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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh Accessories => Topic started by: WoodstockDoug on September 30, 2005, 02:47:09 PM
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I'll soon be getting my R9s and I'm wondering about holsters for it -- I already have two ordered, but while I am waiting for them I am wondering what else it might fit in. I keep hearing that it is essentially the same size as a Keltec P32 and as a NAA Guardian .380, and I have half a dozen holsters for those guns. Will the R9s fit comfortably in any of my existing leather?
I saw the thread that shows that my 1911 holsters might hold it -- funny, I had already discovered that about my Guardian .380, that it fits perfectly in my 1911 belt holsters.
Thanks for input.
Woodstock Doug
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Doug:
RJ recently posted a link to an excellent chart comparing the sizes of most currently available pocket pistols. You can find it here: http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Other;action=display;num=1125584018
If you're talking about fitted holsters, I don't believe you will find them to be interchangeable. You might be able to use one of the R9 holsters for a G380, but it would be a "sloppy fit." The Rohrbaugh, although lighter in weight, is slightly larger and has a deeper trigger guard than the Guardian.
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Doug,
I have an NAA Guardian .380 as well as an R9S.
Two of the pocket holsters I bought for the Guardian .380 fit the R9S very well.
The first is a DeSantis Nemesis. They are cheap to buy - about 14 bucks - and hold up well for knocking around.
Second is a Galco Ph404 pocket holster. It fits the R9S like it was custom made. Rough on the outside & smooth on the inside, so it stays in your pocket.
I also have a RJ Hedley custom holster. It is beautifully made, tightly boned to the contour of the gun. It is so nice I hate to beat it up, so I've used it sparingly so far. RJ is a senior member of this forum. Check his profile for web address.
Unless you wear your trousers real tight, buy his RB - F/ LE. It has that little hook along the slide end that helps keep the holster in your pocket.
Hope the above info helps you, and good luck with your new "best friend" R9S. Mine is a constant pocket companion.
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Yes, I was talking about fitted holsters -- I have a fair number of them for the Guardian and the P32 (and about six for the 1911) all Ron Graham holsters, and one from K&D. I wasn't counting all the various Uncle Mikes and other nylon or other holsters I've picked up, including some with no names from used and discount racks.
My pride and joy, though, is the sharkskin Kentucky that Ron made for my P32, and that one in particular I was hoping I could use for the R9. It is too beautiful for words, and since I expect to be essentially retiring the P32 once the R9 arrives, I hate to stop using a holster that is worth more than the gun it holds. But.. hey, it always gives me an excuse to buy another holster, and while I'm likely to retire the P32, I'm not getting rid of it. It can live with its accessories in my safe until they are needed, or until they can be passed on to someone who will love them.
Thanks for the link to that chart.
Woodstock Doug
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Doug:
While I own the G380 and the G32 in addition to the R9s, I do not own a P32. I therefore did not comment on the P32 in my previous message. However, the more I study the chart which RJ posted, the more I think your prize P32 holster might just work for your forthcoming Rohrbaugh. Let us know.
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Throughout the dialogue I do not understand why
someone would not buy a specific holster for the R9S
or use the recommended ammo; maybe it is like one of
my old friends, a Neurologist, observed: there are some
of us who are psychopathic deviates---rules are made
for everyone else; whatever is standard and recommended
I will do differently; there are a lot of threads on this forum
that suggest people really want to do their own thing in
the face of sound advice; over.
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Tracker, say you bought a new car and then purchased an aftermarket $1,000 stereo system to go with it. Then, after a few years, you decided to purchase a much better car that would suit your needs more specifically. Wouldn't you want to transfer that perfectly good stereo into your next car?
Certainly I want a holster that fits my gun perfectly, just as you would want tires that are the right size for a car. Anything that doesn't fit perfectly is downright stupid. But if it does fit two guns perfectly, why not use the same holster for both? All I'm asking is whether the size/shape of other guns is the same as the R9.
I'm not cheap, or I wouldn't be buying a R9, and you can see from my posts that I have many hundreds of dollars worth of holsters from some of the best holster makers. And while I am certainly as much of a rebel as I can be, I begin to twitch and drool when I get called a "psychopathic deviant." I start to see spiders everywhere and the voices in my head start demanding I eat French Toast. But what does that have to do with holsters?
Have you ever switched a scope from one gun to another? Maybe you dared to use the same range bag for a new gun after you sold the old one? A holster is an accessory, and an aftermarket one, at that. It needs to fit the gun, absolutely, but there isn't anything in the owners manual that says it can't fit another gun, too. (Wait, is that polyGUNy? And I'm not even a Mormon!) Seriously, there's nothing deviant about using it if it works. I'm sorry if you think that is "breaking the rules." I would love it if you cited that particular regulation for me; I must have been having one of my "episodes" during that part of my training.
:)
Gotta go- I'm about to buy a new pair of shoes that I will dare to wear with several different pairs of pants. :)
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Woodstock Doug:
No, a leather holster molded for a P32/P3AT will not fit the R9S. They really are too different in shape/size. A nylon generic holster might work for all three, but not a leather holster. If you try and change the shape of the leather holster, you most likely will end up ruining the shape of it and will not be able to use it for either one.
