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Administration => Forum News and Feedback => Topic started by: littleguns on June 01, 2010, 03:57:32 PM
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I just took the plung. Stealth with sights. It is a good day, however i won't have this gem in my hands until Thursday. The other good new is that I happened accross some 9mm Critical Defense ammo at my local gun shop. Please give me advise on ammo and break in. Ordered some GD 115 gn from Cabelas on sale for 18 bucks a box.
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littleguns. I wouldn't recommend the Hornady Critical Defense at this time. They had some problems with hard primers on certain lots. Some here on the Forum have had good results and others have not.
Recommend Winchester Silvertips 115 gr. and Gold Dots 115 gr. as you have ordered.
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You answered my question before I could IM. I did pick up the CD ammo inspite of problems I heard about. The lot number on the boxes where defferent then ones I could remember form dicussions. The stuff is just so dam hard to get. Cabelas 14 week wait. I had some 380's on back order for quite a long while. I learned that Corbon had a special 80 gn 9mm especially made for the R9. But I can't find it. In any case I will give a report once I get this baby to the range.
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I have delt with getting the gun then the correct ammo (GD, silver tips, CD and WWB for practice. Now researching holters. Ken let me know about Meco holsters, which look like a very nice option. I have carried in a Pager pal, which was great for LCP, Also EZ paddle hide in plain sight holster, and front pocker with a nemeses. All with lighter guns. I would welcome any experience or advise on holsters for CC.
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You cant go wrong with a MECO. The R9 needs nice leather.
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I will order a pocket holster from Meco. Not sure on the wait. I ordered some Hornady one shot lub from cabelas. I understand that is Karls rcommendation. FYI R9s in stock where I bought mine.
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littleguns. I ordered a cross draw from Meco on 4/22/10 and Robert gave me a 10 to 12 week waiting time. Talked to him about two weeks ago and he said it should be coming up soon.
The wait time passes very quickly.
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One question about pocket holster from Meco. Is it large for some front pockets. Utilizing the back pocket holster in front?
Just curious.
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For me, it fits all my front pockets. Regular long pants for fall and winter, nothing special, and Bermuda shorts in the summer with deep pockets. I've never bought anything special to wear just to satisfy the holster. Everything just seemed to fit. Walmart and K-Mart type Bermuda's.
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Just picked up my Stealth local FFL, Its a beauty. Now off to the range to check it out. WWB, American Eagle, CD, GS and GD. Hoping for a great first experience.
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littleguns, good for you, have fun shooting it. Tom
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Just picked up my Stealth local FFL, Its a beauty. Now off to the range to check it out. WWB, American Eagle, CD, GS and GD. Hoping for a great first experience.
Excellent. You're going to enjoy the little wonder, for sure!
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Ok now I am getting the hang of it. I have been to the range twice (in two days). I must say I like the gun very much. However it is a weapon that you must know well. Not a S&W 38 for sure. I tried several different rounds. In total about 200 fired. noticed the spring was quite compressed during my second cleaning and was replaced. The rounds I used were Hondady Critical defense, WWB 147 Gn HP self defense, american eagle 115 gn and Speer GD. The gun likes what it likes. 50 rounds of WWB HP and 40 rounds Speer GD were Flawless in both sessions. The others had FTF and FTE problems. I am getting some Siver tips delivered soon. I think my round of chose will be the GD for now.
Was able to get some accuracy at fifty feet. The trigger was very nice and kick was not too bad. Rapid fire was not a problem. In buying this gun I was wanting to replace my Small Revolver using 38 +P. Which I beleive I did. With a smaller stonger package. Very pleased, it sits well in the pocket and can use the LCP holsters I own.
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I'm glad that you and your "pup" are getting along as intended.
You state it correctly that the R9 "is a weapon that you must know well." And if I may be permitted to paraphrase an observation once posted by Tracker which I found memorable, the R9 is a gentleman's weapon rather than a plowman's tool. 8)
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littleguns. Excellent that you are getting to know your R9 Stealth. The right ammo is key, for sure. Continue to enjoy "getting the hang of it". It doesn't take long.
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littleguns,
I like the way you are going about your testing, using multiple brands and weight bullets. I did the same thing and continue to try different ammo in my pup, I have found nothing it will not shoot reliably.
It is always good to have a reliable backup brand of ammo for your carry gun in the event you can't get your first choice brand.
John
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Thank you all for the support. It has all been helpful. It seems the "hard Primer " situation has been identified by Rohrbaugh and they are giving good advise o n ammo chose. With one type of ammo (american eagle I had a couple of FTE. The rounds in the box were spotty looking, sort of tarnished. I wonder if that played a roll in the problem. Perhaps casings were swollen or out of round from mosture. Other then that one box of ammo I only had FTF due to hard primers with CD and GS. Something I was well warned about in advance. In any case I will try some new WWB for plinking and GD and silver tips for carry. Not sure if this gun requires a break in. I did notice the final 50 rounds fired had no problems regardless of ammo. Think I will be ordering a few springs soon. FYI the EZ carry pouch for LCP works well with the R9 and carries a spare mag. Also the smart carry for the LCP seem to do well. I still have not decided exactly how to carry this gun. In summer I find i need my pants pockets for other things. May use IWB. Would like to hear ideas on carry.
