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Title: PM45
Post by: Amacro on August 13, 2010, 07:14:22 PM
Saw a used- looks almost new -PM45 at gander mt today,
$599 with 2 mags and box seems like an excellent deal and the reviews that I've looked at on line seem favorable. I put it on hold till sunday and appreciate the input from those who have some insight.
Thanks Al
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: ccoorreeyy on August 13, 2010, 07:57:59 PM
I had one and it was a very good gun.  Nice and small for a 45 and it was very reliable (never a problem).  It was also easy to conceal.  I would rate it highly.  

I sold it to help fund a early R9 purchase.
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: tracker on August 13, 2010, 08:12:07 PM

I would prefer the Glock 36 and its excellent accuracy. If you just don't like Glocks that is a different issue.



http://www.remtek.com/arms/glock/model/45/36/
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: ccoorreeyy on August 13, 2010, 08:26:12 PM
I tried a 36 but the PM45 felt MUCH better in my hand.
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: tracker on August 13, 2010, 08:31:32 PM
That tactile feel is vey important. Did you buy the PM45?
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Aglifter on August 13, 2010, 09:25:51 PM
Dad has both (apparently, along w. my childhood chore of cleaning guns, I now am supposed to break in his new carry guns for him.  Not all bad, except for the tiny monsters...)  

The G36 is a bit bigger, but MUCH easier to shoot, at least for me.  

The PM45 is conceivable as a pocket pistol, and serves its purpose for him - securely stored in a town that he flies to from time to time, so he doesn't have to hassle w. flying w. a gun.   The G36 is pretty much a waist pistol.  

IMO, the first thing to address would be any sharp edges on the trigger - Dad's had some.  Otherwise, learning to deal w. the recoil would be about it - I actually didn't mind the stock sights.  As I recall, the trigger pull feels a bit heavy, and is longer than the Glock - not really a problem, provided you're used to a DAO gun.  It is considerably harder to rack than the G36, but that shouldn't be much of a problem for a healthy male.

Personally, I've gone w. a 329 NG for my gun of ~ that size.  I just use a clip draw to carry it, and have some custom "service style" grips fitted to it.  It's been quite comfortable, and has decent sights, has a remarkably smooth, if heavy, trigger pull for a stock revolver, and is comparable in weight to the Glock.  
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Amacro on August 13, 2010, 10:28:26 PM
No I have not purchased it as of yet -I did not have my gander mt credit card that I planned to use for lay away deposit 25% so they put it on a back shelf until I return. And yes as one of the respondants noted the spring is pretty tight!
But I did "dry fire" it and found the trigger pull to be light and smooth. I do hope the the spring does lighten up some or I'll have to do some work on my grip strengh!
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: tracker on August 13, 2010, 11:38:27 PM

Aglifter,
Is that a .44 Magnum that you are using as a carry gun?
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: yankee2500 on August 14, 2010, 12:18:01 AM
My son-inlaw has the PM45 and is very happy with it, shoots nice and conceals well. I have the PM40, PM9 and P380 all are fine shooting well made guns.

John
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Aglifter on August 14, 2010, 08:38:27 PM
Yup, but loaded w. 44 specials
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: kjtrains on August 14, 2010, 10:30:16 PM
I carry my Ruger .44 mag Ruger Super Black Hawk loaded with .44 mags to the range and in the woods.   :D
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Aglifter on August 15, 2010, 12:13:52 PM
I shot an IDPA match, once, w. full 44 Mags out of that thing - the 329 NG has a scandium frame.

 By the end of the match,  every screw on the gun was loose*, the rear sights had almost completely come off - forgot to use loctite on them, and I was struggling to be able to operate the cylinder latch.  But, I figured whatever was going to break on the gun, already would have - I had already disabled the Clinton lock, and installed a cylinder and slide firing pin.

*Even using 222MS loctite on all the screws.

After that, I'm happy to carry it w. 44 specials - I do put in mags for hunting in pig country, however.  
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: kjtrains on August 15, 2010, 12:33:27 PM
The .44 specials are the smart way to go, for sure; heavy .44 mag shooting can be trying; however, I love shooting it.
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: tracker on August 15, 2010, 01:07:29 PM

I love to shoot a .44 special.
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: kjtrains on August 15, 2010, 01:11:38 PM
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I love to shoot a .44 special.

