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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: yankee2500 on September 22, 2009, 11:18:35 PM
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Well I have some good news. I made it to the machine shop today and they can make the mag extensions. I don't have one of the hooked models to show them so that one will have to be done from a picture and may take a little longer to work up.
I would like to hear from anyone intrested in them and what there preferance is, the flat model or the hooked model, that way I can let them know how many of each for a starting point.
As far as the price it is not all worked out because of the lack of one of the hooked models to work from, but the flat model will be no more than the IDM units were.
I will keep everyone posted on the progress.
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/R9flatblack1.jpg) (http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/R9hookedblack1-1.jpg)
John
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Put me down for a hooked one.
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might be interested
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John. I'd be interested in a hooked one as well. Thanks for getting this started.
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Interested in hooked only.
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Anyone with any intrest in these let me know which style you would prefer so I know what quantity to have them make of each.
So far it seems the only intrest is for the hooked style.
This is only to gauge intrest in the two models, and no one is commited to anything.
Thanks
John
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Hooked for me.
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I want a hooker. Er, a hooked one that is. ;D
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4 hooked ones please
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2 Hooked for me as well!!!
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Please put me down for two hooked extensions.
Thanks very much.
Jordan
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I'll take four hooked extensions.
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2 hooked for me.
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4 hooked for me!
Jim
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Likely ...
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Please reserve two hook style for me. Thanks! And thanks for taking on and staying with this project. It's appreciated.
Regards, Quiet1
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John. Increase my interest from one to two hooked. Thanks.
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By the response it seems there is no intrest in the flat model, so I don't know if there is much point in having any made.
I have another meeting with the mfg. on Monday to iron out some more of the details. I will keep everyone posted when I have more info.
John
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have ypu considered making a + extension like glock, kel-tec, mec-gar, etc? I would be interested in an extension that added a round or two to the magazine and im sure others would be interested as well....seems silly to waste space. :D
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That is a great thought but the mag release is on the bottom as opposed to the other guns you mentioned. There is not enough real estate for a mag capacity extension, unless I am missing something.
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Look at an extended single column magazine for a Walther P-38, Helwan Brigadier, Beretta 951, or the double column magazine on an HK VP70/Z. They all have the same heel mount. The trick is to create a "bump" or protrusion on the tube exterior so the latch will catch or indentation.
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Have a go at it.
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It may be something to look into after this is worked out, but my feeling is the amount design work and machining is going to drive the cost up, and would require a new mag spring.
John
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two hooked for me please.
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I would be interested in 2, hooked if available.
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"HOOK me up!" (qty 2 please)
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Put me down for two hooked ones.
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The "hooks" have it.
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Yankee,
Thanks for a job well done!
Put me down for a pair of the "Hooked" model.
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I also will take two
Thanks
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mveedell, welcome to the group, and hope you enjoy your Rohrbaugh.
John
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I'll take 3 hooked mag extensions, maybe 4 depending on final cost. Thanks for doing this.
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What finish will be used for the black on the extensions?
Seems like most cheaper finishes end up looking purple and that against a black frame looks poor in my opinion.
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I am looking into Duracoat in HK black or an anodized black finish. But need to get through the making of the extensions first ;D. It is going to take a little more work because I did not have a hooked one to show the mfg., only a flat one so they have to do more to work up the dimensions. The other factor will be cost.
John
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I'm in for one hooked. Thx!
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I am looking into Duracoat in HK black or an anodized black finish. But need to get through the making of the extensions first ;D. It is going to take a little more work because I did not have a hooked one to show the mfg., only a flat one so they have to do more to work up the dimensions. The other factor will be cost.
John
Is "Black Chrome" a consideration?
It's really beautiful when done right.
http://www.reliableplating.com/blackchrome.html
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I guess anything is possible, but until I get a firm price on the machining work, which wont be until the design work is done. I think I will hold off on too many options on the finish.
And it will be more cost efficient to have the finish done close to home to save on shipping cost and also turnaround time.
I'm sure just as I did with my pup you could send the extensions out and have what ever finish you want put on.
John
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I am interested in at least two of the flat style.
