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Title: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Dire_Straits on May 29, 2011, 09:41:11 AM: I've just recently purchased an R9 from another forum member; payment is enroute and I haven't obtained the pistol yet. This will be my first R9 and I've been doing alot of reading/research.

Anyhow, some of my reading has lead me to ask this one simple question.

What is your R9's round count? How many rounds have you put down range?
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Post by: yankee2500 on May 29, 2011, 11:22:06 AM: About four and a half recoil spring changes. ;D (900 + or -)
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Post by: Richard S on May 29, 2011, 01:29:47 PM: Quote
About four and a half recoil spring changes. ;D (900 + or -)

That sounds about right for me. ;D
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Post by: Big_John_1961 on May 29, 2011, 04:31:54 PM: Wow, that's a lot guys. Very cool, and a testament to how well the pistols are designed and built to handle a high-pressure load like the 9mm.
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Post by: Reinz on May 29, 2011, 09:57:06 PM: Sorry, I've never felt comfortable giving an answer to that question.

It's kind of like asking the mileage on a car with no odometer.

To me and my personal guns, it just doesn't matter.

I shoot 'em and I keep 'em :D

So basically, heck I don't know.

That was the long way around the barn. ;D
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Post by: tracker on May 29, 2011, 10:05:22 PM: I agree, Reinz; it doesn't matter but I would guess at ~400 rounds in seven years: carry a lot, etc., etc..
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Post by: yankee2500 on May 29, 2011, 10:12:41 PM: Quote
Sorry, I've never felt comfortable giving an answer to that question.

It's kind of like asking the mileage on a car with no odometer.

To me and my personal guns, it just doesn't matter.

I shoot 'em and I keep 'em :D

So basically, heck I don't know.

That was the long way around the barn. ;D

I try to keep some sort of record on the pup because I don't want to carry it with a recoil spring that is way past it's time. I don't really keep track on anything else.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on May 29, 2011, 10:22:18 PM: I don't keep a record on anything either and really don't have an idea how many rds have been fired; probably should, but so far, no problems.
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Post by: Alphonso on May 30, 2011, 11:23:28 AM: About 100 in approximatly 4 years...
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Post by: gbelleh on May 30, 2011, 03:51:05 PM: I have around 150 through mine, but I've only had it for a couple months. I don't really plan to put more than 100 rounds a year through it, probably less.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Dire_Straits on May 31, 2011, 06:46:56 PM: Quote
About four and a half recoil spring changes. ;D (900 + or -)

That's exactly what I was looking for. A testimonial for the R9's durability.

Thank you.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: tracker on May 31, 2011, 06:56:07 PM: There are R9 owners with 4000-5000 rds. down range. Durability has not been an issue.
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Post by: Reinz on May 31, 2011, 07:21:52 PM: I know it can be hard to tell sometimes ones tone when reading just words in a forum.
I mean no arrogance whatsoever, but being around guns all my life and owning over three hundred and shooting them all; for me, durability was never an issue.
Just holding the R9, working the action, coon fingering, eveballing all the attention to details. You just know you have a fine tuned piece of machinery here.
No, you can't abuse it like a Ruger revolver. But if you treat it with the respect that you would treat a Viper or Ferrari, it should last a lifetime.

You gotta love it!
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: tracker on May 31, 2011, 07:30:47 PM: I was raised in deepest East Texas and never heard of "coon fingering."
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on May 31, 2011, 07:40:38 PM: ya gotta be kidding me man!

ya ever watched a coon at stream ?

they just roll an item over and over and over in their paws and wash it also.

If no stream, they still paw it, roll it over and over and their head may not even be looking at the darn thing. They may be looking up in the sky. But that item is still rolling over and over in their paws.

it's called coon fingering

It' can really be funny to watch.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: tracker on May 31, 2011, 07:48:46 PM: Thanks for the description. I'll ask my cousin Larry about that. He lives northeast of Caddo Lake and was a first class champion Coon hunter in his day. His dogs would tree the Coon and he chopped down the pine tree with a double edged axe to start the chase all over again.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on May 31, 2011, 07:53:48 PM: Man that's hardcore!

