SHOT 2012. :P
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Guessing what it will be is still allowed! ;D
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The countdown starts.
The show dates for 2012 SHOT are January 17-20 at the Sands Expo & Convention Center. ;D ;D
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Great, John. Thanks! :)
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You guys are freakin amazing!! Can't cha just wait My wife's Bday is Sunday and I "had to" give her the card and gift yesterday,,,,,,,,,,,,yeah, yesterday. Yeah, I caved :D, good thing the Rohrbaughs didn't tell me what's coming up, I'd probably blat it all out on youtube or somethin :) :) :) Ricardo
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My guess is an external safety mechanism of some sort and perhaps a loaded chamber indicator....makes it compliant in more states?
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I'm thinking grip screws that don't self remove. ;)
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Welcome to the forum Moonshine....I had a Kimber SOLO for a little while, the screws on it fell clear out...never had that happen on the R9, but have had them loosen. Yankee sells some nice grip screws that helps bunches in that department.
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There is a loaded chamber indicator on the pup; the extractor protrudes from the slide when the chamber is empty and goes flush when a round is loaded. It may not be as obvious as some other guns but it is there.
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Yup, that's right Tracker...it's there...didn't think of it like that before but it is. I still say an external safety mechanisim or white or night sights.
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Have you seen the loaded chamber indicator on the SR9c? It sticks up so high on the slide that it almost interferes with the sight picture.
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Yes, saw that...not a very good design. Didn't like how the pistol felt in my hand either, a bit long (front to back) in the grip for me.
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Also, I read that the SR9c may tend to be a "light striker." I really don't need that feature if it is true.
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oh, oh, i think i know what the next Rohrbaugh introduction will be:
a new super-mini R9s that's half as big and half the weight as the current version! :o
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This is easy.
It's the PPR-40.
That's the "Phased Plasma Rohrbaugh, in the 40 Watt range." :o
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This is easy.
It's the PPR-40.
That's the "Phased Plasma Rohrbaugh, in the 40 Watt range." :o
I'm going to be offering the 80 watt upgrade as soon as the gun is released. :D ;D
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Sign me up...just no farting bananas please... :D
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It's 2012 now...
Did I miss something?
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It's 2012 now...
Did I miss something?
I think we have to wait until after the shot show.
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Don't get all excited guys...all it is going to be is a color change....PINK for the ladies!
Hey, how about a .327 mag version?
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Perhaps the better title would have been "New R9 Model for 2012..."
The new model will be introduced at the SHOT Show, which starts January 16th.
Luckily, I will be there, ready to file a report--with pictures! ;)
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Very good! And pictures! :)
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I know what it is but want to see the pictures. 8)
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It can't be too radical a change from what we have now, or it would take five years to actually produce a gun. Gene
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If I was one of the Brother's R...I'd be giving a clue or at least communicating with the ones who, more than anything, keep their product in the limelight....Let's face it, not much magazine coverage of the R9...a simple advertisement don't get it done...anyone who wants to know about the Rohrbaugh comes to this forum. Lots of competition out there.... If I was in the business, I'd be giving some information to those who support me....hello....I see the dude from VZ grips on here...and I bought his grips, not just for the R9, but for a 1911 as well...just good business. Can someone who speaks to the Brothers communicate this? Or are they oblivious and uncaring to us who support them?
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If I was one of the Brother's R...I'd be giving a clue or at least communicating with the ones who, more than anything, keep their product in the limelight....Let's face it, not much magazine coverage of the R9...a simple advertisement don't get it done...anyone who wants to know about the Rohrbaugh comes to this forum. Lots of competition out there.... If I was in the business, I'd be giving some information to those who support me....hello....I see the dude from VZ grips on here...and I bought his grips, not just for the R9, but for a 1911 as well...just good business. Can someone who speaks to the Brothers communicate this? Or are they oblivious and uncaring to us who support them?
Oblivious and uncaring? No.
I've had the pleasure of meeting both of the Rohrbaugh brothers face-to-face, and they care. Deeply.
But they told me they do not have much time to monitor internet forums, as they are a small shop, and keep busy producing the absolutely best product they know how to build.