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I'd be interested in 2 hooked ones. Thanks
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I'm interested in 2 hooker-um extensions ;D
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Hook 'em Horns.
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Hook 'em Horns.
:P
??? ???
John
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I'm in for 4 hooked extensions
Thanks for getting these made
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I'm in for two of the flat extensions. Thanks.
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One flat bottom, and a hooker, please.
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I'm in for some as soon as they actually extend the capacity (if ever).
If I were to purchase some for any other reason: +1 on the midnight (black) chrome! I love that finish!
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I'm in for 2-4 of the hooked ones.
Any luck with the machinist?
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Yep, put me down for 2 hooked ones.
Amsterdam
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Yankee2500,
Are these still a "live issue"? If they are, do you have any estimate as to price and potential date available?
There seemed to be a pretty good response in terms of "pre-orders".
Regards, Quiet1
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It is very much alive, the shop has been quite busy.
I spoke with them today, they said they would have one made up for me to look at next week.
I will have a better idea of a potential date they will be available after I see the first unit and speak with them about the production schedule.
It looks like the price will be no more than the IDM units.
Upon inspection of the first unit I will post pics and will probably be looking for pre order deposits, based on the response I am looking at 60 + units that represents a sizeable cash outlay.
John
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John. Thanks for the news.
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I would like 2 hooked extensions; black is my preference. Thanks for doing this. I don't know what happened to IDM...
James
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As a follow-up to this, I was talking with Maria at the factory today (ordering grips, black screws and springs). I asked her about the possibility of Rohrbaugh selling mag extensions. She said they had considered that but were strongly against the concept for the following reason: The risk of an extension slowing a pocket draw.
Maria said they considered the idea of people having extended mags for use at the practice range and regular mags for carry but they were concerned that people might become "dependent" on the extensions and thereby be in possible trouble for the carry situation.
I told Maria that I still would really like to have the extensions and asked if she was taking feedback from users on the matter. She said she always took feedback but there was no active poll on this issue.
Maria asked that I NOT invite people on this forum to call her; her phone is too busy now. However, they are apparently getting a new email system installed (2-3 months) and after that, email polls will be possible.
I think, based on this thread, that a large number of people are voting "yes".
Can the sponsor of this thread (sorry, I can't look back for your name now) give us an approximate count of the number of users who have placed "interest" orders and the total number of extensions currently "ordered"?
Thanks again for making this option available. I will definitely shoot my Pup more with a mag extension than I do now and thereby will be better prepared for those events for which I train.
Even if Rohrbaugh disagrees with me on this mag-extension issue, they are sill the finest and most responsive gun company in the world!
Kind regards,
James
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It matters not to me whether Rohrbaugh offers a mag extension or not but if it is true that they discarded the idea because of slowing the pocket draw, that reasoning just doesn't hold water.
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James, I'm too lazy to go back and count the numberr of users but the number of extensions is 60+ for hooked and 4 for straight, the average is probably 2 per person. So ball park 32-34 people
John
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Great! That should be enough to get started... I'm lazy too; did you say anything before about when we might be placing "permanent" orders and when we might be able to have deliveries?
Thanks, James
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I will have a better idea of a potential date they will be available after I see the first unit and speak with them about there production schedule.
Upon inspection of the first unit I will post pics, and will probably be looking for pre order deposits, based on the response I am looking at 60 + units that represents a sizeable cash outlay.
John
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I would also be interested in 2 hooked extensions. +1 on the black chrome if possible...
Thanks for making this available to us.
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Oh, I hope this doesn't turn into an IDM'ish tease... Would you say the probability of this project coming to fruition is closer to 99% (notice I didn't dare say 100%) or to, say, 50%...
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110% I have a lot of time (and gas money) ;D into this, going back and forth to the shop, about a 60 mile round trip. The shop is producing the sample for my approval, upon inspection they will be ready to go or make some changes. They are doing it off some drawings we worked up because I could not come up with a hooked one to let them see, only a straight one.
John
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I'd hope that the price would be better than IDM charged. A guy on the Seecamp forum just produce extended Seecamp mag extensions for 38.00 and IDM was charging $48. With a volume purchase there should be a good discount.
