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Offline geminidan

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« on: December 06, 2005, 05:39:45 PM »
I am selling a Kahr p9, and I want to get a Glock for the range, house and boating. I will not be using this gun as a carry piece,,,,,,,,,, I am considering the Glock 34 or the 17!!!! Does anyone have either of these two choices??? and I have big hands so which would be more comfortable to shoot..Also the fact that the 34 model has a cut out on top of the slide, would this cause any problems??? I have been told that the 34 is a target/tactical model with their newest enhancements??? Any help is appreciated.

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Offline WoodstockDoug

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Re: Advice
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2005, 06:02:40 PM »
I have a Glock 17.  It is fantastic.  I also have the KelTec Sub2000 folding carbine, that uses the same 17 round magazines as the Glock -- very nice to be able to swap them.

The Glock is pretty big for concealed carry, but it is the perfect gun for the night stand.  I added the Glock tactical light/laser to mine, and when I'm sleeping it is always within reach.

Erik Chaffee ( http://www.chaffeearms.com/ ) sold me mine (and my Rohrbaugh, and my 340PD) and I highly recommend doing business with him.  His prices have consistently beat my local gun dealers, even with shipping and FFL transfer fees.  Of course, gun dealers here are few and far between... other places probably have more, and more competition, and better prices.  

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Re: Advice
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2005, 10:39:21 AM »
I have the 26,19,& 17. I like the 26 the best for truck gun and the 19 best for nitestand. 17 is in the safe. All shoot good and are accurate and dependable. The reason the 17 is not in the nitestand is because it is a 1rst gen. and does not have a rail for tac. lite.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2005, 08:07:10 PM »
>>Like Newt...I have Glocks 17, 19, and 26...and I also favor the 26.  One reason being it is the most concealable of the three, but you can put in the higher capacity clips from the 17 & 19.  I keep the 17 with two 17 round clips and attached light in a quick access safe on my bed.  The 26 is a primary carry gun.  And I have yet to figure out where the 19 belongs as I just recently got it and have thus far have only enjoyed shooting it at the range.  You can't go wrong with any of these guns, but for personal defense I would go with either the 26 or 19...TW<<


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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2005, 10:26:12 PM »
I own the 22, 36, and, recently, the 19. I like them all for
different reasons; recently installed an ISMI spring and
steel guide rod on the 19--highly recommended to replace
the plastic guide rod.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2005, 12:35:25 AM »
I do not need any more "carry guns" just a great range gun, next to bed gun, and possibly out fishing on boat...glock 34 seems to have a great reputaion, and is great for the range and self defense tactical for the home............Will be changing guide rod, and putting on a set of tru-glo.tritium/fiber optic sights........geminidan
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2005, 09:10:27 PM »
Will the boat be on salt or fresh water?  How corrosion resistant are glocks?  Also, if you're really concerned it may be better to have something a bit heavier on a boat.
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2005, 11:01:37 PM »
Something maybe like a Barrett 50 calibre?

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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2005, 10:31:43 AM »
If I was out in open water, I would also go with the .50cal!!
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2005, 11:33:00 AM »
Boat weapon= 870 marine magnum & ar15 w/hicaps! :o
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2005, 08:37:30 PM »
This is from http://www.topglock.com/info/faq.htm

Can I shoot my Glock underwater?

Just about any handgun will fire underwater -- at least once. :-) However, firing underwater is NOT recommended because it can have devastating effects on the pistol and the shooter -- a potentially dangerous activity that should only be utilized by trained personnel wearing proper equipment for protection against potential pressure wave effects of underwater detonation. The shock/pressure waves in water can really damage internal organs (ever heard of lithotripsy?). Shooting a pistol underwater can lead to property damage, serious bodily injury or even death.

NOTE: Glock, Inc., specifically disclaims any and all liability from anyone performing or attempting to perform underwater firing with a Glock pistol -- you do so at your own risk.

The Glock 17 may be equipped with an optional set of maritime spring cups for use in water environments. Maritime spring cups are not intended for submerged firing, but for surface use by special ops teams who operate in and around water. The maritime spring cups are two small parts within the firing pin assembly and are not included on any Model 17 sold by Glock (civilians can only get them through 3rd parties). They insure that water can pass by the firing pin within the firing pin channel, thus preventing the creation of hydraulic force within the firing pin channel -- which would slow the firing pin down, causing light primer strikes. With the special cups, the action will cycle reliably while submersed, if a little bit slower. NATO specification ammunition (such as Winchester's Ranger RA9124N) with waterproof sealed primers and case mouths is recommended.

Although you may install the maritime spring cups on any Glock model, *only* the Glock 17 was designed and intended to use the modified spring cups for aquatic firing -- and only then using 9mm ball ammunition to remain within acceptable pressure limits. The foolhardy who insist on living dangerously must keep several things in mind: The Glock 17 must be fully submersed underwater. There must not be any air left within the pistol as the muzzle is pointed towards the surface of the water after submersion to allow the air in the barrel to escape. Use only full metal jacket, ball-type ammunition because the water within the barrel can spread a hollow point out within the barrel upon firing. This increases the bearing surface of the bullet to the barrel and could catastrophically increase pressures. Even if the barrel doesn't burst, the expanded bullet would get even bigger upon exiting into the water and would slow down very quickly while tumbling. Accuracy would be terrible.

The marinized Glock 17 is primarily for use by various Special Warfare units operating in aquatic environments. At least one specialized Scuba diving group regularly uses G17's to dispatch sharks where they dive. The Glock 17 using NATO specification ball ammunition will completely penetrate a minimum of one 1/2" pine board at a distance of ten feet from the muzzle when fired underwater.


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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2005, 09:07:10 PM »
I'm really impressed, my brother and I had a talk last night and decided that we didn't think any semi-auto pistol would be able to cycle underwater -- we figured out the pressure=bad idea correctly though -- he was all hot after the idea to try to shoot things underwater w. his Glock -- or at least try to rig something to see if it will work.

Yes, my choice of a boat gun is an M60 -- and as soon as I get old and switch from race boats to a cruiser -- preferrably a ketch or a schooner -- I'm getting one.
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