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Title: R45
Post by: Aglifter on November 30, 2006, 01:05:57 AM

I think a scaled up form of the pup in 45 would be wonderful -- not as a pocket gun, but as a primary -- I'd really love that trigger, and try to lighten the gun as much as possible, while still controllable.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: theirishguard on November 30, 2006, 02:21:26 PM

I'm on board with that, simple and nice with a big hole. Tom

Title: Re: R45
Post by: tracker on November 30, 2006, 05:03:44 PM

Me too; there ain't no jive with a .45.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: bigyimmy on November 30, 2006, 09:11:58 PM

~A local E.R. Doctor once said:
“The bangers that are shot up with a 9mm are what I normally treat for gun shot wounds.  The ones shot with a 45 usually go down to the basement (morgue) and I don't see them.”

Title: Re: R45
Post by: tracker on November 30, 2006, 09:51:58 PM

There you go.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Aglifter on December 04, 2006, 10:29:08 PM

think I'll let Duane suggest that one at the SHOT show...they probably don't want to hear someone suggest even more work...besides, I'm already going to have to talk some mag springs out of them...

Title: Re: R45
Post by: flyandscuba on January 12, 2007, 11:49:41 PM

It appears that an R45 is in the works!

I spent the last two days at the ShowShow -- had a chance to visit the Rohrbaugh booth a couple of times and finally meet the brothers face-to-face.

Tonight, I was thumbing through "Official Shot Show Directory and Buyer's Guide 2007"....

Under Rohrbaugh Firearms Corporation, I quote the following -- right out of the directory:

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All Rohrbaugh R9 9mm pistols are precision CNC machined from solid billets of 17-4PH stainless for the slide and smaller internal parts, 7075-T651 aluminum for the frame and 416 stainless for the barrels.  Parts are then hand fit for a superior self-defense weapon where size, weight and deep concealment are of consideration. Other calibers to be available in the future include: .380 and .45

So, Aglifter -- ask and you may receive.... ;D

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Aglifter on January 13, 2007, 12:01:45 AM

WHOOP!  Have to call the Brothers R on Tuesday... See how I can get on a list

Title: Re: R45
Post by: GRUMPY357 on January 13, 2007, 12:48:05 AM

I too want to be on that list also.
 :D


            grumpy357

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Richard S on January 18, 2007, 04:34:57 PM

Fly:

Thank you, Sir, for that information!   8)

Title: Re: R45
Post by: jaycee on January 18, 2007, 10:46:21 PM

Yes Sir, the new R45 will be presented by the Rohrbaugh Bros. at the next Shot Show.This information was given to me by Karl Rohrbaugh ,two days ago. My order has aleady been placed.  New and improved magazine followers will shortly be forthcoming/produced for the R9. :)

Title: Re: R45
Post by: riffraff on January 19, 2007, 06:54:43 PM

jaycee,

Ok more mods so I will wait to place my order for parts.

Please let us know when the new R9 mag followers are available and shipping.  I and others would appreciate it.

Thank You,  Mike

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Brenden on January 20, 2007, 07:31:38 PM

R45,
On the same size frame? Wow...

I would think a larger frame would be needed for sure.. ;)

It is good that the Bros R,are looking at different platforms for the future!!

Will await more info!! ;D

Brenden

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Aglifter on February 11, 2007, 09:22:58 PM

I was told it will be on a 25% larger frame.  As long as they're designing a new gun, I wish they'd look at

http://www.tusseycustom.com/articlekimbercompacts.htm

Tussey designed a really nice snagless sight -- it's an XS big dot sight sunk down in a groove on the slide of a 1911.  Seems like a pretty interesting idea...

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Big_Kahuna on February 13, 2007, 11:02:12 AM

Thanks Aglifter, very cool idea. I think this would be an obvious way to keep the covert .45 size and weight down.

Also jaycee mentioned his order was already placed. Any idea jaycee of the details at this point, such as dimensions, weight, cost?

Very intersted as I have always carried a .45 as my primary.

Thanks~Ferg

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Fud on February 13, 2007, 04:43:11 PM

The gutter sights that NAA uses (http://www.naaminis.com/pix/gutsightrear.jpg) are really a good idea. Wonder if Rohrbaugh could do that or if there would be some copyright problems.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Fud on February 14, 2007, 08:55:36 PM

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I was told it will be on a 25% larger frame.

That would make it about the same size as the Para Carry ...