Part of Karl's frustration was summed up thus: "Everybody with a computer is an expert".
So much mis-information, that fighting it is fruitless.
The Rohrbaughs appreciate us, their knowlegable customers, to straighten out those that don't have a clue.
I told Karl there is only one thing I wish was different about my R9- I wish it was my name engraved in the side instead of his! He got a kick out of that.....
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Good info Recluse... But gosh, a few minutes of an update to the forum that probably sells more of their guns than they could imagine would be great... I understand they are busy though. But, if it was my product, I'd certainly monitor the forum that is all about my product. And, if I had something new hitting the market, I'd post a clue before someone went out and bought a Khar or something. There is a lot, and growing, of competition out there in the mini-9 market. Just my $.02 though... They must have a reason for the keeping product updates and potentially new products a secret.
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I know what it is but want to see the pictures. 8)
And that is?
It going to be 3 sdjhdsfbfb fbebrfrekb mern beerkbe sghd d a s. ;D
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Jawol, Herr Unteroffizier!
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Well, for what its worth -- a lot of info does come out here first. And, there have been special offers made only to forum members. However, the SHOT show is traditionally a time for announcements in the shooting industry.
Karl and Eric do every much appreciate the forum and the loyal fans who frequent this site. However, you have to understand that the internet is a two headed monster in many ways. This forum is largely a great benefit to them in helping to spread the word -- but internet ramblings cause them lots of trouble too. Many more people use the internet as a place to complain than they do to praise. If one anonymous person doesn't like your product--their opinion can spread like wildfire whether they know of what they speak or not.
As for secrecy -- I think Rohrbaugh treats product introductions a lot like Apple. If you don't give a due date, you can't be late. If you don't make promises about new products before they are actually ready, you don't disappoint. The new model is scheduled to be ready for SHOT -- and that is when it will be done and the specs are finalized. I don't think there is a lot more to it than that.
And I think that the R-9 has had quite a bit of magazine coverage. It's been on the cover of American Hangunner twice I think, and featured in a lot of reviews elsewhere. I suspect another one is coming. I have personally published a review of the R-9 on two occasions. Given the number of units that are sold, the coverage is really pretty good.
As for whether they care -- this is pretty much their life. They work long hours in a small company making guns, and trying to recoup their investment and make enough money to keep making guns. They are certainly not getting rich, so I sure hope they are enjoying themselves, at least.
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I wondered who would bring that up. That is a PERFECT example of making a time promise that didn't happen, and why they won't do it again.
Would they have been better off just keeping their mouths shut instead of releasing inside information to this forum? YES. Lesson learned.
So that is exactly why you won't hear about new products anymore until they are ready to go. If you commit to a date and miss it -- you are deemed by some to be a bad manufaucturer who can't meet its commitments, and has no respect for its customers. On the other hand, if you wait to announce a new product until it's ready to go out the door -- there is very little downside. I think I know which way I would go.
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All good points Duane. I've been aware of a couple articles, nothing recent....but then again, not much has changed. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing what they have, but also looking forward to what the competition is releasing in pocket 9 department. I know you go out of your way to keep us informed on what you are able to, and I certainly appreciate it.
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Hey, what is that new version of the R9 on the company website. It's called the "coyote" and it's got some new coating that is supposedly superior to anything (including the NP3 on my ROBAR version) out there. The weapon appears to be light brown or tan, with upper and lower treated.
The brown color is not as nice as the grey color my robar sports.
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Hey, what is that new version of the R9 on the company website. It's called the "coyote" and it's got some new coating that is supposedly superior to anything (including the NP3 on my ROBAR version) out there. The weapon appears to be light brown or tan, with upper and lower treated.
The brown color is not as nice as the grey color my robar sports.
Looks like the cats out of the bag a week early.....
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(http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/images/product-gun-r9coyote.png)
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At least it looks like it comes with better grip screws.....
I noticed that too. I think they probably came with the VZ grips. I can't imagine this will be a big seller, may make it collectible someday though, who knows.
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Looks like the cats out of the bag a week early.....
