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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh Accessories => Topic started by: RJ HEDLEY on June 18, 2005, 10:48:22 AM
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What do you think ? This very one is on it's way to my ''Field Tester''..
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Holy simple solution, Batman! :D Any reason why the tappered stick can't be half as long? And the reason for aluminum over brass is for strength? I like it!
Cheers!
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"Any reason why the tapered stick can't be half as long? "
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No reason for length, just easier for me to handle..And if ''stick'' develops a worn spot at the contact points, the whole "stick" can be filed down, to offer a new surface.
"And the reason for aluminum over brass is for strength?"
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I have no brass :)
Thanks for your feed back...
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Isn't the "chop stick" idea the same one that R9SCarry has been using and talking about all along - at least in a wood version? ::) Perhaps material choice could be left up to the user.
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Yes, the very same idea, ::) , but in Aluminum .. The taper is the thing that makes it truly self adjusting..
Not re-inventing anything.. :)
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If you let me know how much, feel free to put one in with my holster order.
Brad K.
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I TOO would like one-if/when available.. ;)
Always looking.. 8)
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The little "Chop Stick" is now been re named to the "STOP STICK". Will be available next week. It has been shortened to 3"..
Price will be $18 shipped, in the lower 48 states.
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RJ, I would like to get 3. PM me to tell me how and where to send the money. Thanks, Tom
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Tom Please Email your Address , Mine will be returned to you..
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The Machine Shop has not delivered the batch I ordered yet, I was told about one week.. Our fellow member Richard_S has one now, he will be here soon, I'm sure, with his opinion on the little "Stick"
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>>Nice design, RJ...! I made one out of 1/4" PVC rod, and it works ok...although with the one I'm using I think I should have made it longer...is currently ~ 2"...I like three to four inches for reasons RJ mentioned - easy to manouver and can cut down, as needed, if it gets worn. Thing I like about PVC rod is that it is hard enough to serve as a slide block, but soft enough that it should not cause marks or wear on the slide that a metal version might. Still...I'll probably have to order an RJ Stop Stick just because...!...TW<<
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TW
Thanks for your comments and observations. I too, started with a whittled down wooden dowel. It does work, but being of a breed that always wants more, better, faster, hotter, cooler, newer, and the unavailable, and as soon as possible,
I needed a real TOOL.. not a stick . :) ;D
I made three of these little Tools myself, in my little shop and they were a pain, being so small. So I made a dimensioned drawing and took it to a Machine Shop that was equipped for this sort of thing..
I only ordered 50 made, if they go quickly, I wiill order more..
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RJ,
Please count me in for 2.. :D
I will send you payment as soon as I can..
I have your addy..
Thanks for this.. 8)
Brenden
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RJ: Count me in for one, please. Will sent $.
Cheers!
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Nice idea!!
However - cheapskate that I am - my next visit to Chinese for food will include a new pack of chopsticks (to keep in reserve) - they have such nice hardwood ones! :P :P ;D
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RJ wrote:
Our fellow member Richard_S has one now, he will be here soon, I'm sure, with his opinion on the little "Stick"
I am currently travelling with my wife and won't be returning to home base until the end of the week. I'm told that a package from RJ was delivered to the house in my absence. That has to be the "Stop Stick." I'll try it out and report back as soon as I get home.
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RS9Carry
You inspired me ! But, as more of a "Outback" And "Long Horn" type, I had to do something... :D ;D
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I found that one of my allen wrenches fit perfectly in the R9 to allow for the pin removal. I forget what size. I'll have to check on that and post it.
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I made three of these little Tools myself, in my little shop and they were a pain, being so small. So I made a dimensioned drawing and took it to a Machine Shop that was equipped for this sort of thing..
I only ordered 50 made, if they go quickly, I wiill order more..
>>I'm convinced - count me in for one...assuming your street addie is on your web site I will dig it up and send you a money order ASAP.
One of the things I like about your design is the fact it has four sides, which makes for a secure fitting...whereas mine is round and can roll around a bit when put in place. Hmmm...so WHY haven't I made a PVC version with sides...?...!...lol...!! Toys for the boys - gotta love it.
Again - good work on the design of this baby...!...TW<<
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The Machine Shop called, They are ready now..
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RJ,
Could you please set one aside for me?