(http://fud-files.netfirms.com/image/private/guns/f130.jpg)

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Reinz on February 15, 2007, 02:44:50 PM

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The gutter sights that NAA uses (http://www.naaminis.com/pix/gutsightrear.jpg) are really a good idea. Wonder if Rohrbaugh could do that or if there would be some copyright problems.

I don't think gutter sights would pose any problem since they have been around for decades.  And gunsmiths have been modifing them just as long.

Reinz  

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Reinz on February 15, 2007, 02:54:34 PM

Fudster - Thanks for posting the comparison picture of the R9 and the Para Carry.

How do you like the Para Carry?

Looking at the comparison, I'm trying to see what the advantage of the Rohrbaugh would be - assuming that would be the size difference.
I hear the trigger pull of the LDAs are awesome;  so that would be hard to beat.

The only thing I can think of right off the bat is maybe weight and thinner.  Which of course would be a great welcome.
And maybe the Bro's can work their recoil magic like they did on the R9.

Anyone think of anything else?


Reinz

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Fud on February 15, 2007, 06:14:24 PM

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I don't think gutter sights would pose any problem since they have been around for decades.  And gunsmiths have been modifing them just as long.

Reinz  

If that is the case, then I think that Rohrbaugh should give serious consideration to making them standard on their guns.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Richard S on February 15, 2007, 06:37:31 PM

R45 -- All I know is that I've got to have one!    (Get ready, RJ -- I want to be among the first in line for a monogrammed BP holster and matching mag pouch.)  8)

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Fud on February 15, 2007, 07:37:15 PM

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Fudster - Thanks for posting the comparison picture of the R9 and the Para Carry.

How do you like the Para Carry?

Looking at the comparison, I'm trying to see what the advantage of the Rohrbaugh would be - assuming that would be the size difference.
I hear the trigger pull of the LDAs are awesome;  so that would be hard to beat.

The only thing I can think of right off the bat is maybe weight and thinner.  Which of course would be a great welcome.
And maybe the Bro's can work their recoil magic like they did on the R9.

Anyone think of anything else?


Reinz

My Para Carry was a big disappointment. Even after a trip to the factory, it will only feed FMJ ammo. Anything else will not even chamber by itself. I would have to rack the slide by hand and sort of jiggle it during the racking in order to chamber any other ammo that was not FMJ.

If the R45 is more reliable with different types of ammo, it will be something worth considering.

Personally, I would like to see a more beef'ed up version of the R9 that didn't require as much care as the current model and that could handle +P ammo.  Maybe something looks like a PPK on the outside but is built like a R9 on the inside ...

(http://fud-files.netfirms.com/image/private/guns/f144.jpg)

Title: Re: R45
Post by: theirishguard on February 16, 2007, 10:51:43 AM

One of the nice things about the R9s is the trigger pull, The R45 should be the same. The PPK has a bad trigger pull, without the ability to do much about it. Do you think it is an OAL problem?  Tom

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Fud on February 16, 2007, 08:36:33 PM

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I was saying build a beef'ed up version of the R9 to SORT OF resemble the PPK. Keep the R9 trigger and concealed hammer but make it all steel with a manual safety & decocker and a push button magazine release. Sort of what the Colt Pocket Nine was ...

(http://fud-files.netfirms.com/image/private/guns/f155.jpg)

... but closer in shape to the PPK and in functionality to the R9.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: theirishguard on February 17, 2007, 10:34:42 AM

Fudster, sorry about that, I replaced my PPK with my R9s. I think you are on the right track . Tom

Title: Re: R45
Post by: riffraff on February 17, 2007, 07:53:38 PM

Fudster,

I completly agree with you except for two of your suggestions.  Why a manual safety and decock lever.  The DAO trigger is all the safety any competent gun carrier needs.
I have always detested DAO triggers untill I tried the R9.  FINALLY a good DAO trigger.  Any DAO is not good for targets or even plinking fun but for a carry gun the R9 DAO trigger is perfect.

Mike

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Aglifter on February 18, 2007, 12:15:07 AM

Personally, the primary reason I want an R45 is the pup fits my hand (shape-wise, not size.) better than anything except my custom gripped revolvers, and the pup's not very far behind.  That, and the pup's fantastic trigger, and overall build quality.  Assuming they stick w. the pup, it should also be a much simpler (IMO = more reliable) design than something w. a manual safety, decockers, grip safety, etc.  It should certainly make it lighter, and more compact.  