Thanks
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Well, hopefully, soon, I will be trying out a cross draw from Meco as I posted earlier, for use in the vehicle. I can't get the gun out of my pocket while sitting in the car or truck. IWB would be a good option for other than pocket carry, I would think. Meco can do that, too!
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I was on Meco's website and I didn't see a cross draw. Is he making it special? Cross draw seems like a good idea, would love to see one. I was at the local gun shop today looking at holsters. The closest I could find was a deep IWB holster for the small springfield, seemed big for the R9. I also picked up some Winchester Supreme Elite ammo. Guess its there good stuff. I think I will be in need of a spring soon. Any idea on how long it will take to get some from Rohrbaugh?
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I don't think he shows one on his website yet but here is a picture of one that was shown here today http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Accessories;action=display;num=1248451537;start=45#45
I dont think the snap is in the position MECO normally puts them. I think it was requested to be custom made where it is in those pictures.
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I was on Meco's website and I didn't see a cross draw. Is he making it special? Cross draw seems like a good idea, would love to see one. I was at the local gun shop today looking at holsters. The closest I could find was a deep IWB holster for the small springfield, seemed big for the R9. I also picked up some Winchester Supreme Elite ammo. Guess its there good stuff. I think I will be in need of a spring soon. Any idea on how long it will take to get some from Rohrbaugh?
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Robert is making it special or at least like DaninVA's. Robert has named the holster "Dan The Man" except mine is for a Seecamp.
Don't know how long it will take to get springs from Rohrbaugh. I would think it would be fairly quick. Just a guess.
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Great report
Today I went to the outdoor range even though it was raining. I received Silver tips in the mail yesterday and was excited. I showed up armed with GD, ST, WWB, and Winchester Supreme. 150 rounds shot with no failures. Plus achived a fairly small group from 7 yards. I consider it a success. The gun works great once you understand it. I now have confidence in it. I spoke with Marie yesterday regarding new springs and screews. No new word on the 45 cal. I figured i would ask. But it is still a live idea. I remain on the fence with carry options. I think I was spoiled by LCP's weight. I think I like the pager pal for this gun. Its wieght is supported by the belt but it is invisible to the eye far below the waist. Pocket carry bulky, IWB uncomfortable, OWB too visible. I don't know I am just whinning now. This from a guy who wore a 21 oz Revolver IWB for twenty years. And that was the small gun. In any case I love this unique little blaster and will carry it for years to come.
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Sounds like another happy R9 owner. :D
I pocket carry most of the time, and OWB the rest, I don't have an IWB holsters for any of my guns.
John
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Well, littleguns. Looks like a proficient day at the range and to your confidence. Glad everything is coming together. :)
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Hello again
Been out of touch a while hope all are well. However still enjoying this great little gun. I am occassionally reverting back to the LCP while in my sleepy little town. Nothing disapears in sweatpants like it. However the R9 is number one if any risk is involved or normal clothes are worn. I just received the Guru pocket holster. It is like a back pocket holster, however the solid backing is removable. Making it more of a front pocket holster. I like it this way. It dosen't really print as a gun like many other holsters. It gives a square impression in the front pocket without the bulk of the extra flap. I ended up going with the Winchester Silvertips as a carry round thanks to my experience with it plus good advise from Ktrains and others.
I have a question about Glaser safety round. Has anyone used them in the R9, any feed problems, etc?
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littleguns. Thanks for the update, and glad you like the Winchester Silvertips; also the Guru pocket holster. Don't have any experience with Glaser safety rds. Continue to enjoy!
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I did some research on the Glasers. Aparently they are better in revolvers. May have difficulty racking the slide in some autos. I was worried about over penetration with the 9. Thinking to have one Glazer in the pipe backed up with ST. More reseach to do on this. Did you ever get your Cross draw holster?
Thanks again
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Littleguns:
The 9mm Glaser Safety Slug is a +P round. Don't load it in your R9.
http://www.dakotaammo.net/Glaser-Safety-Slug/9mm-Luger--Plus-P-80gr-Glaser/01000-01200/500/Product
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Yep! I did. It's for the Seecamp. It really does the job; perfect angle, while sitting in the vehicle.