I sent you a PM.
Bill
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My wife and I returned to home base last night and the package from RJ containing the "Stop Stick" was waiting among the items of accumulated mail. This thing really works! It's one of those concepts (such as RJ's back-pocket design for holsters) which make you wonder, "Why didn't I think of that?" For those of you who own LWS .32s, the "Stop Stick" serves much the same function for field stripping the Rohrbaugh as the spent .32 ACP casing does for the Seecamp.
As much as I like the "Stop Stick," my little wife likes it even more. She will no longer have to serve as my "third hand" when I need to clean my R9s.
Congratulations, RJ, and thank you! My check's in the mail.
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I'm thinking of making a few STOP STICK's from some soft brass stock, if I can find the stock locally.
Any interest?
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Hi RJ,
Brass would be of interest to me.
Dave
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I am not all that familiar with the various brass alloys available but the ones we use at work to dig things out of crome plated molds are pretty soft. I would think whatever material used for the brass punches out there would work. Are they hardened after forming maybe?
For now I'll stick with the plastic toothbrush handle I use....it's shaped almost exactly like RJ's alluminum stick.
A side note...I haven't found the channel lock pliers necessary for guide reinstall. I just compress it by hand with both thumbs behind the rear end and both index and if needed middle fingers holding the end cap...just drops in. Picture your thumbs together, index fingers together and forming a diamond, squeeze, push into the front slide hole and drop in against the barrel lug..
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Hi RJ,
Better put me down for a "Stop Stick, a right front pocket holster and mag pouch. Kind of like brown more than black ." Wouldn't mind brass if you have it for the stop stick.
PM me and tell me how much for all and I'll send you out a money order.
Keep up the great work.
Best,
Mike
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>>I received my aluminum RJ Stop Stick - very nice...! I have yet to use it, but I am sure it will function fine. I could be interested in a brass version, but need to wait until I get my next allowance. Meanwhile, I plan to make a Stop Stick based on RJ's form and made out of PVC rod. When I get around to doing it, I will post a pic with comments...this right after I edit ~100 pics I took of Eric doing the R9 breakdown/maintenance stuff at the last PA shoot. Just not enough time in the day - lol. Boys and their toys - ain't it great...?...!!...TW<<
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RJ,
I would like to try a brass one also if you do so..I sent for 2 of the alum. ones. :)
I have a thought (Lots of work for you though :o) of a very small "case" for the stop sticks,and a punch.. ::)
I had bought my Father an "ivory" toothpick and case that it slid into with the upper part remaining out..I thought it was a great present as the old man always had a Tpick around.
Of course he had it in his pocket to please his 7 yr. old son,never used it but,ya know.. ;D
A case of that nature would keep those items together and look good along the R9..
I know RJ,You have too much work to keep up with now.. :o
Never hurts to ask though.. ;)
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TW - keep me in the loop woncha re those pics? Once you have some progress then maybe we can get to stage where I can add this material to the FAQ site.
But yeah - time - never enough to do the things we want! ;)
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I would be very interested in a brass stop stick. As to aluminum, aluminum oxide is harder than steel, and I'd worry about wear. But, on the other hand, I've used aluminum cleaning rods for years without ill effect. So that tells you what I know.
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GeorgeH
A "litte" information can be misleading. "Alumimnum Oxite" is very abasive, as in sand paper.
My *STOP STICKS* are made from soft aluminum.
Do a search on "Oil-impregnated sintered bronze". Now, THAT would be nice !
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RJ,
Received mine in the mail today.. :)
They look like a great addition to the R9 family unit.. 8)
Thanks again,
Brenden
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Hi RJ:
I didn't intend to flame either you or your sticks. To prove it, I will buy a set from you and I will use them.
But you are right, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I've been using aluminum cleaning rods for years without a problem. But I've read that aluminum oxide (I don't know what aluminum oxite is) is harder than steel and should be avoided in cleaning rods. It bugged me enough that I bought the Otis cleaning system two years ago, and stopped using my rods.
So relax and be happy--I'll be sending you money.
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Oh George, I knew you weren't flaming me, I just love pokeing at you.
The worst thing I know about cleaning rods is, they get dirt and grit embedded in them. It is not a factor with the *Stop Stick*, as there is no scrubbing action used in blocking the slide back.