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Doug,
I am still laughing. Hope you get that R9 soon. Having it in your possession will answer many questions.
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WSD,
I held off looking at your response for 24 hrs., fearing
the salvo but your response was wonderful. First, I said
"us", not you and the word was "deviate'', not "deviant".
As my old deceased friend, the Neurologist explained to me,
it is not all bad. We run the yellow lights, push it right to
the edge of the cliff, sometimes engage in illicit affairs, and
then pull back just before disaster, simply because we know
where the line is drawn. God bless your soul: I am one of
you.
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On July 4 1776, delegates from 13 American colonies to the Second Continental Congress approved the Declaration of Independence in Philadelphia's Independence Hall. John Hancock, who was serving as President of the Congress, warned the delegates, "There must be no pulling different ways: we must all hang together."
Benjamin Franklin is said to have quipped, "We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we will all hang separately."
All of us "cliff edgers" need to hang together. ;D
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Richard S, good quotes to remember. Thanks!
The gun lobby needs to hang together.
Tom
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Just to follow up...
Kevin was right, of course -- the R9 doesn't fit into any holsters made for any of my other guns. The trigger guard is the main culprit, as it is larger on the R9 than the Guardian or the Kel-Tec, so the R9 won't slide into any of those holsters. It does "fit" into my 1911 holsters, but just not snugly enough that I'd be willing to trust retention while doing handstands, playing Tarzan, or wrestling alligators. Roller skating with my 2 year old is also out of the question.
For the nonce, I am keeping it warm in a basic $15 Nemesis pocket holster while waiting on some real leather. I ordered a Ron Graham Huckleberry and a K&D Mini-Defender, and once I get them I'll evaluate what other carry options I need.
Peace, Love, and superior firepower
Woodstock Doug
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I just went to the holster box, and tried most of the holsters I have.Mostly Milt Sparks, for a Glock, P7, 1911, sigs.
Nothing comes close to fit the R9.
I then tried the R9 in my Beltster Holster. That is a belt slide for a 1911 sewn into a belt.
The R9 fit just alright.
There's always the fanny pack.
I guess, like you, the Nemisis is the best for me until I get all the holsters I ordered.
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has anyone tried the Pager Pal Concealed Holster
www.pagerpal.com
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I have tried one on, but not with an R-9. I have heard far more negative than positive, mostly about comfort when sitting. There is also an issue with now fast you can draw (as with many deep concealment methods) and whether you want to to a cross-draw.
A pocket holster is a much better alternative if you can get that to work.
If you must have deep, deep cover -- consider a SmartCarry underwear type holster.
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laxasgs400, I have a customer who has a pager pal holster for his R9s. He ordered and now has a new RJ Hedley back pocket holster, and loves it.
Tom
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My first post here. Glad to be a part of such a well rounded, mature group.
I bought my R9s to replace my J-Frame PD as mostly an IWB carry piece. Smaller & flatter than the J. I have been using a Bianchi suede IWB holster for my J-Frame for many years and love the no nonsense, no frills approach to this holster. It has one single clip and holds just fine. It's also very soft and skin friendly.(No offense to the holster guys here, in fact I have one of Mr. Hedleys on the way)
Since I recently received my R9s, I notice it fits in my old Bianchi quite well except there is some excess "flab" of leather that needs to be cut off and restiched.
I know some people say the soft leather holster won't hold it as well but I feel the tension between my gut and my waistband holds it just fine. (I'm not in the habit of juming up and down on my hands.)
My question is does anyone know of a soft suede holster with only one clip designed yet for the R9s, or do I have to have my Bianchi cut and restitched by a professional? (maybe a shoe repair shop?)
I'm sorry if I've offended any of the Holster guys here. I know "suede" is probably like saying "Cubic Zirconia" to a Diamond guy.
Once again, glad to part of such a decent group of people.
Buz
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Buz, welcome and enjoy the forum. Good to hear from you. You could go to Milt Sparks and get the summer special.
Tom
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Tom,
Thank you for the warm welcome!
I've looked at the Milt Sparks. Fine holster but I usually do not wear a belt.(no need for the loops) That is why I like the single clip on type. I don't think a soft suede IWB holster exists for this gun yet.
I actually think I am looking for a "rag" of a holster which is probably below the quality standards of most people here. After all, I want IWB which is DIRECTLY against my skin. That is not the place for hard leather and beautiful stitching and such. I just want a soft "pouch" to securely hold my R9s with a single "no nonsense" belt clip that can be clipped on my pants even without a belt.
Maybe I'm looking for something too simple!
Anyway, I may just have to have my Bianchi cropped and possibly I'll have the first soft IWB holster for the R9s.
I think this would be too "medial" a task for the holster makers here, and I don't blame them.
Buz
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Buz:
Welcome to the Forum. As one of the holster makers available, here are a couple of thoughts. Most suede leathers, not all, are tanned by a process of what's called chrome tanning. Essentially it can wreak havoc on a gun's finish. The majority of holster makers stay away from it for that reason - if it's going to come in contact with the gun.
