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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: R9SCarry on May 24, 2004, 01:48:45 AM

Title: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: R9SCarry on May 24, 2004, 01:48:45 AM
Just one other thing to think about.

As with any very small piece ... access to it is important ..... by which I mean speed of retrieval ... or if from holster per se .. speed of draw.

I strongly recommend those with an R9 to pay close attention to not just how they carry it but ...... how fast and efficiently you can get it into play.  I am practicing with access from pocket (holsterless) .... access from pocket with the K&D pocket holster and .... access from the belt rig (K&D also) .... which still needs broke in a bit.

On balance I will prefer to draw from belt rig ... it is way more instinctive for me .... but I find some practice even with that method is essential.  It's one thing to have just about the smallest 9mm package there is ..... but another to be able to bring it into play quick enough.

Practice - as ever - essential.
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: flyandscuba on May 24, 2004, 03:03:29 AM
Pocket holster carry for me.  My mode of normal dress (business casual) limits my options.  Ankle holsters, belly bands, underwear carriers, etc. are a poor choice in my opinion.  Belt carry isn't a good option for this gun for me.  If I'm dressed in a way that provides concealment of a belt rig, it will be with a larger weapon -- such as my HK P7.  The R9s will take the place of my KT P-3AT as a back-up in that situation..... as primary, when it is all I'm carrying.
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: GeorgeH on May 24, 2004, 08:00:37 AM
Typically, I will carry my Rohrbaugh in a pocket holster, but I intend to get several belt and IWB holsters also.
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: DDGator on May 24, 2004, 08:43:47 AM
Pocket carry is my preferred method.  There are pluses and minuses for sure.  I detailed them all in an article I wrote in this month's Concealed Carry Magazine.  I will try to host the article somewhere on the web so I can link to it and you guys can read it.

One thing about pocket carry -- it may be a bit slower, but you have the advantage of a very casual "at ready" condition.  You can have your hand in your pocket in a near firing grip and look non-threatening -- giving you a real head start if you need it.  Everybody knows what you are doing when you reach under your shirt to your 5:00.
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: RJ HEDLEY on May 24, 2004, 10:04:06 PM
I think no one can have a worst problem with their CCW than the folks in Ohio.  I can't quote the law verbatim, but it's something along the lines of this.  When carrying with a CCW, in a vehicle, the weapon must be IN PLAIN SIGHT !  So pocket carry is not allowed when in a vehicle  ??? ???
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: GeorgeH on May 25, 2004, 08:10:31 AM
You are right RJ. When in an auto, the holstered bun must be in plain sight. It was requested by the Ohio Highway Patrol.

It shows me that building police stations along a freeway isn't a bright idea--too many fumes affecting their brain.

I very dumb idea--an accident waiting to happen.
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: DDGator on May 25, 2004, 02:00:02 PM
Great way to scare the sheeple too.  

That is bad from every perspective -- from tactical to common sense.   Great way to make you a target and escalate a confrontation.

Again -- the only people with guns hidden from view will be the people that you have to worry about to start with.

Dumb.
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: pocketman on May 25, 2004, 03:57:57 PM
What is concealed carry magazine? is it a new publication?
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: DDGator on May 25, 2004, 04:45:31 PM
Yes, it is a "grassroots" magazine -- not one of the big publishing houses.  You can read about it at www.concealedcarrymag.com

The subscription price is a bit high, but these guys are trying to get a start and make a go of this thing.  E-mail them and they will send you a sample issue -- probably the one with my article!

Tim Schmidt, the editor, is a very nice guy and I really hope they succeed.

Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: pocketman on May 25, 2004, 05:23:28 PM
 8)

I will do that.

I have alway's wondered why there was not a publication on exactly that! concealed carry,,,
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: flyandscuba on May 25, 2004, 07:32:05 PM
Thanks for the "heads up" on this publication.  I've ordered my introductory issue!
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: Meggacatz on May 26, 2004, 10:33:39 PM
Here in west central FL it's sometimes difficult to carry and not "sag" or "print." I usually wear cotton shorts without a belt. A quality pocket holster is going to be needed. I could carry a P32 loose behind my thin wallet in my front pocket. But the P32 belt clip is sometimes even a better option. I haven't carried my R9 on the street yet because of some extraction/feed problems (not as reliable yet as I hope it can be). I expect to carry my R9 in a pocket and a P32 as a second.
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: R9SCarry on May 26, 2004, 11:40:12 PM
Meggacatz .. hey ...... welcome! :)

The ''Concealed carry'' magazine ... I like it a lot.  After the trial first issue i signed for 2 years . expensive it is but ... I have been in otuch with Tim and he seems a very likeable guy.  I'd like them to succeed and so feel that for a coupla years they need all the support they can get.

Daunting venture - new publications........ look forward to next issue.  Duane .. enjoyed your write up in March/April issue.
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: DDGator on May 26, 2004, 11:58:55 PM
Thanks R9SCarry!  

Yes, the editor Tim Schmidt is a nice guy.  If you are the kind of person who would buy an R-9 because you like the Rohrbaughs and their company, you should definitely subscribe to Concealed Carry Magazine.  Do you understand what I mean?
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: R9SCarry on May 27, 2004, 12:10:26 AM
Quote
Do you understand what I mean?
100% my friend .... as you can see!  Just where I'm comin from! ;)
Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: GeorgeH on May 27, 2004, 01:32:51 AM
For my "always" gun, I'm into deep concealment. Every day, I carry at least one pistol in my right rear pocket in a pocket holster. It looks like a wallet from the outside and I've never been "made" carring a firearm there during the last 19 years or so.

Rear pocket carry may not be the most ideal place to carry a primary firearm, but it is a great place to park a BUG, or a place to carry when dress, weather, or circumstance makes other forms of carry unpractical.

Title: Re: ''The draw'' ..... with an R9
Post by: flyandscuba on May 27, 2004, 11:21:04 AM
I prefer front pocket carry over rear pocket -- simply because you can stage your hand on your weapon when in questionable areas...  Such as pumping gas at a convenience store late at night, or walking to the car in the Walmart parking lot late at night -- it doesn't look odd to have my hand in my front pocket, and no one knows what's there (currently a P-3AT).

I've got one of DDGator's convertable holsters for my P-32, but always use it in the front pocket rather than rear.  RJ Hedley's holster is fitted for my P-3AT and is always in my front pocket.

Having the R-9s will be a great addition -- it too, will be front pocket carry.