And, hopefully, available w. carbon fiber grips...can't say I really like G-10.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Fud on February 18, 2007, 04:22:09 PM

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Fudster,

I completly agree with you except for two of your suggestions.  Why a manual safety and decock lever.  The DAO trigger is all the safety any competent gun carrier needs.
I have always detested DAO triggers untill I tried the R9.  FINALLY a good DAO trigger.  Any DAO is not good for targets or even plinking fun but for a carry gun the R9 DAO trigger is perfect.

Mike

I grew up on TDA/SA and that is my preference. But you are correct. The R9 has an excellent DAO trigger. I'd be happy with either version if they made one.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Reinz on February 19, 2007, 02:41:52 PM

Fudster -  I understand your disappointment with your Para.  Especially since they are on the pricey side.
Have you had a 45 mechanic look at your Para Carry?   Sounds like an easy fix for someone you trust.


Reinz

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Fud on February 21, 2007, 12:53:54 PM

A trip to the factory did not resolve the problem.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Reinz on February 21, 2007, 04:46:17 PM

Fudster - now I can really appreciate your frustration.   >:(

A lot of factories are just factories.  They can put stuff together, but  are not always  good at trouble shooting or fixing after the fact.  I'm sure I'm not telling you anything new, and of course this is true with many gun factories unfortunately.   Or it may just be that particular day or person who happened to have tried to fix your gun at the time.

That is why I used the word "mechanic", not gunsmith.  There is a difference.  You need someone who really knows 1911's inside and out.  Even though you have a LDA,  you do not have a trigger problem, but a feeding problem.  So a good mechanic can fix it.  That is if the feeding ramp has not been screwed up already or such.

Ask around in your area for a good one. If you are not satisfied, go for a nationally known big name.  You may have a long wait, but it seems that you are not short of guns.

MIke Bay in Tulsa is tops,  Jim Clark - Louisiana, Wilson Combat, AK, Tim Lafrance- CA.
Look in American Handgunner and in the back many are listed that are in the top 100 .

Bottom line - that gun should shoot anything!  Don't settle for less.


Reinz

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Richard S on February 21, 2007, 05:23:03 PM

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. . . Jim Clark - Louisiana . . . .

Jim Clark and Clark Custom Guns get my vote!

http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/

Here's some magic they performed on one of my 1911s:

Before:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/Colt1991A1BeforeCustomizing.jpg)

After:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/Colt-1.jpg)

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Reinz on February 22, 2007, 01:59:22 PM

I would also like to add that the examples I used were just off the top of my head at the moment.
There are easily at least a dozen other well knowns that can be added to the list.  And as Richard has done, hopefully other forum members will agree and/or add to the list.

Good Luck

Reinz

Title: Re: R45
Post by: ccoorreeyy on February 07, 2008, 08:54:30 PM

Even if it as a R45gap it would be fine by me!  I think any gun with the Rohrbaugh name would be awsome.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Aglifter on July 08, 2008, 01:43:00 AM

Where O where is my R45,
Where O where could it be,
I put my deposit down long ago,
and been waiting so patiently...

Title: Re: R45
Post by: theirishguard on July 08, 2008, 10:05:09 AM

I talked with Maria yesterday. They are still getting out the door R9s and the R380 is just around the corner. When the R380 is shipping Karl will continue to work on the R45.  Tom

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Aglifter on July 08, 2008, 09:39:29 PM

It's fine, I knew it would take time -- I'm just being tempted by a Kahr PM45 as a light weight 45 to carry until the pup's big bro shows up...   ;D

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Nra-Life-Member on September 10, 2009, 01:07:09 AM

Anybody know if the R45 will happen??

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Richard S on September 10, 2009, 08:29:45 PM

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Anybody know if the R45 will happen??

It may take some time, but I would "bet the farm on it."   8)

Title: Re: R45
Post by: tracker on September 10, 2009, 10:13:08 PM

Does that include the creek with riparian rights?

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Richard S on September 11, 2009, 10:14:05 AM

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Does that include the creek with riparian rights?

Ducks, trout, rocks and all. (However, I can't speak for the racoon, black bear, and wild pig populations -- they pretty much come and go as they please.)   ;)

Title: Re: R45
Post by: Chief-USN on September 21, 2009, 03:36:36 PM

 Maria told me Karl is working on it still.

Title: Re: R45
Post by: kjtrains on September 21, 2009, 10:48:48 PM

We're keeping the hope!