(http://s575.photobucket.com/albums/ss197/kjtrains/Ken%20holster/072.jpg)
(http://s575.photobucket.com/albums/ss197/kjtrains/Ken%20holster/073.jpg)
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Wow nice looking holster. The seeecamp 32 is nice and small must be pretty good in the waist band. Car Jackers beware. Wouldnt mind getting one for my Micro Eagle. Richard S thanks for the warning about the +P, thats a real no no for the R9. I wonder if there are any alternatives for over penetration with the R9, just a thought. Concerned about apartment living etc.
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Here are some thoughts from Forum members on frangible ammo. Just for info.
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=R9S;action=display;num=1104469206;start=8#8
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Great food for thought, Just what I needed. Will look into the frangable type in non plus P. What about a 9MM blank for a first round. Perhaps an option other then leaving the pipe empty, think they call it condition three carry. Could always rack it out or fire twice if need be. Again just thoughts for safey.
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Just my thinking, that first round is too important to be a blank and time is critical in a defense situation. You won't have time to be thinking and you don't want any variables thown in. Again, just my thoughts.
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That is fair reasoning. No way to predict every senario. Just keep it simple. Point and shoot. Still like the idea of a glaser type first round. Feel many confrontation will end within that first shot. Cause a flight and not fight response once they know its for real, even in the case of an attacking dog or BG with a knife. Also accidental discharges almost always involve only one shot.
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Great food for thought, Just what I needed. Will look into the frangable type in non plus P. What about a 9MM blank for a first round. Perhaps an option other then leaving the pipe empty, think they call it condition three carry. Could always rack it out or fire twice if need be. Again just thoughts for safey.
A blank for the first shot will not cycle the slide, auto's rely on the pressure created by the bullet. No bullet no cycle.
John
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That is fair reasoning. No way to predict every senario. Just keep it simple. Point and shoot. Still like the idea of a glaser type first round. Feel many confrontation will end within that first shot. Cause a flight and not fight response once they know its for real, even in the case of an attacking dog or BG with a knife. Also accidental discharges almost always involve only one shot.
Keep it simple is a good motto. Excellent.
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Once again good advise from all. Carried the "pup" today for the entired day. Driving, walking in urban environment, etc. Used new pocket holster, it was all good. Couldn't say I forgot it was there like a Kel Tec but also felt i had the confidence of a real gun and bullet. It will be easy to live with. Felt ok sitting at dinner. None of the pinching once felt with the IWB 38 snubby. I have faith in the 9mm, this weapon answers many questions. Home defense, carry, travel. If I had to chose only one weapon to own this would have to be it. Although I would certanly miss my G19. :-/
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Glad it's working out, littleguns. Continue to enjoy.
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Happy 4th all
I have become interested in the "Pocket Slipper" laser sight gizmo for the R9. It is listed on the Rohrbaugh website. I would assume it has their endorsement. This devise attaches to the bottom of the gun giving it a square wallet like print in the pocket, plus it come with the only laser sight avalible for the R9 that I know of. I became interested in this because I like a similar wallet type set up for the LCP. The dimenions are almost exact for the two guns, even in width for pocket carry while using the pocket devises. So does anyone have an opinion or experience on the pocket slipper? it lists for 149.00.
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littleguns, forget it and keep it simple, point to center of mass and shoot. Tom
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I agree with Tom,had one for my Seecamp..
Interesting "Toy",but I found it unsafe to put in ones pocket with the trigger exposed! :o
That is a no-no with a pocket pistol..
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Yeah must admit the exposed trigger in the pocket makes me a bit nervous. Fumbling for keys, etc. Not that I would intensionally but keys in same pocket, but could easily happen by mistake. I also wonder how fast you can get a good grip with this devise. The similar devise on my LCP takes getting use to.
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Just my thinking, but I like a holster, and like Tom states, keep it simple.
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The only issue I have with a laser is it's one more thing to possibly fail in time of need. I got rid of all of mine on my carry guns.
John
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This is my personal rule, nothing more.
I will not carry a pocket pistol unless its trigger is covered by a holster while the pistol is in the pocket. "Stuff" happens, and the sheer embarrassment of shooting myself in the leg, foot, or "private parts" would be almost as painful as the wound itself. ::)
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I totally agree, Richard. Got to have the pocket gun in a holster; an excellent personal rule.
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I guess its unanimous, now I am starting to re-think my LCP wallet rig. Is there any talk of a laser for this gun? Would be great is low light situation. In any case thank you all for the input, all solid thoughts. The NYPD had a philosophy about keeping things simple. Wouldn't even give us speed loaders for our revolvers for the longest time. However they were correct, stick to the basics, take cover, point and shoot. No fancy tricks or gizmos.
And Richard that sounds painful :-[
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littleguns, adding a laser to a R9 looks good? and could work a thousand times in practice. But when the chips are down and it's for real and the laser doesn't work, the time loss could be costly. Tom
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Tom
I see your point. You may become conditioned to using the laser for sight alignment. Then if it fails it could cause a deady hesitation. Sort of feel lost without it for a second or two. Something to consider for sure.