In the use of the *Stop Sticks*, if you will scribe a depth line on the side of the *SS*, It can be inserted to the magic spot very easily.
Here's you some *Smilely faces* :) :) :)
I'm happy just knowing I'll be gettin' some of George's money, at last. ;D
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RJ,
I received a package from you today. Thank you.
Included is your famous “Chop / Stop Stick”. Excellent as expected.
Contemplating having my pay check directly forwarded to you on account. That’s it, direct deposit.
Nope, can’t. My bride has that with Nordstrom’s.
Again thanks for a great aid.
Bill
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ALuminum oxide forms on the surface of any aluminum fairly quickly -- it's a very thin layer, usually, just as deep as oxygen goes inside the surface of the metal -- anodizing is, more or less, building a thcker layer of aluminum oxide on the surface -- i don't think this is really a valid concern, as i think you have a greater likelihood of getting a scratch from something hard embedding in the soft metal, than the molecule or so thick layer of oxide on the surface.
Brad
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Billmark, *Direct deposit*, funny !
Aglifter, good post, I found similar details.
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I have ordered the stock for the making of the BRASS " Take down Tool". It will be about 7/ 18 before the new tool is ready to mail out..Price not yet established..
I will make special considerations for those that have the Aluminum model.
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OK RJ,
Did you get my order from the previous Post? One Brass Chop stick, one Front pocket Holster, one Mag holder. Like Brown but if it's a pain for you , black will be fine. Send me a PM and I'll send you a deposit when you get back from "Shoneys" with family and Duane.
be careful and stay safe,
Mike
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>>I'm interested in a brass nose-picker. So what's this business about "considerations" for those who have purchased aluminium ones...?...TW<<
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I will have a BRASS ''Stop Stick.'' It will be ready for delivery late next week.
The Brass "Stop Stick" will be $18 delivered in the lower 48 States..
The Aluminum "Stop Stick' is still availabe at a lower price, $12 in lower 48 states.
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In consideration of those that have purchased the Aluminum ''Stop Stick.'', the Brass Stick will be $12.
Fair enough?
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>>RJ...
I think $12 is more than fair for the brass tool. I'm in, and thanks...!...TW<<
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"..,.more than fair" TW
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That should make up for the fact than I force everyone to buy a Holster in order to get a Pocket Mag pouch, right? ;D
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"..,.more than fair" TW
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That should make up for the fact than I force everyone to buy a Holster in order to get a Pocket Mag pouch, right? ;D
>>How about a pouch for the Stop Stick...?...and/or a mag pouch with a stop stick...?? Yeah...that's the ticket...!...TW<<
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I will have a BRASS ''Stop Stick.'' It will be ready for delivery late next week.
The Brass "Stop Stick" will be $18 delivered in the lower 48 States..
The Aluminum "Stop Stick' is still availabe at a lower price, $12 in lower 48 states.
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In consideration of those that have purchased the Aluminum ''Stop Stick.'', the Brass Stick will be $12.
Fair enough?
That is VERY fair..Put me down for 2 Brass as I got 2 Alum ones.. :)
Like I said before-A small "pouch" would be great for these and a punch.. 8)
I would buy another holster to get the "tool pouch" ;)
Thanks again RJ..
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*Tool pouch*
You guys keep asking for a Tool Pouch, this would be to fit what length punch? Every body most likely has a different length punch.. I am looking for a short punch, about 3 " long, in brass. All that I have looked at in 1/16" are too soft and bend too easily..
When I have a source for a 3'' -1/16" punch that is not so soft, I will make a suitable pouch to contain it and the Stop Stick.. ;D
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*Tool pouch*
You guys keep asking for a Tool Pouch, this would be to fit what length punch? Every body most likely has a different length punch.. I am looking for a short punch, about 3 " long, in brass. All that I have looked at in 1/16" are too soft and bend too easily..
When I have a source for a 3'' -1/16" punch that is not so soft, I will make a suitable pouch to contain it.. ;D
RJ,
Sounds like a deal..
You seem to have the connection for the Mettalurgy end-maybe they could do the Punch also.. ;) ;D
I have been looking for a suitable punch myself..But please put me first in line when you do the pouch.. :D
Thanks RJ for your goodness in consideration.. 8)
Brenden
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RJ, I'll take a 3" punch in brass also with a pouch to fit both the stick and punch. Thanks, Tom
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Thinkin' of punches, stop sticks and all - makes me wonder - WTH has our Shelb gotten too - the boy has seemingly ''buggered off''!! :o :)
Hate losing members!!
