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Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: DDGator on August 13, 2006, 04:57:38 PM

Title: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: DDGator on August 13, 2006, 04:57:38 PM
I know we have some knowledgeable people here so I will take a shot... (pardon the pun).

I recently came into possession of a very old pocket gun.  This is a single action.22 LR pocket revolver -- very similar to an NNA mini, but a little larger than a Black Widow even.  There are black grips with a little logo that looks like a bust of George Washington.

One distinctive feature of this gun is that it loads through a "loading gate" looking opening (like on the modern single action guns), but there is no gate.  When the gun is carried, one round could conceivably fall out of the cylinder...

A few casual opinions at the gun show today estiamted it to be made in the late 1800s...

I will try and post some pics later.  Does any of this ring a bell for anyone?

Trying to figure out a bit of the history of this gun, how old it might be, and what it might be worth.  The condition is reasonable -- there is some surface rust that I am going to try and clean up.
Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: Richard S on August 13, 2006, 05:28:38 PM
Duane:

Is this your revolver>

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/Liberty8sml.jpg)

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=1460zSMALL%20FRAME
Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: DDGator on August 13, 2006, 06:32:47 PM
No.  That looks like a Ruger Single Six size gun.  I am talking about very slightly larger than an NAA mini-revolver.  No trigger guard.  Nubby little trigger.   A real vest pocket gun.

It has a seven shot cylinder.  Actually, the caliber is not marked.  I may be assuming it is a .22 LR.  Could it be .22 short?  If it is, will a .22 LR not fit/stick out the front of the cylinder?
Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: Richard S on August 13, 2006, 07:36:17 PM
Does it have "LIBERTY ARMS CORP MONTROSE CAL" stamped on the right side of the frame above the trigger and "ROHM GMBH SONTHEIM/BRZ" stamped on the left side of the barrel?
Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: DDGator on August 14, 2006, 12:04:02 PM
No...  The only visible markings are LIBERTY in block print on the top of the barrel, and two symbols on the grips -- a small round circle with what appears to be George Washington's head (or similar patriot of the times) and a small shield with a star in the top and stripes on the bottom.

Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: FireBreather01 on August 14, 2006, 01:44:01 PM
That sounds like an interesting find, Duane. I would call the NRA's HQ and ask for the museum - they should be able to help.
Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: Richard S on August 14, 2006, 03:01:54 PM
Duane:

The "LIBERTY" trade name was used by the Norwich Falls Pistol Company (O.A. Smith)  as well as by the Hood Firearms Company of Norwich on small-caliber (including .22) pocket revolvers manufactured in the latter part of the 19th Century.  They are sometimes included in the category of "Suicide Specials" -- unsafe to use with today's ammunition. In addition to the NRA Museum, you might be able to obtain more information through the Gun-Data web site:

http://www.gun-data.com/index.htm

Good luck!
Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: DDGator on August 15, 2006, 12:55:28 AM
Here are the photos, finally...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DDGator/rightside.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DDGator/Leftside.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DDGator/ComparedtoNAA22mag.jpg)
Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: Tierhaus on November 29, 2008, 12:46:48 PM
Hello Duane,

Your last post on this topic (that I could see) was back in Aug of 2006.  Did you find any more info on this pistol?  I have one identical to this and am curious about it’s origins also.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: DDGator on November 29, 2008, 06:41:11 PM
Not really no, but I sold it to someone who had more interest in it than I did.  $75 if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Liberty .22 Single Action pocket revolver
Post by: cmshawk on June 30, 2009, 08:47:01 PM
a place told me that they were 40 to 50 $