I don't think so.(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/Cheesy_grin.png)
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I really hope this is a new edition and they still have a new model to unveil at SHOT next week. I'm not knocking the new Coyote, it's just not my style.
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Stay tuned! :)
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If they say it won't be released until SHOT it won't be released until then. :D
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Less than a week, give or take a day or so! ;D
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Not a bad looking pup with the Cerakote finish. They must have never heard the term, "Coyote Ugly" in New York.
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Is Cerakote a better finish than Poly-T2 or NP3+ ???
I always thought Poly-T2 did better in the corrosion test
(http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5323.0;attach=80)
(http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5323.0;attach=82)
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I'm not a fan of Tan or Brown guns and this pup is no exception. My son in law just got a Sig Scorpion Carry and it's tan Cerakote , nice shooting gun but I don't care for the color.
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What the hell's it made of, walnut? Looks too gimmicky for me. Gene
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I like traditional gun finishes. However there is a LARGE market for tactical/military colored guns especially with young shooters in our area.
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I like traditional gun finishes. However there is a LARGE market for tactical/military colored guns especially with young shooters in our area.
Yep and theres a lot of call for a $7 Starbucks Cinnamon Dolce Crème Frappuccino with carmel and sprinkles topped with whip cream and a cherry, just not by me.
Traditional for me as well.
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Traditional for me, as well! :)
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Me too in most cases, but I've found myself wanting a Springfield XD with OD green frame and stainless slide lately.
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I do like the green. Have a Glock .357 Sig compact. It's a keeper; course, that's not unusual. :)
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The Coyote could rise to the top of the collectible list. Get 'em while they're hot.
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Not a bad idea! In fact, a good one. :)
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The Coyote could rise to the top of the collectible list. Get 'em while they're hot.
I'll PASS
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I'm going to pass too, however, it's probably is a good idea. I always, nearly, miss the boat. ;D
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Edsels are quite valuable now. A lot of folks passed on them, too.
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I wondered who would bring that up. That is a PERFECT example of making a time promise that didn't happen, and why they won't do it again.
Would they have been better off just keeping their mouths shut instead of releasing inside information to this forum? YES. Lesson learned.
So that is exactly why you won't hear about new products anymore until they are ready to go. If you commit to a date and miss it -- you are deemed by some to be a bad manufaucturer who can't meet its commitments, and has no respect for its customers. On the other hand, if you wait to announce a new product until it's ready to go out the door -- there is very little downside. I think I know which way I would go.
Well said, DD!
The Brothers Rohrbaugh have staked their time (lives) and fortunes on the belief that they could design and market the finest pocket pistols yet offered while we still enjoy our rights under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. The record to date would indicate that they have succeeded.
After years of planning and work, they unveiled the R9 prototype at SHOT 2002.
I and a number of others immediately got in line.
In May 2004, I took delivery of R9 No. 132.
That pistol has been my 24/7 EDC since that time.
I have enormous admiration for those who will dedicate their time (lives) and fortunes on a concept and the effort to bring that concept to market. I believe that is one description of capitalism.
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Richard...thanks!...nice hearing that for these several (10) years, you too are convinced of the R9. Sure is reassuring....
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Edsels are quite valuable now. A lot of folks passed on them, too.
I would pass on the Edsel now. ;D All those classic cars are nice to look at and Reminisce about the old days but the cheapest most basic car today rides and drives ten times better than they did.
I had more than my share of cars that would be quite valuable today. 64 Corvair Monza Spyder, 57 Chevy Bel air , 67 SS 396 Impala, 68 SS 350 Camaro, 70 Chevelle Convertible, 70 340 Dodge Dart Swinger, 70 340 Cuda Convertible.
They were all nice at the time and provide some great memories now but I don't regret not keeping any of them.
And I'll still pass on the Brown R9 and probably not live to regret it.
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I like the way the Rohrbaughs do things in regards to product releases.
Ruger hyped their 1911, even sent reps around to big gun stores to do demos, and then for the longest time no one could actually get one.