 ;D
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Reinz on August 15, 2010, 10:07:34 PM
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I love to shoot a .44 special.

 ;D

My second pistol that I bought was a Super Blackhawk.  I was 18 and I had to reload to be able to afford to shoot.

Being young and dumb, having the most powerful handgun in the world, at that time, I naturually thought I had to load out to the max.

I shot about 200-300 rounds every weekend.

This was the beginning of the nerve damage that I now have in both hands/arms, from the tips of my fingers to my shoulders.

I have now come to appreciate the smaller caliber/loads. :)
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: kjtrains on August 15, 2010, 10:27:12 PM
So far I still like the high calibers.  Usually don't shoot over 50 rds of .44 mags, then another day the .454 or maybe mix 'em up for a total of 50; seems to work.  

The Freedom Arms .454 kicks the hardest; more so than the .454 Ruger Alaskan.  It's still a lot of fun.  

I can understand why, for sure,  your shooting at the maximum load and that many in a weekend; WOW!    
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Reinz on August 16, 2010, 07:53:22 PM
It is sooo hard for me to pass up deals on those precise Freedom Arms!  What machinery.

And the little man in me always trys to sell me an Alaskan at gunshows -- "it's a heavy frame, it will tame recoil, it's a Ruger Tank".....
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: kjtrains on August 16, 2010, 10:25:43 PM
Yep.  The Freedom Arms .454 with 7 1/2 inch non-ported barrel is one fine gun.  The tolerances are so tight, that the shells on the spent rds on .300 gr. ammo is very hard to punch out; haven't tried lower gr. ammo.

Had an individual at the range wanted to shoot it one day; after 2 rds, he handed it back.  I shot 47 rds that day, leaving one in the box.  Still have that rd as that was my first box in shooting the Freedom Arms .454.
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Reinz on August 17, 2010, 08:20:35 PM
I know better than to even TOUCH one of those .454s. ???

My 45 Win Mag and 475 Wildey don't come close, but at least they are GAS OPERATED for my sake. :)
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: kjtrains on August 17, 2010, 08:46:15 PM
Good that you can enjoy the 45 Win Mag and 475 Wildey.  Always a bright side.   :)
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Amacro on August 18, 2010, 01:43:54 PM
Well after all was said and done I not get the PM45, I have read and heard some of them can be quirky and since this one was used (barely) it may have had problems. If it was a friend who had the gun and I knew that it functioned well I would already own it, but at gander mt  you just can't be sure until after the fact. On the review of some of the responses I like and have actually fired the glock 36-and it did handle well but certainly not a pocket gun but neither is the PM45, sigh guess I'll be patient and wait for the rorhbaugh 45  ;D
Al
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: kjtrains on August 18, 2010, 05:51:25 PM
Yes!  The R45.  Good decision.  May take awhile, but it'll be worth the wait.    :)
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Reinz on August 19, 2010, 07:59:37 AM
and wait, and wait... :'(
lets change the subject. ::)
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: kjtrains on August 19, 2010, 08:22:18 AM
I know, the wait is hard, for sure!    ;)
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: yankee2500 on August 23, 2010, 01:18:26 AM
Wait for the R-45, wait for the One of a Kind R9 auction, wait for the Boberg, wait for the Microtec Archangel, wait to die.
Who knows which will come first. :o Hopefully not the last one.
It reminds me of the Army, wait, wait, wait.

John
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: kjtrains on August 23, 2010, 07:48:42 AM
Always something to look forward to, John!    ;D
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: musician on August 23, 2010, 09:38:51 PM
I had one of the early PM45s, and it gave me nothing but trouble.  Went back to the factory THREE times with no improvement in functionality.  On the fourth time, I told them I did not want this gun back, or a replacement PM45.  Kahr did right by me, however; they let me pick any gun I wanted from their lineup, and I chose a black stainless (all steel) K9 with night sights.  Works great, and I never really liked polymer frame guns anyway.  I prefer any caliber that begins with a 4 over anything that begins with a 3 or 9, but the K9 will shoot as hot a load as I want to feed it.
Title: Re: PM45
Post by: Reinz on August 23, 2010, 10:41:41 PM


Sounds like Kahr is a stand up company.