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Chris,
Every once in awhile I say.."Shelby where are you"??
I have not heard a word either.. :o
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Hi RJ.
This IS a great idea. I'm in for a brass version. Can I order from your website? If not, let me know and I'll get the money to you.
Thanks for taking on this project!
-- Spectro
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Spectro
Check PM,...........Welcome aboard ;D
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How about a nylon tipped steel punch?
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George - nylon is excellent as an impact cushion and protector but at 1/16" dia I can't think of any real reliable way to attach effectively, a small nylon tip. As a material it is in relative terms a bit soft and flexible - thus can be distorted with any side force.
A steel punch is Ok if ground to a totally flat and smooth face - with minimal chamfer to avoid cutting edges - after that it is down to the user to be careful. Brass to is fine if the 1/16" dia section is not over long - to avoid any bend risk.
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RJ,
I received my holster, mag pouch and "Stop stick" Today They are great, and you are an artist and a gentleman. Thank you for the great, prompt service. I'm all set now when the pup arrives.
Mike
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Thank you, glad you are pleased.
RJ=
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Wow, I sure have missed alot in my absence. My business heated up and I have been working non-stop, but today for some reason I took a few minutes to check things out here...
So this "stop stick" thing has got my attention. It occured to me right when I got my R9s that I could jam something in the chamber to hold the slide back while I remove the pin, but I was afraid to do that.
Brass seems like a good idea, but still, it makes me nervous. Has anyone here noticed that a stop stick has scratched or dinged or otherwise had any impact on their pistol?
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As I am the *Daddy* of the Stop Stick, my answer may not qualify, but the Seecamp pistol has this method in the owners manual, only it is a cartridge case.
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>>FYI...I've now used RJ's aluminum and brass Stop Sticks and there is no sign of markings on my R9s.
BTW, RJ... I absolutely LOVE the brass Stop Stick...! The rounded off head is a nice touch...!! This tool is so cool that I want to carry it around with me just to look at...! So, RJ... How about a tiny leather sheath for the Stop Stick...?...kinda like the one I have for my gold tooth pick. Well...I don't actually have a gold tooth pick - but if I did I'm sure it would come with that nice leather sheath...TW<<
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RJ,
I would like to try a brass one also if you do so..I sent for 2 of the alum. ones. :)
I have a thought (Lots of work for you though :o) of a very small "case" for the stop sticks,and a punch.. ::)
I had bought my Father an "ivory" toothpick and case that it slid into with the upper part remaining out..I thought it was a great present as the old man always had a Tpick around.
A case of that nature would keep those items together and look good along the R9..
I know RJ,You have too much work to keep up with now.. :o
Never hurts to ask though.. ;)
TW,
We must be as one with the Rohrbaugh "Takedown Kit" ;) ;D
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RJ, I got the mag pouch and brass stop stick today. They are wonderful. Thanks, Tom
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Thanks Tom
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>>Psssst. RJ... **TW gears up for subliminal message with Brendon**...
We neeeed Stop Stick pouch...we NEEEeeed Stop Stick pouch...we neeeEEEEEED Stop Stick pouch.
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Altogether with Brendan,
We Neeeed stop stick pouch...............
Mike
TW, RJ is going to kill you!
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TW I hear you, but I don't have time to do what I have now.
Maybe later.. You don't need anymore in your pockets..... :)
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As I am the *Daddy* of the Stop Stick, my answer may not qualify, but the Seecamp pistol has this method in the owners manual, only it is a cartridge case.
Hi RJ, your answer is fine and I appreciate it. How do I order one? I didn't see it on your web site...
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Pm sent
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>>But RJ... I just added a new pocket, just for the Stop Stick...!...TW<<
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And I was just reconfiguring my pocket contents! Oh well, back to the drawing board....!
Mike
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Guys, do we really want RJ to spend time making leather pouches for a metal stick? I would much rather he work through his holster backlog and start taking orders again for those...
Can't you just toss the stop stick in your cleaning tools box and forget about it?