I would think that he would know. But then again, he and his dogs may not take the time to watch a coon if they are too busy chasing them. ;D
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Post by: tracker on May 31, 2011, 07:58:52 PM: My grandfather was a fox hunter and won many blue ribbons in that sport. He had about 50 fox hounds on his place.
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Post by: Richard S on May 31, 2011, 08:33:13 PM: Pardon my continued drift of this thread, but did someone mention racoons? Hell, I'll rent racoons at very reasonable rates and throw in shipping for free. ;)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/theusualsuspectatcrittercreek-1.jpg)
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: tracker on May 31, 2011, 08:48:05 PM: This thread drift is credible: Racoons and Rohrbaughs are both durable critters.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on May 31, 2011, 10:51:42 PM: My Dad was an avid coon hunter. He'd rather do that than......well, a lot of things; start out at dark come out of the woods just before or right after day break. Man, did he love to hunt.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: moonsky on June 01, 2011, 12:03:16 AM: I try to keep some sort of record on the pup because I don't want to carry it with a recoil spring that is way past it's time. I don't really keep track on anything else.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on June 01, 2011, 01:13:50 PM: Welcome to the forum moonsky!
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on June 01, 2011, 01:42:33 PM: Quote from: moonsky otlink=board=R9S;num=1306672871;start=15#21 date=05/31/11 at 23:03:16
I try to keep some sort of record on the pup because I don't want to carry it with a recoil spring that is way past it's time. I don't really keep track on anything else.

moonsky. Are you for real? That post was made by yankee2500 and your other posts are made by other Forum members. Just wondering what you're up to?
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: tracker on June 01, 2011, 01:53:15 PM: Post plagiarism is a new one on me.
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Post by: kjtrains on June 01, 2011, 01:55:18 PM: Me, too! Except this is about the 3rd person doing this lately! Or at least the 3rd user name.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on June 02, 2011, 04:05:41 PM: Sorry I did not catch that before I welcomed him.

But since you ratted him out KJ, I think he split.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on June 02, 2011, 04:15:43 PM: Probably just a flash in the pan! :)
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: eye_spy on June 05, 2011, 10:08:12 PM: probably just shy of 1k. It shows very minimal wear and is tight as a a bulls....

It will last a life time, all you need to do is take care of it.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: yankee2500 on June 05, 2011, 10:24:55 PM: Quote
This thread drift is credible: Racoons and Rohrbaughs are both durable critters.

I think it's OK because both start with an R. ;D

As for moonsky maybe just a couple of fries short of a Happy Meal. ;D ;D
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Tim B on June 11, 2011, 12:18:57 PM: I have exactly 213 rounds through my Stealth. I fired the first 200 within a month of receiving the pistol, just because I felt I needed to shoot it about that much to familiarize myself with it and to "bond" with it. I also stopped at that point because it was time for a recoil spring change and I wanted to carry with a fresh spring.

A couple of months ago I took it out and fired the 7 rounds in the pistol and the other six in the spare mag I carry. Everything worked perfectly. Once I got home I gave my R9 a good cleaning and a fresh lube and put it back on duty.

Like John, I keep a record of rounds fired in my Rohrbaugh for the sole purpose of recoil spring management. I have plenty of other guns to shoot, but in my opinion life is way too short to be so meticulous as to keep round counts on them.

Since retiring last month I find myself carrying the Rohrbaugh more and more. It has replaced the J-frame as the gun I carry when I really don't feel like carrying. I trust my R9 and look forward to getting another as soon as I am able to. I Never have ONE of anything... my wife says it's a sickness :-)

-Tim
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Richard S on June 11, 2011, 02:29:56 PM: Quote
I have exactly 213 rounds through my Stealth. I fired the first 200 within a month of receiving the pistol, just because I felt I needed to shoot it about that much to familiarize myself with it and to "bond" with it. I also stopped at that point because it was time for a recoil spring change and I wanted to carry with a fresh spring.

A couple of months ago I took it out and fired the 7 rounds in the pistol and the other six in the spare mag I carry. Everything worked perfectly. Once I got home I gave my R9 a good cleaning and a fresh lube and put it back on duty.

Like John, I keep a record of rounds fired in my Rohrbaugh for the sole purpose of recoil spring management. I have plenty of other guns to shoot, but in my opinion life is way too short to be so meticulous as to keep round counts on them.