With respect to refitting the Bianchi, a shoe repair shop should be able to do that very easily for you at minimal expense.
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Buz,
Welcome to the forum. I hope you post often.
Bill
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Thanks Bill & K-Man
Point well taken about the chrome tanning. As georgeous as the R9s is, I may just have to live with a few spots(god for bid) on the slide. After all, something I entrusting my life with is entitled to have a few "freckles" if it must be. (My wife has a few freckles and..........oh you know what I mean.)
Could the crome tanned leather REALLY mess up the R9 or would it just be cosmetic?
Buz
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I normally carry in my www.buybrownholsters.com kydex paddle holster with kydex spare magazine belt pouch. However I am starting to carry in an Uncle Mike’s size 3 pocket holster. I may be ordering a leather pocket holster from a poster on here soon as I am starting to carry this gun that way more than I thought I would originally. I also have an Uncle Mike’s size 1 inside the waist band holster. This holster has a Velcro retention strap. Lastly I have another Uncle Mike’s inside the pants holster size 36 which is the same size as the size 1 holster. The only difference is this one does not have a retention strap and has a more angled cant to it. I have not actually used these two last holsters. They are just in my holsters drawers and fit this R9 gun.
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I like the Uncle Mike's Inside the pants holster. It looks perfect and it doesn't have the chrome tanned suede K-man was talking about.
I think I like it, Thank's bigyimmy!!
Now if I could figure out which size fits perfectly. Does your size 1 seem a little big? I'm wondering if the size 10 made for small autos would work. It's made for .22 & .25's. Does anyone have an opinion on this?
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Buz
Wanted to welcome you to the forum!!
Enjoy... ;) ;D 8)
Brenden
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lexasgs400:
Welcome to the Forum. It's a good group which gathers here.
As for the PagerPal, I have one in my safe. The design is a good concept, but it just doesn't work for me. You may like it. Others have. I have pretty much settled on IWB for primary and pocket-carry for BUG.
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Buzz,
Welcome to the Forum. I have every size of Uncle Mikes inside the waist band and pocket holster. I got the #1 inside the pocket to fit my Rohrbaugh R-9S, but I had to cut some of the upper sitching and redo it. Yes real men do sew, just ask R.J. Hedley ;) When I get home I'll check my ISWB holsters and report on how they fit my R-9S. FYI I usally carry my R-9S in a Smart Carry holster.
Ed
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Ed,
I appreciate your reply and I am curious as to which of your IWB's fits the R9 like a glove, as I am NOT good with a needle & thread.
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Buz - welcome from me too :)
If I am not using K-Man's pocket holster I do find odd occasions that an Uncle Mikes #2 pocket holster can be useful - it is a sorta soft pouch deal but wrapped with grippy rubber to help keep it in place.
I got it not as an R9 item but IIRC probably to suit KelTec P3AT.
Leather - real leather - is tho IMO best way to go for most pocket purposes tho having said that I also have Kevin's belt Defender for the R9 and that is sweet - and sees use periodically - darned tiny gun is all but invisible even worn OWB!.
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Buz,
It will fit in my #10 Uncle Mike's, but it rides high on your belt. I feel the #1 is best. It covers the gun well and has a strap.
***I often take my pistols and photocopy them either on a copier or my flatbed scanner and then print their picture at the exact size they are. I then cut this picture out and make two marks on the back to show how wide (thick) the gun is. I fold it up and put it in my wallet. Then when I am out shopping and find a holster that might fit I compare it against my same sized printed picture gun.
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Thank you. I will check out a size #1.
Ed mentioned that he had to trim a little off the top of his size #1.
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I did not trim mine, but that may be something you may want to do.
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I am all thumbs when it comes to a needle & thread.
Do you feel the retension strap is necessary? I know they make one without also.
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In my opinion Buz, the size #1 Uncle Mike's inside the waist holster that comes with a retention strap is fine just as it comes. It covers the gun well yet can be drawn easily. You can either fold the Velcro strap back on its self (which is what I did) or trim it with scissors. The holster is about $12 ( perfect for a $1k gun :D )
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Tracker, ... And while I am certainly as much of a rebel as I can be, I begin to twitch and drool when I get called a "psychopathic deviant." I start to see spiders everywhere and the voices in my head start demanding I eat French Toast.
So, Doug, (and welcome to the list, btw!), which Woodstock are you from? The one in Georgia, the one in New York, or the festival that I attended 1969?
Timothy O'Leery
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Woodstock NY... old beer, stale hippies. Where there has never been a music festival, but everyone has come looking for one...
Woodstock...
... still no traffic lights.
... still no MacDonalds...
... the town with the highest percentage anywhere of liberals who vote conservative, and converatives who vote liberal, and neither group can explain their position without abandoning logic or raising taxes...
...where the most frequently seen parking sign reads "witches parking only, all others will be toad"...
but if you lived here, you'd be OM now.
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The High Noon pocket holster that I had originally bought for my PM9 fits the R9 pretty well. Actually, because the R9 is slightly smaller it makes drawing from the High Noon holster very easy.