Seems IDM was charging $10 more than this guy can make them for, so $10 less than IDM's $58 R9 extension comes out to be $48. That sounds good to me.
Thoughts?
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IDM was making the the extensions and selling them why they charged what they did I cant say. But I had to pay someone to do the design work and have to pay to have them made, then ship them to be anodized and pay for that and the anodize.
I'm doing the best I can, I called 15 to 20 places to get the best price on the anodize.
John
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I'd hope that the price would be better than IDM charged. A guy on the Seecamp forum just produce extended Seecamp mag extensions for 38.00 and IDM was charging $48. With a volume purchase there should be a good discount.
Seems IDM was charging $10 more than this guy can make them for, so $10 less than IDM's $58 R9 extension comes out to be $48. That sounds good to me.
Thoughts?
I just checked the the site for the Seecamp extensions and the $38 was a Pre Order Price, they are now $44
This is from the site for the Seecamp extensions.
This is a Pre-Order and they will be ready in 1week or less. **Pre-order over soon. I am shipping a few at this time.
The price will go up after the pre-order is over.
Other Items in SEECAMP *ORDER
Seecamp Mag Extension $44.00**
To update the R9 extension saga, I went to the shop today and they are writing the program for the CNC machine to make the extensions and hope to have one by the end of this week or first of next week.
I will update this when there is news.
John
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John--I'm sure whatever you'll be charging will be a fair price to cover your costs and your time and efforts to do this for all of us. These is no doubt that you won't be selling enough of them to retire on--even if you sell a hundred and make a few bucks on each, that's not a lot of money to compensate you for all your efforts to do everything you've had to do to get these made. And no one else has been willing or able to make these since IDM stopped their production.
To get a product that matches the quality of our Rohrbaughs is worth whatever it takes--$5 bucks either way won't deter most folks from ordering them from you when we've spent $1200 on our pistols.
Let us know when you're ready to accept deposits or payments.
Thanks!!!!!
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jetboater, thanks for the support and understanding what goes into a project like this.
John
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I expect to make a profit in my business and for my time, you should do the same and I'll be happy to buy. I'm sure this is what you are doing but please lean toward quality, price is second place to quality.
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I expect to make a profit in my business and for my time, you should do the same and I'll be happy to buy. I'm sure this is what you are doing but please lean toward quality, price is second place to quality.
What he said.
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I spoke with the shop today, and they hope to have one for me to look at next week. Unfortunately this is not a very large job and has to be worked on when they can. Once we have the first one done the rest won't take long.
John
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John. Seems like it's moving along.
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John,
I'm sure you are planning to really test the mag extension to ensure all works perfectly?
Perhaps using it to run a mag or two through your pup and ensuring that you can't pull the extension off the mag.
This would be desirable information for perspective buyers.
I'm currently using some Pearce extensions that I've modified. I'm very interested in getting some of yours as I know that will look way sweeter than the pearce ones.
Thanks for all your great work on this project, we all owe you!
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John,
Thanks for all the effort you have put into this project. Please put me down for two (2) of the hooked version.
Thanks again,
duckmtn
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duckmtn. Welcome to the Forum. I'm sure John will have some news on these soon.
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dukmtn, welcome to the group.
I had hoped to have one made by now, I spoke with them about a week and a half ago and was told they had a large job come in that bumped the extensions, :( but they were working on the CNC program for the extensions.
I plan to call this comming week for an update, I didn't bother last week with the holiday making it a short work week.
John
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I would be interested in two flat extensions. Thank you.
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Not to be a pest on this but is there an update? I'm ready to help kick-start our economy (should not take much more effort with the spending my wife is engaging in..) by buying 2 of these (hooked, of course).
By the way, can someone who is favoring a straight extension explain why that could be better than a hooked extension?
Joyous Christmas Season
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That is a great question, Chinook, as it makes no sense to me, either.
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I just like the looks of the straight extension. The normal grip is just fine for my small hands and I don't need any additional gripping surface.
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It's not a matter of grip; it's a matter of leverage. A hook allows you to maintain the grip with downward leverage to offset the gun's need to rise on recoil. I can shoot my pup with some accuracy but speed (between shots) is not there and if speed is there then accuracy is not. I'm really hopeful that a hooked mag extension will greatly increase my effectiveness with the pup.