Since retiring last month I find myself carrying the Rohrbaugh more and more. It has replaced the J-frame as the gun I carry when I really don't feel like carrying. I trust my R9 and look forward to getting another as soon as I am able to. I Never have ONE of anything... my wife says it's a sickness :-)

-Tim

Thanks for the good report, Tim. And as for that so-called "sickness" of never having just ONE of anything, there's nothing wrong with it at all -- as long as it doesn't include wifes. ;)

_____

Edit: The whole subject made me so edgy that I misspelled the operative word -- so . . . strike the word "wifes" and substitute in lieu thereof the word "wives." ::)
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Tim B on June 11, 2011, 02:35:47 PM: Quote

Thanks for the good report, Tim. And as for that so-called "sickness" of never having just ONE of anything, there's nothing wrong with it at all -- as long as it doesn't include wifes. ;)

Richard,

I was going to say something witty about my wife and my ex-wife both agreeing with you on that, but I decided against it :-)

-Tim
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on June 11, 2011, 02:38:54 PM: Great report Tim. Thanks. Having two or more Rohrbaughs is a good thing. My wife doesn't understand that either! ;D
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Richard S on June 11, 2011, 02:41:21 PM: Quote

Richard,

I was going to say something witty about my wife and my ex-wife both agreeing with you on that, but I decided against it :-)

-Tim

Tim:

In such matters, discretion is inevitably the better part of valor. 8)
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Robar233 on June 12, 2011, 08:42:52 AM: 85 rounds without a single problem in my Robar edition. This was on one cleaning on two different range dates. Today is cleaning day with David's new take down tool.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: yankee2500 on June 12, 2011, 10:11:37 AM: Tim welcome to the group and post often.
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Post by: theirishguard on June 12, 2011, 01:42:46 PM: I have 2 customers that told me they fired over 5000 rds thru their R9s. This was some time ago. Neither reported any problems. Tom
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Relic on June 13, 2011, 12:10:25 PM: Today is day three since I brough my little Pup home, 170 rounds so far, two cleanings and inspections and still shooting on the first recoil spring with no failures.

I've noted significant wear at the rear of the frame, which completely removed the finish at the rear end of the guide rails, but other's reported this to be self-limiting and I would suspect this is the case. The R9 is a tight little design and some break-in wear is to be expected.

I have nothing remarkable to report, the R9 performs like any other pistol, no bad habits, no difficulties, just press the trigger and she barks on command. I honestly expected some teething issues, as a design this small was bound to have some compromises. That assumption seems to be proved wrong.

So, now I've had two days at the range and several boxes of ammo to adjust my "love at first bang" opinion. Here's the adjustment: The PM9, LCP and P3AT are in the safe, the Pup is in my pocket, and that's the way it's gonna be.
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Post by: kjtrains on June 13, 2011, 01:36:55 PM: Great results, Relic. The wear you noticed is normal, and should not be worrisome. This will subside and as you have stated others have reported. Continue to enjoy the great small wonder.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Relic on June 22, 2011, 11:56:30 PM: 240 rounds on the original recoil spring. The spring is 3/16" shorter thaqn a new spring, but still feels as stiff as the new one.

No failures, no issues.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on June 23, 2011, 12:03:17 AM: I'm thinking if you keep shooting with the old spring, it's going to beat itself up and finally do some damage; just my thoughts. :)
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on June 23, 2011, 12:26:44 AM: Length and stiffness do not always correlate into the same thing.
You would be surprised how much your spring "shrinks" just after 50 rounds or so.

With Relic's experience, I thinks he will actually feel the gun getting pounded as the spring gives way. Not that I would reccomend going that far. Nor would I reccomend pocketing the piece as is at 240 rounds for EDC. But for goofing around, curiousity, testing - WTH.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on June 23, 2011, 12:29:26 AM: I do agree. With the small price of these springs, I sure wouldn't risk damage.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on June 23, 2011, 12:41:15 AM: Understood.

Especially considering we are talking about an aluminum frame gun here.

But out of curiostity- is it ThaT hard on the gun; to keep the sping in it until consistant malfunctions present themselves ?

Might not be a bad one time test, just to get to know the gun a little bit more in depth.

Getting knocked out in a boxing ring by a pro once may be rough. But you sure wouldn't want to do it repeatedly.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on June 23, 2011, 12:46:32 AM: I'm thinking as the spring gets smaller, you're not going to know the point at which damage is occurring; then woo la; too late.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on June 23, 2011, 01:07:22 AM: You mean, too small. Remember you still have the stiffness factor.

Also the somewhat "safety factor" of the dual captive springs.