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I'm for that, we are not going to take down the pup during a battle. Tom
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I'm just going to buy pants with more pockets. Can you say Captain Kangaroo! ( Who, by the way, was a highly decorated and wounded Marine Sgt in the battle for Iwo Gima. He was a pal of another Marine, Lee Marvin.) There is something about pockets.....!
Mike
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Mike, If you get too many pockets, you will forget what you are carrying with you and where it is. just a thought!! Tom
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Tom, I don 't mind. As it is now, I go out in the car, drive down the road, and forget where I'm going and why. It goes with the territory. You have to be tough to be old. It ain't for baby's!
Mike
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>>Yeah...you guys are right. We need RJ working on important things like holsters and such. Besides...I really don't think RJ could make a proper pouch/holster/sheath for the Stop Stick, ya know...? I mean, it would take some fine motor skills to make a decent Stop Stick holster, I rekon. Probably best left for some younger fella to make...you know - someone with the stroooong fingers and the good eyes of youth to start with, and with more time on his hands. Yeah...that's the ticket...! We will just have to find some up and coming younger person to make the proper sheath for RJ's Stop Stick. How silly of me... Why didn't I think of that before...?...!...TW<<
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That's it. Just dangle the bait and reel 'em in. But ...RJ hasn't been around this long because he's dumb. It's gonna take more than that to out fox the fox!
Mike
Nice try though.
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Mike is right, I just saw RJ put on his blinders! Tom
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;D :) :D
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Finally had a chance to try my stop stick last night and clean up the R-9...
The stop stick worked great. Having the right tools availbable -- stop stick, proper size punch, and a pair of pliers -- makes disassembly a breeze!
Thanks, RJ.
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Thanks Gator, try making a light scratch on the "Stick" at the right depth for pin alignment. It helps a little..
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Maybe I'm to low-tech for my own good. When I disassemble my R9s, I hold the gun in my left hand, barrel facing left, thumb through the trigger guard, fingers curled over slide. I pull the slide back with my right hand until the hole and pin line up, then hold the slide in that position just by clamping my fingers down. I use anything handy to start the pin out (often a round wood toothpick but always something softer than the aluminum frame), then pull it out with my right hand. Let the recoil spring relax, and ease off the slide. Voila! Anyway, if I'm ever in the boonies with no tool kit, I know I can take the bug apart. ;D
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There are a few pins that don't move that easily, mine for one . And I would say, there are not that many guys that can do what you describe, or would have the patience to learn.
I think Eric and Karl can do it as you described..
Wish I could... :D
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My #1 R9 is easy with the pin - line up per Musician's method and push it out - yep - toothpick can work.
#2 gun tho is a tad tighter and does need a small impact via a punch - not much but for that I use my famous (genuine :D ) chopstick.
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.........And Heck, I still go 30 of the Aluminum "Sticks" to Peddle. $12....... need one?? :-[ :-/ ::)
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RJ, your stop stick works great! I tried mine for the first time tonight. For the past few months work has kept me quite busy, but tonight I decided to tear down my R9s and relube it.
I stuck the stop stick in place, lined up the hole and takedown was that simple.
One question for you guys, though. I noticed that the recoil spring seemes a lot weaker than it used to be. The pin pushed right out, which has never happened before. On reassembly, I had no trouble just using my fingers to get the guide rod back in. Before I always had to use the channel lock wrench.
The pistol has spent a lot of time in my pocket, but until tonight it has been months since I even racked the slide. Maybe the spring just weakened? Should I be concerned?
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One question for you guys, though. I noticed that the recoil spring seemes a lot weaker than it used to be. The pin pushed right out, which has never happened before. On reassembly, I had no trouble just using my fingers to get the guide rod back in. Before I always had to use the channel lock wrench.
The pistol has spent a lot of time in my pocket, but until tonight it has been months since I even racked the slide. Maybe the spring just weakened? Should I be concerned?
Jim:
That's a "puzzlement." I can't figure out why the recoil spring would lose a discernible amount of tension without being cycled at least a few hundred times. It may be that your Rohrbaugh just happened to contain a defective spring. (Murphy's Law applies even to modern metalurgy.) If it were mine, I suppose I would go ahead and order a replacement spring.