Blessings
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I'm with you there, Chinook, but it's really to each his own.
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John, Please put me down for 2 hooked ones. Thanks Gene
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Gene, will do.
Here are the shop drawings of the extension, I'm going to call tomorrow and see if they can give me an idea of when they will start on the first pc.
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/R9ext002.jpg)
John
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John. Thanks for the drawings.
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I wish it were the first production peice and not a drawing, I called this afternoon to talk with the boss man at the shop and was told he went home after lunch because he is on anti biotics for Pneumonia, and the doctor told him to take it easy
for a few days. They thought he would probably be in Fri. but were not sure. I'll give a call tomorrow and see if he's in, other wise I will try on Monday. Will give an update as soon as I talk to him.
John
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John, please put me down for two hooked extensions.
Rich
(Corey's custom pup's new dad)
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CarolineDuke, welcome to the group. I am about an hour to an hour and a half from Charlotte. I live between Asheboro and Denton.
And congrats on the purchase of that fine pup. I have the sight dots on my pup also and a full Robar finish.
I will put you down for two of the hooked extensions.
John
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I spoke with the boss man at the shop today, he said they are getting cought up and hopes to start on the extension the first of next week. ;D Keep your fingers crossed.
John
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If my fingers were any more crossed, my blood circulation would be in jeopardy!
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Thanks for keeping us posted ...
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Thanks for the updates. Still interested in at least one of each to see which I prefer, then probably another of the preferred flavor.
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John,
Put me down for one each.
Mark
scar2783@yahoo.com
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Is it time for an update on this? I've been crossing my fingers since 12/16 and they're getting tired! I need to be able to uncross them soon so I can go to the range...
Joyous New Year to all
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I was holding off, there was not much to update with the Holidays causing short work weeks. I did speak with the shop last week and they hope to get a couple made this week, but I have posted that in the past.
As soon as I have some REAL GOOD NEWS, I will post it.
I had hoped to have the units available long before this, but,
I think now I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. :)
or is my flashlight facing the wrong way?
John
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Nice! 4 hooked ones for me...
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Put me down for two of each.
Thanks,
Robert
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This thread is approaching the length of "War and Peace"..
I can't remember if I actually ordered yet or not, but to be safe, put me down for 2 curved.
If you're actually keeping track of orders, you might put a list into a reply that gives names and numbers (so we will know what we've asked for)... That should push this thread onto pages 8, 9 and 10!
Go Texas!
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Put me down for two hooked also. thanks!
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I get a headache when I look at this thread. ;D
I have counted several times, and thought about printing it out, but have not done so yet. It will probably run my printer out of ink. :(
I'm waiting for word from the shop, then after I check the
three Fs, (finish, fit and function) it's off to deal with the place doing the anodize. (hopefully a quicker process)
I will update as soon as there is news.
John
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Thanks for making this available to us.
smtri. Welcome to the Forum. Great place!
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Put me down for two hooked ones.
Tucker. Welcome to the Forum. Come back often.
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Well I have some good news. I made it to the machine shop today and they can make the mag extensions. I don't have one of the hooked models to show them so that one will have to be done from a picture and may take a little longer to work up.
I would like to hear from anyone intrested in them and what there preferance is, the flat model or the hooked model, that way I can let them know how many of each for a starting point.
As far as the price it is not all worked out because of the lack of one of the hooked models to work from, but the flat model will be no more than the IDM units were.
I will keep everyone posted on the progress.
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/R9flatblack1.jpg) (http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/R9hookedblack1-1.jpg)
John
Hooked for me maybe 2
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fastgun. Put your order in on John's thread in the Classifieds here on the Forum. Thanks!
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I would also be interested in 2 hooked extensions. +1 on the black chrome if possible...
Thanks for making this available to us.
smtri. I missed welcoming you to the Forum, so welcome and post often. Much can be learned here, for sure.
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I would buy the curved one for sure.
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I would buy the curved one for sure.
grayfeathers. Put your order in on John's post (yankee2500) in the Classifieds if you want to order. Thanks.
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Classifieds;action=display;num=1264303965;start=