I said - "somewhat".
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on June 23, 2011, 01:11:40 AM: I'm just going to change at 200 rds everytime and not worry about it; others can do what they might. Seems the way to go, at least for me; wait a minute. I don't count the rounds; just guestamate; works so far.
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Post by: Reinz on June 23, 2011, 01:19:20 AM: I agree with you.

I was also going along with Relic/P7 ;D , as far as a "test" was concerned.
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Post by: kjtrains on June 23, 2011, 01:24:23 AM: Yep. Good thing to do. Thanks! ;D
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Post by: Relic on June 23, 2011, 01:48:02 AM: KJ, I think that's prudent and sound thinking.
Don't let anyone tell you different.

I've shot many firearms, including many antiques and war relics. Some of these firearms have had untold #'s of rounds and the springs are older than I am. I have a methodical, careful method to my madness. I always strip and inspect before shooting. If something looks or feels wrong, I won't shoot it.

But, since you've got me thinking about it, I'll dig out my old home-made spring test rig and measure the old spring against the new one. I just used it to test a WWII Walther PPK .32 recoil spring not too long ago. Owner didn't want to replace any parts unless absolutely required. Great little gun, original flap holster and a field-expedient repair to the grip. Looks like it took some shrapnel or other sharp impact. It shot fine, by the way. He also had a war-trophy Walther M-9 .25 that was in beautiful condition. Crazy what some of those German officers carried. Even that .32 PPK is hardly a combat weapon, but a .25 seems like an odd choice for a pistol in a war zone. But I digress. (I will post some pictures if anyone has a hosting site)

Springs aren't hard to test, a digital scale and a simple rig will do. You're measuring spring pressure at a given deflection. (Say 20 pounds at 3/4" or similar) Most handgun springs deflect at fairly low weights so they are easy to work with.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: DTM_39 on June 27, 2011, 05:30:29 PM: I have approx 600 rounds through my pup and I have never had a hicup. However a friend of mine wanted to shoot my R-9 . He was interested in buying one. He couldn't get through a single mag without a ftf. This gun was not for him. He bought the Rohrbaugh 380 and he loves it. My R-9 continues to hum for me and everbody who has fired it since.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on June 28, 2011, 01:42:10 AM: Glad your friend did not give up on the Rohrbaugh brand.

At least he can handle the 380 and still have the precision- and reliability.

In the American Rifleman test of quite of few 380's, the R380 was the only one without any malfunctions.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: DTM_39 on June 28, 2011, 04:40:07 PM: I have an early R-9 and one of the first 380's. Both have been 100% for me. The 380 gets most of the playtime. But the R-9 gets its work in.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: backupr9 on July 05, 2011, 10:32:49 AM: Relic, I would be interested in your findings re: spring testing. Altho stiffness and length may not be correlated, it seems intuitively likely that a spring that has shortened will have also lost tension, at least over the distance that has been lost through shortening. Actual measurements of tension vs. length and of tension change correlated with length change would be interesting. The last few times I've shot, I've put about 60 to 80 rounds of silver tip and 124 Gold Dot, and noted 1/4 inch shortening at cleaning time....I carry this regularly, so for $5 I just go ahead and change the spring rather than take a chance. From my point of view, I worry about damage to the piece only inasmuch as the fact that the damage might cause a malfunction at a very inopportune time. When we go to the range, an occasional FFF doesn't seem too worrisome, but it could be life-threatening in the event of actual need.
Title: 340 rounds now
Post by: Relic on July 05, 2011, 02:53:22 PM: I haven't had time to find/reassemble my spring test rig, but I intend to do so ASAP. I've now put 340 rounds through the R9 with that same spring. (I carry it with a new spring and switch to the old one for range shooting) It's still behaving quite normally and the spring is still pretty stiff. I can't tell a difference by feel, but feel is only a cursory check, a deflection/weight measurement is the only acceptable test.

I did have one failure with a new shooter on round #337 (WWB 115gr).
A petite lady, I'd guess 5'2" and 110lb, who had never shot a pistol, really wanted to try, even after a friendly warning that the R9s recoil was a bit more stout than many other pistols.

After a bit of grip training, she fired 5 rounds with good control, but on her 6th and last round in the mag, the R9 flipped up in her hand. She said she had loosened her grip and claimed, "I think that was my fault". The round nose dived into the edge of the feed ramp, the R9s first FTF. Still, she did quite well placing 5 rounds on target and was very pleased.