Kel-Tec introduced their KSG at SHOT show 2011, and they said it would be out in the fall of 2011. Fall has come and gone and there is no sign of the KSGs. I guess we get to see them again at SHOT show 2012..
Taurus put their CT G2 Carbines in their 2011 catalog and I don't think anyone has seen one at a gun strore yet...
I know delays happen, I've been part of big projects that have run into unexpected delays. But you do control your own press releases and what dates you put out to the public and it doesn't make sense to start the marketing and then not be able to deliver.
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As a writer, all of this is frustrating to me too.
Kel-Tec's KSG is an example. I don' t think it was ready to go last year. But, KT also has a problem with their supply chain. You still can't get PMR-30s with any regularity either...or some of their carbines. They make good stuff -- I hope they take a year off and just try to catch up on what they have in the works.
Taurus may be the worst. You hear about things often a year before they are available. And sometimes, they never become available and just fade out of existance...like vaporware.
Ruger, on the other hand -- is pretty good. When they show something at SHOT, they are usually filling supply channels immediately thereafter.
It's all part of your corporate culture, I guess. Sometimes making a big splash with a new product bites you if you can't then deliver. Especially when you show detailed high-res photos of something with all the specs... It creates expectations that the gun is ready to go.
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Ruger probably learned their lesson. I remember back in the 80's they announced their centerfire auto-loading pistol line and it took ywo years for those to hit the market. Pretty uneventful when they did in my opinion.
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Very good, when a lesson is learned. :)
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I just found out about the coyote R9 via an email from a forum member. I have mixed feelings about the new R9. There are people on this forum whose opinions I respect who have shown favor and disfavor toward the new gun. I think collectibility is certainly germane for the tan R9 but I mourn the fact that this energy could have gone toward the R45;(presuming that is so. Not sure).
Also, I think there is good dialog regarding the timing of info release on this string. It really upsets me when I see a gun I like and find out that it is not available or is allocated.
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I think that a product shouldn't be announced until its ready to be put on the shelves of retailers in sufficient quantities, over hyping and not being able to deliver can actually backfire and cost the company sales.
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As a writer, all of this is frustrating to me too.
Kel-Tec's KSG is an example. I don' t think it was ready to go last year. But, KT also has a problem with their supply chain. You still can't get PMR-30s with any regularity either...or some of their carbines. They make good stuff -- I hope they take a year off and just try to catch up on what they have in the works.
Taurus may be the worst. You hear about things often a year before they are available. And sometimes, they never become available and just fade out of existance...like vaporware.
Ruger, on the other hand -- is pretty good. When they show something at SHOT, they are usually filling supply channels immediately thereafter.
It's all part of your corporate culture, I guess. Sometimes making a big splash with a new product bites you if you can't then deliver. Especially when you show detailed high-res photos of something with all the specs... It creates expectations that the gun is ready to go.
I think Ruger learned their lesson in the early eighties when they were introducing the model 1982, or something like that, it took a couple or few years before it actually hit the market.
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Is Cerakote a better finish than Poly-T2 or NP3+ ???
I always thought Poly-T2 did better in the corrosion test
Is the "robar" version coated with NP-3 or NP-3 plus? Lots of people here sending their stock R9's to be coated with NP-3. Is that aftermarket NP-3 plus?
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If the Coyote is indeed the "new model," I'm a bit disappointed. Thought there was really something innovative coming out...a real change, not just a new finish. We'll see I supposed.
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Stay tuned; not much longer. :)
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Patience.....I'm trying..... :)
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I understand. It is tough waiting. :)
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Hey guys, poor internet access at the hotel in Vegas... Go figure. Maybe they want us in the casino instead?
Anyway, I got a call from Karl saying that the color shown on the Coyote R-9 on the Rohrbaugh website is all wrong. Its not an accurate reprsentation of the color. I should have better pics soon!
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If it's still brown then don't bother. The only time I want to see Browning on a pistol is when it's the name of our Patron Saint JMB. Gene
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its the new finish color shown on the Rohrbaugh Firearms web site...tan Tom
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Very Interesting. Check out Duane's Facebook page.
