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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: ACP on December 28, 2009, 01:35:17 PM
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Is the R45 a fact or myth? Our Adminstrator recently shot down the idea that the R45 would appear at the Shot Show. I have gotten PMs and emails relating to the R45 and I am trying to get a definitive response from someone.
What I have heard:
1. R45 will be at 2010 Shot Show
2. R45 will not be at shot show
3. Functioning R45 may not be at Shot Show but a "mock up" or facsimile of the R45 will be at Shot Show
4. (Brace yourself) The factory is concerned about the market for the R45!!!!!
This forum is absolutely festooned with open desire for the R45 and some of us have already forwarded deposits to Tom Watson. PLEASE: Will someone please step forward and tell us what the $%^& is going on?
Thank you.
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Is the R45 a fact or myth?
Werd! Inquiring minds need to know...
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I do agree!
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The show runs from Jan. 19th to the 22nd, so if there is no word before then, I'm sure you will have an answer after the 19th. ;D
I just spent my R-45 money on a Kimber Ultra CDP, after hearing that they would not be out anytime soon.
John
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I believe that the failure of our forum "elders" to address this matter speaks volumes. Is it possible that the problem is financial? Please understand, this is an opinion and not any inside info, nor is it gratuitously critical of the factory.
These are hard times, money is tight and start up costs are huge. However, if this speculation were true, I would have a lot more respect for being told the truth instead of being provided a laundry list of excuses for what is clearly a highly anticipated and desired gun.
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I'll just patiently wait. Nothing else to do.
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Should be interesting!
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As many of us are dying for the new best 45 ccw on the planet, one thing to keep in mind; compared to last year, there was no reliable R380 yet. Now there is, along with the ongoing R9 as well.
Has the labor doubled at the factory? I doubt it. I would be surprised if it increased 10-20%, if at all.
I'm sure their hands are full with regular production, and now just getting ready for the shot show. The R45 is not only too overwhelming at this point, but probalby an impossibility.
Guys, this is a small company that does a LOT of things right. And much better than most.
Lets let them catch their breath and move at their own pace.
When it's time, I'm sure it will be worth the wait.
Reinz
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I'm on board with those thoughts, wholeheartedly. As I stated, I'll be patiently waiting.
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Me too, waiting and shooting my new addition while I wait.
I can always sell the Kimber and they seem to hold there value quite well and the Ultra CDPs are harder to come by than some of the other models.
John
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Okay, guys; fair enough. I will back off but please understand that I was not trying to be unfair and I stand by what I said as to start up issues, et al.
My fall back position is that my Robar R9s is saving me a lot of money by making me so content, I am not interested in buying another gun, (except the R45). Well, maybe the long barrel version of the Boberg, but that seems to be around the same time as availability of the R45!
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ACP, I agree. I'm content as well; that's why I can be patient.
John. Congratulations on the Kimber. Just keep the R45 in your sights for when it comes.
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As one of the ones who sent in a deposit... I can wait. I think part of the problem might be on what to build. I'd like a version of the current pistol but large enough to handle a 45, and w. a good front sight -- and, that's going to be hard to differentiate from offerings by Sig, Glock, Colt, etc.
Personally, I've been carrying a P226 as my primary, and will probably switch to my P220 when my shoulder holster for it comes in.
The only thing I'd really like to know is what's the projected price range of the R45 -- if it's too high, I will have to set aside some money for it, specifically.
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I also hope it is the one tone finish. I'll, of course, take it either way. Just my wish.
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Since we are dreaming at this point I concur with one tone R45. It would compliment my Robar R9s.
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Now let's talk Rohrbaugh into making it that way.
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I haven't been around much lately, but I thought there was supposed to be a R45 prototype at the last Shot Show if I recall correctly. I am definitely interested in a R45, but it would probably have to be a metal framed gun in order to make it concealable enough while still having the strength to handle 230gr. ammo, (hopefully +P too).
I'm still waiting for a stainless framed R9 that can handle +P. Kahr's PM45 is too large for pocket carry, unless you have a large coat pocket, so the gun hasn't really interested me. I hope the R45 is smaller.
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Psycho: If you consider the origin of this string you will see that it was my goal to force some sort of reponse that would be definitive as to the R45 status. (Didn't work).
As to (R9) SS frame; good luck. Defintely a great idea but it is a matter of cost. Aluminum castings and finishing operations are a fraction of the cost of SS. Titanium would be a better idea than SS frame but that, again, is cost prohibitive.
A SS frame, (or titanium), for the R45 for the reasons you mention above? How would I know?
We have dealt elsewhere in this forum as to the +P R9 capability and I concur with those who point out the barrel length of the R9 as rendering the need for +P irrelevant.
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I agree about the barrel length making it not really worth it, but all of my ammo is +P, so not being able to fire ammo from my main gun, or ammo stash in the R9 is annoying.
What I would like to see out of the R45 is something like the AMT Backup Hardballer .45, only smaller and more refined (obviously ;D ).
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Maybe they could use Scandium, like S&W doe's, light and strong.
John
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I handled procurement contracts in my career for aluminum and titanium castings, as well as SS forgings, but I honestly don't know what scandium is; apart from S&W's useage of it for their lightweight guns.
I don't like the lightweight Smith guns. First, there is no "heft". It doesn't feel like a gun. Further, I found +P revolvers very uncomfortable to shoot.
By contrast, I find the R9 enjoyable to shoot and nothing is more satisfying than a nice hollow point .45ACP going out of my Glock 36. Well, okay, there are more satisfying things in life but not on this forum.
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Maybe carrier landings?
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tracker: Touche'; you the man, but I was thinking of something a little more amorous.
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Well, in response to the original post, I can continue to assure everyone that the R-45 will not be at the SHOT Show in any form -- prototype or otherwise. This comes right from the top.
In point of fact, the R-brothers are not that far along. While work is being done on the R-45 concept, its not anything ready for prime time. Maybe SHOT 2011...
When the factory is ready to release more info on the R-45, you will hear it here first.
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Thanks for the update, and glad I got the Kimber it is a very nice shooting gun, and easy to CC in an OWB.
John
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Well, in response to the original post, I can continue to assure everyone that the R-45 will not be at the SHOT Show in any form -- prototype or otherwise. This comes right from the top.
In point of fact, the R-brothers are not that far along. While work is being done on the R-45 concept, its not anything ready for prime time. Maybe SHOT 2011...
When the factory is ready to release more info on the R-45, you will hear it here first.
Now we know. Thanks for the update as well.
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I have mine... Tom
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Some have all the perks!