The last 4 rounds left fired without issue, but we were out of practice ammo at that point.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: yankee2500 on July 05, 2011, 04:40:04 PM: It's not so much the failure of the gun when the spring gets past 200 rounds but the extra pounding on all the moving components that is an issue.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Richard S on July 05, 2011, 05:26:41 PM: Quote
It's not so much the failure of the gun when the spring gets past 200 rounds but the extra pounding on all the moving components that is an issue.

Well stated, John!

I've long owned and driven sports cars, purchasing the first one in 1956. Each one of them came equipped with a tachometer on which the highest revolutions were highlighted in red. The red was there for a reason. I know that because in 1973 I "red lined" my "rocket du jour" and blew the engine.

So it is with "pocket rockets."
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Relic on July 05, 2011, 07:02:04 PM: I have to disagree there my friends. While I do understand your thoughts on the matter and am respectful of your views.

Round count is a poor indicator of wear, it simply is an easy out. If the spring is in spec, the spring is in spec, and round count matter's not.

For example, if the minimum spring rating is 15lbs, with 5000 rounds of use if it's at 16lbs it's still not "redlined" (to use the tachometer reference) Measuring is the only way to determine if a part is within specifications. Be that a spring, bore, headspace, etc.

However, if you don't care to bother with finding the factory spring specs and measuring the springs, then the only option you have is to use round count, as poor a method as it is.

But I do agree that if the only method you use to determine spring wear is round count, then you need to err on the side of caution and use the factory recommended replacement schedule.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: tracker on July 05, 2011, 07:05:56 PM: I don't use round count either but just compare the old spring with a new one and use the old Mark I Mod 0 eyeball. Very unscientific but close enough for me at about one turn or so.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Richard S on July 05, 2011, 07:38:55 PM: I defer to the superior engineering wisdom of my two distinguished fellow Forum members. However, I suppose I shall carry to my grave the memory of blowing up a perfectly fine engine from British Leyland. :-/
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: tracker on July 05, 2011, 08:52:29 PM: Red lines are there for very good reasons. After a WestPac cruise I was on the #1 catapult waiting for a turn-up from the catapult office for the fly off to NAS North Island after six months at sea. After going to full power I noticed that the #2 engine RPM slightly exceeded the red line limit of 3000. Nonetheless, I saluted the Cat Officer, was launched, and shortly thereafter lost the #2 prop governor. The engine was barely manageable so I shut it down and elected to land back on the carrier on one engine; lesson learned.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on July 05, 2011, 09:21:18 PM: I salute all of your excellent views. When speaking of round counts or redlines, it's all about doing what you know supposed to be done; some methods may serve the same purpose, however, the end result is, be sure to use the method of your choice to accomplish what the recommended guide lines are.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: sslater on July 05, 2011, 10:12:38 PM: I'm with Yankee2500 on the weakened recoil spring = pounding the pup's innards. Changing the spring every 200 rounds or so is cheap insurance. At today's ammo prices, the spring costs around the equivalent of 3 rounds of premium carry stuff. My early R9s has 2,000+ rounds. I'm down to firing a couple of mags per month, and hope to continue doing it that way until the pup's an old dog. ;D

Years ago I bought a H&K USP in .40S&W. H&K was very reluctant to sell me a replacement recoil spring assy. (It is a double spring set-up similar to the Rohrbaugh.) The H&K factory rep told me to send the gun in if I ever felt the recoil spring was getting weak. I talked him into selling me a new recoil spring assembly with captive large spring. After three or four thousand rounds I could feel the slide hammering the frame as it cycled. Changed over to the new captive spring assembly. After another three thousand rounds, I could feel that slide hammering the frame again, but by that time, Wolff was making recoil springs for the USP. I switched back to the original loose-spring recoil assy., added the new Wolff recoil spring, and haven't had to change it again. Wolff makes good springs. I understand they are making springs for Rohrbaugh.
Lesson here is you have to listen to what the gun is telling you.