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No explanations, but from photos I see a new model, the real Coyote color, what looks to be an R9 slide with real sights and an R9 with contoured (like VZs) blue CF grips!!! I'm going to be sooooo broke soon...
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Sorry for the lack of explanations on FB. More details here on the forum.
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There is an article with pictures in the Shot Show newsletter I got this morniing from Gunsamerica.com.
[url]http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/rohrbaugh-firearms-at-shot-2012//url]
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My wife and I enjoyed seeing and handling the new tan and black Cerekote finish R9 at this year's SHOT. Maria, Eric--and all--thanks for your hospitality. And the R9 (I'll call it the "tribute edition" to the earliest model) with the blue-ish grips was great, too! Choices, choices.... :-)
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GunsAmerica link doesn't work for me...
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/rohrbaugh-firearms-at-shot-2012/ (http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/rohrbaugh-firearms-at-shot-2012/)
Well ^ that works :)
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Anyone know when these will go on sale? I guess I'm in the minority but I absolutely love the Coyote color on the R9 and the grips look amazing with the whole setup....Price point also?
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Anyone know when these will go on sale? I guess I'm in the minority but I absolutely love the Coyote color on the R9 and the grips look amazing with the whole setup....Price point also?
Don't know when they will go on sale, but the price, I think, will be $1795 and welcome to the Forum. :)
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tmobileguy, Welcome to the group.
Different strokes for different folks, if you like it thats good because someone needs to buy them and it won't be me. ;D
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Anyone know when these will go on sale? I guess I'm in the minority but I absolutely love the Coyote color on the R9 and the grips look amazing with the whole setup....Price point also?
While I don't think I will be adding one to the kennel I have to admit that the pictures from the SHOT show look 100x better than the initial picture they put on their webpage and now I can see why some would like this color combo.
Website Pic:
(http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/images/product-gun-r9coyote.png)
Shot Show Pic:
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Still doesn't do it for me. :(
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I'm going to reserve judgement on this one. I remember how I first felt about a Glock! :)
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I think I would need to see one in person before I purchased one.
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I think the pics from the shot show are muchhh nicer then the website pic...I will definitely be getting one when they release them....
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Tmobileguy
I do like the gun more after seeing the Shot Show pictures. I still would like to we one in person prior to buying it. If you are interested in one, you can call Maria @ Rohrbaugh to see when they are available.
I also would like to see some pictures on one of a fellow forum member purchases one.
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There is an article with pictures in the Shot Show newsletter I got this morniing from Gunsamerica.com.
[url]http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/rohrbaugh-firearms-at-shot-2012//url]
I read the article, and being away from this forum for a few months, i didnt know they moved the operation to Brooklyn. Where is it located, and can we get a look at the manufacturing process there?
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Joe,
I had the privilege of touring the old factory, but haven't been to the new location yet. They don't offer tours to the general public. They are actually subject to some state and federal laws in that respect. Most gun companies have ended public access.
S&W still does public factory tours -- although there are places that are off limits. As a member of the media, I have been able to visit the Sig factory and the Colt factory -- but not without jumping through a lot of hoops. Security was VERY tight at the Colt Defense side of Colt because of government requirements. There were many things I could not photograph, and a few things I could not even see.
But back to your point -- there really aren't any public tours of the factory. I suppose there are some exceptions, but not too many.
If you are ever in Massachusetts and have a chance to sign up for the S&W Tour -- you should do it. The S&W tour was the best mix of history, technology and generally cool stuff to see.
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You cant help but wonder, since Bloomberg is the most anti-gun politician in the country, and would love to see the entire public population disarmed, why would a gun manufacturer locate operations there, thereby supporting such an administration through taxes?
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I don't wonder about it at all.
John
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I just read this morning that Bloomberg and the Boston Mayor are going to run one of there anti gun, gun control ads during the Super Bowl. :(
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The factory is still in Deer Park, not Brooklyn. The writer from Gunsamerica doesn't know Brooklyn from Bayport much less Deer Park.
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The factory is still in Deer Park, not Brooklyn. The writer from Gunsamerica doesn't know Brooklyn from Bayport much less Deer Park.
What Tracker said.