[You haven't been eating a lot of Wheaties and spinach, have you? ;) ]
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I mentioned in another post not too long ago - my take on this weakening is -
There are two factors at work - one, and here the prime - is the ''set'' the spring will take after being fitted and then being under a constant compression. Once initial set occurs - after probably many days - it will level out and further change should not occur. Wolff will most lilkely have this set allowed for in the effective average spring rate.
Second factor is actual cycling - and it is under that loading that I think Bros R choose to recommend a change after 500 miles (rounds!).!! In theory once an initial set is taken, a spring should manage millions of cycles - viz car valve springs, tho they are very purpose made.
The R9 spring is I think a compromize for many reasons and so benefits from a change at periodic intervals.
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>>I've noticed the same thing as jarcher with springs in both my R9s, although I do not detect any probs from the "set" springs. Actually, I rather expected such shrinkage, and enjoy being able to put the guns together without channel locks for a while. Thus far I just stick to swapping out springs every 500, as per factory specs.
What are other folks thoughts and experiences with this issue...?...TW<<
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I just got my 9s, # 8xx. The recommendation with the instructions says to change the spring every 250 rounds.
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HiCap
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Thanks for the update, HiCap.
I just downloaded the manual from Rohrbaugh Firearms, and they still say 500 rounds.
Did the 250 statement come as an insertion into the manual?
My pistol was received last month, and included an additional sheet. I'll check it out again.
Thanks again,
Bill
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HiCap,
I forgot to say: Welcome to the forum.
It's a shining example of what is possible on the Internet.
Best wishes,
Bill
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Hicap, Welcome to the forum. Enjoy your new pup and don't worry so much about the little things. Tom
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Michigunner, the 250 limitation was printed in red in the manual proper, not an insert.
BTW, at 5 yards point and shoot blasts the ten ring on a B-29 target. That's what it's about, this little puppy.
HiCap
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Thanks, HiCap. I appreciate hearing about the revised number.
I keep a careful log of ammunition used for each firearm.
Maybe this would be a good time to order a couple of extra springs.
Glad you are enjoying the new pistol.
Bill
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HiCap - just to throw in my own welcome - good to have you aboard! :)
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Hey RJ
I don't even have my R9 yet, but I will soon, so I'll order a stop stick from you now. Like others, I went to your web site and couldn't find it there. I'll watch for a PM.
Peace
Woodstock Doug
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RJ> I am new and have not yey taken mine down -please advise as to how I can order your "stick"
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PM sent
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Woodstock Doug,
Welcome to the forum.
RJ has great products. I have his Stop Stick, and holster.
Bill
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HiCap,
My manual also said to replace the spring at 250 rounds.
Sorry about being confused on the subject. Somehow, I thought it was 500 rounds.
Bill
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Hello! Greetings to one and all! I have taken the plunge and ordered an R9S from Tom (TheIrishGuard) and although I needed another gun like a hole-in-the-head, in a moment of insane frivolity I went ahead and ordered one (darn the torpedoes!). I have read so many positive experiences on this forum about this pocket rocket that I knew my life would never be the same until it was residing in my front pants pocket and relegate my Kel-Tec P3-AT back to the safe with my Kahr PM9 and assorted other small guns! Now, to my question: I would like to ask RJ if he has any of the brass "stop-sticks" left to sell as I know it is another "gotta have it!" accessory. I also want to tell everyone how much I enjoy visiting this forum and Chris' site! I have learned a lot about this gun and quite simply the comments that I have read here convinced me to purchase this upcoming constant companion! So RJ, please let me know, okay? Eric
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eblackhawk,
Welcome to the forum.
I know you will enjoy the new pistol and all the fine gentlemen here.
Bill
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Eric - big welcome to the enthusiast's forum:)
Glad you found the FAQ of some use - haven't added much of late but it does hopefully give some extra info for those considering a purchase and/or those fresh to the pup.
Hope you enjoy your stay with us - coutesy and manners are rife - which is thoroughly enjoyable. 8)
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I'm glad to see civility in practice around here. Unfortunately, a lot of forums have succumbed to the troll-inspired free-for-all!
And... thank you for the welcome! Eric
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eblackhawk,
Welcome!!!
We do not "allow" trolls..So no worry here!! :D
We are a decent group of gun nuts,if I may say!! ;D 8)
Once again-welcome...