Incidentally, I bought a Ruger LC9 a few months ago, for those times when I don't want to put my R9s in messy situations. It works well, but it is 6" long, a big difference compared to the 5.2" Rohrbaugh. The LC9 has been 100% reliable from round one. Have about 500 rounds thru it. Called Ruger to get a couple spare springs, etc., and the service rep said there is no recommended interval for recoil spring change, but it should be well over 1,000 rounds. "If the gun begins to fail-to-extract or fails-to-feed, then the springs should be changed." I thought, "Great, wait until a concealed-carry gun screws up before performing maintenance. Here we go again!" He didn't give me any trouble about buying spare parts, though. The LC9 has a (cheap) plastic recoil rod and two loose concentric recoil springs, but they seem to do the job, as spring length has changed minimally since new. That extra 0.8 inch overall length difference compared to the R9 really is functionally significant. I recall speaking to Karl Rohrbaugh one day and he said they really tried to keep the R9 overall length under five inches, but just couldn't get a recoil spring to work properly. So, the 5.2" length was grudgingly arrived at.

Sorry for the long stream-of-consciousness message, but one gun thought lead to another and.....
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: TBI on July 05, 2011, 11:27:52 PM: Shoot it. Clean it. Shoot it. That's all you have to do.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on July 06, 2011, 03:59:10 PM: Quote
in 1973 I "red lined" my "rocket du jour" and blew the engine.
."

OUCH!
:-[

That will make a ya a believer in tachometers Real Fast!
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Dire_Straits on July 07, 2011, 11:45:47 AM: Quote
Wolff makes good springs. I understand they are making springs for Rohrbaugh.

Have you confirmed this with Wolff? I checked their website prior to ordering my springs from Rohrbaugh and again this morning after reading your post; Rohrbaugh isn't listed on their site.

Please confirm.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: sslater on July 07, 2011, 01:01:01 PM: I'm told Wolff is indeed Rohrbaugh's spring supplier, but they don't sell Rohrbaugh springs to the public. I guess Rohrbaugh wants control of the supply base since the R9 is sensitive to recoil spring condition. (In the OEM automotive business, we used to buy and own the tooling for some vendor-supplied parts. That way, if the vendor went bust or started to screw up quality-wise, our QC and purchasing people would pull the tools and contract with a back-up maker.)

That ain't all bad. Rohrbaugh's price is right, and every spring you buy has the Rohrbaugh name behind it. Eliminates finger-pointing in the event of a problem.

S.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Richard S on July 07, 2011, 03:09:25 PM: What Steve said.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Dire_Straits on July 07, 2011, 04:53:59 PM: Quote
I'm told Wolff is indeed Rohrbaugh's spring supplier, but they don't sell Rohrbaugh springs to the public. I guess Rohrbaugh wants control of the supply base since the R9 is sensitive to recoil spring condition. (In the OEM automotive business, we used to buy and own the tooling for some vendor-supplied parts. That way, if the vendor went bust or started to screw up quality-wise, our QC and purchasing people would pull the tools and contract with a back-up maker.)

That ain't all bad. Rohrbaugh's price is right, and every spring you buy has the Rohrbaugh name behind it. Eliminates finger-pointing in the event of a problem.

S.

Thanks for the clarification Steve.
Title: tRe: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: Reinz on July 08, 2011, 01:31:43 AM: Quote
Have you confirmed this with Wolff? I checked their website prior to ordering my springs from Rohrbaugh and again this morning after reading your post; Rohrbaugh isn't listed on their site.

Please confirm.

From the Rohrbaugh website, note last two words :

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State of the Art:
Our firearms are designed with the use of CAD/CAM programs. CNC machines perform the manufacturing. Then each gun is then hand fitted and assembled in our state of the art facility. The materials used are of the highest grade, including quality stainless steel, 7075 aircraft aluminum, G-10 grips and Wolff springs.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: yankee2500 on July 08, 2011, 02:12:31 AM: I guess that answers that, Wolf it is. ;D
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: eye_spy on August 17, 2011, 10:13:23 PM: Does anyone know what the highest round count is?

Is that w/o repairs/ problems?
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kjtrains on August 17, 2011, 10:26:28 PM: Highest round count we know of is, over 5000 each! Without problems. Two customers of The Irish Guard, Tom Watson.
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: eye_spy on August 18, 2011, 08:25:26 PM: Thanks! Are they members of the forum?

Are the guns showing much wear and tear?
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: 08055 on August 19, 2011, 02:38:22 PM: I bought my R9s a year ago and my latest round count is 112. Flawless ;D
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Post by: yankee2500 on August 19, 2011, 07:56:04 PM: 08, congrats on a perfect record. Now get out there and put some more rounds through that pup. ;D
Title: Re: What's your R9's round count?
Post by: kowski1911 on September 08, 2011, 02:42:36 PM: ive own this pistol 2 weeks....... 300 down range