Brenden
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Eric
By lurking here for awhile you already know that this is a great group here.
Tom is wonderful to deal with. Send RJ a private message on the stop stick.
Welcome and enjoy the ride.
Dave
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MountainMan,
Yep, RJ has already contacted me and a check to him for a brass "Stop Stick" will be on its way tomorrow Morning!
Thanks! Eric
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OK Eric, what are the Blackhawks going to do this year. Are the Chicago fans back?
Tom
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Tom,
My internet name doesn't come from hockey ( I grew up in NYC and although I am not a big sports fan, my loyalties lie with the Rangers) but rather my nickname as a kid based upon my love of comics (Quality comics and later DC comic-The Blackhawks) and the similarity of my last name to that title. So classmates that knew me in high school still refer to me by that name.
Eric
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thanks Eric, I'll keep you posted on the R9. Tom
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Eric:
Welcome to the Forum, and congratulations on your choice of a new "Pocket Rocket."
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RJ,
Went to your website to try to order some leather. I sent you an email contact but I just realized that I would also need an aluminum "chop stick" should I look for a PM?
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I must have missed something here. Please start from the beginning..
My E Mail is : rhedley@tampabay.rr.com
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I have taken my 9s appart three times now in 200 rounds. This is my issue. I have tried a wooden chopstick to see if it worked before ordering a metal one. It did but not without a lot of fiddling. In order to insert it I put it on the bench sticking out at 90 degrees and weighted it down with a hammer. That was my third hand. Reversing the proceedure was moer difficult, especially with Slide-Glide on the fingers. I had trouble getting the pin past the kidney shaped hole in the barel lug. Totally frustrating for such a nice pistol.
What is needed, I think, is a device that one can push down barrel first until the pin lines up and then push it out, a two handed operation.
I would suggest an aluminum extrusion in a "T" cross section, about 1/2" high and thin enough to allow the barel and spring guide rod to clear it when the pistol is pressed down on it enough to allow the pin to clear.
Thus: _I_ and about 2" long.
Any thoughts?
HiCap
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HiCap - I know the pup is awkward but, and maybe I still have reasonable hand strength - it does improve with practice.
I use the tapered end of std chopstick and manage to briefly hold everything open enough with one hand to insert chopstick quickly - then withdrawing it in small increments until pin and hole lined up.
I do admit reassembly is probably where most difficulties occur but again - it does (IMO) get better with familiarity.
Do go check RJ's ''Third Hand'' (http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/rohrbaugh/basefile/thirdhand.htm) which he posted here ages ago and which I have on the FAQ site.
A small vice is invaluable and may be good for you.
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HiCap,
I've found the easiest way to insert the Stop Stick is to hold it in my teeth. You just have to hope nobody sees you doing it....sorta The Secret Rohrbaugh Forum Handshake. ;D
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Thanks for the help. I have been leery of this pistol as being too good to be true. I had in the back of my mind that it was delicate. The more I use it the more I realize it's as reliable as a J frame. I've about 200 rounds through it adn contrary to the PM9, it doesn't need to be broken in. I have had zero problems. Lock it in and aim the forearm and 7 shots go as quickly as I can pull the trigger in the proper ring of a B 29 at five yards. But boy-oh-boy it takes skill to take appart and put together.
HiCap the learner
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R9SCarry, the vice is on its way. Friends say I have enough vices, but it's OK to add one more. Thanks.
HiCap
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Anyone know of a way to put a dished depression in the ends, or at least one end of the pin? Like the head of the mainspring housing pin on a M1911?
The barrel link pin on my week old R9S has to be driven out -- and back in. I'm afraid the back-in part will result in even a soft punch slipping off the flat head and marring the pistol's finish.
-- Chuck
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Chuck:
RJ or one of the other engineer types around here would know best, but it would seem to me that you might be able to secure the pin in a vice and then grind a dished depression in the end using a cone-shaped Dremel bit.
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The pin moditfication, would be tough.
I would suggest something more simple, and do-able by all..
Use a 3'' length of masking tape, punch a hole in the center, with a sharpened pencil. Apply this hole over the pin as it is started in the slide. Double the tape, if you feel it is necessary.
Just be determined to control the punch... :P
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I recieved my RJ "Stop Stick"
Very nice tool. I like tools, this one will work.
Thanks RJ.