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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: MurrayNevada on January 16, 2009, 02:57:49 PM
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Just shot two boxes of the new Corbon 80gr DPX HP and my R9S didn't like them at all. FTF or FTE with every mag and three hard primers among the 40 shots fired.
Fired a couple of mags of Winchester Silvertips before and after the Corbon without problems (as usual) . Also had no problem with Federal 9BP 115gr. I'm sticking with the Silvertips. BTW ... My R9S is an early Farmingdale model Ser# R29X. Perhaps the newer Rohrbaugh models will like the new Rohrbaugh specific Corbon DPX better than mine did.
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That's news, I was just about to order some. Maybe I'll wait to see if others have the same problem. Thanks,
Rick
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I was actually just about to order some too. I had horrible luck with my r9s shooting a couple different types of rounds but never had issues with the 50 rounds of gold dot 124'grs ive shot through it...so far
my r9s ser # is R27**
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I, too, have an early serial # Farmingdale R9S. It was a bit ammo sensitive until I switched over to the new magazine springs and recoil spring. Since then my gun digests everything I care to load.
If you really like the new Corbon round, you might want to try those new springs. Personally, I'll stick with Speer Gold Dots and Winchester Silver Tips. Those Corbon DPX @ $1.75 per round are too rich for my Yankee blood. And I was getting stressed out when 9mm Gold Dots got to $21 / box of 20 rounds..... :-/
Steve
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.......never had issues with the 50 rounds of gold dot 124'grs ive shot through it...so far
my r9s ser # is R27**
124gr gold dots are also problem free with my R9S. I have some 115gr Hornady Critical Defense FTX on order. Testing of the new Hornady ammo looks promising.
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=786
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Unfortunately, unless I missed it, Hornady doesn't put the test barrel length in there. That stinks!!!!!!
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...... It was a bit ammo sensitive until I switched over to the new magazine springs and recoil spring. Since then my gun digests everything I care to load.
If you really like the new Corbon round, you might want to try those new springs.......
Steve
One of the mags the Corbons were unsuccessful in was just sent to me by Maria. I received it yesterday along with a few new recoil springs. I installed a new recoil spring before today's range session. New magazine and new recoil spring and it didn't like the C orbon at all.
Also, never has the hard primer issue with any other ammo.
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Murray,
Please give us a report on the Hornady FTX. Looks promising.
Thanks,
Rick
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My thoughts are this, if the Gold Dot and Winchester Silver Tip in 115 and 124 work great why switch? They both have good bullets. Tom
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Tom,
I agree with you, stick with the rounds that work well.
But looking for the ultimate round is a guy thing. In the same category as guys sitting in front of the TV and continually switching the channels.
A friend told his wife why he changes channels even when he finds a show he likes: It's to see what else is on!
Steve
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Not that I am a chronic cheapskate--there can't be many R-9
owners who fall in that category--but I think the TV remote
control will work for me. These helpful comments have
persuaded me to stick with what works, as Tom has said many
times, and maybe try one box of the Corbon 80 gr. DPX.
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tracker, yeah, why not try one box of the new Corbon 80 gr. Tom
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Winchester STHPs and Speer GDHPs are both fine rounds. I have carried Speer 115s in my pup since day one. As I am sure is the case with everyone else, I pray I am never in a situation where I need to shoot to stop a threat. However, if I ever am in that situation I want to be sure I have the most effective self defense round possible. Hornady has apparently identified a problem where the traditional HP can clog with fabric preventing it's expansion and allowing the round to pass through the threat. Hornady has apparently found an answer to this, and if the FTX is reliable in the R9 it would then be, IMHO, the more effective self defense round.
Rick
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I ran two mags of it and every other round was FTF or FTE. Maybe I exaggerate a bit, but it was ugly. I still think most of it could be my lousy grip and lack of control (limp wristing). I have a badly injured wrist form many years ago that won't build up... But I still found the rounds scary hard to shoot. I can shoot every other brand just fine without FT* anything ever. (yet)
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Its difficult to understand how corbon put a self defense round to market that is unreliable.
Could it be that there are significant variations from R9 to R9 that is the cause?
I'm having a hard time trying to understand why the Corbon round doesn't work. Teething problems?
Thanks
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I guess I'll cross off the Corbon DPX for now.
The Hornady FTX looks very interesting. When they become available, I'll try a couple of boxes. Hornady has a great reputation for innovation.
Steve
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If someone has an objective way to test these Corbon rounds and report to the forum I will be happy to UPS a box of this to a willing volunteer.
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I will be at the range tomorrow trying the R9 that I have. I will use all the remaining ammo that I have here at home.
Those of you that are having problems, please email me the lot numbers from the boxes you have.
Any of you that are having problems, please don't bother Karl with this. Send me an email and we can get your shipping information and issue a call tag from UPS. We will replace the ammo with some from our newest lot after it's been thoroughly test fired in several different R9 pistols.
Mike Shovel
National Sales Manager
COR-BON/Glaser
Mike@CORBON.com
412-496-0428
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thanks Mike Tom
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Good service. I like that.
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Yea, verily! That is impressive. 8)
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I have sent you an e-mail, Mike.
Having shot CORBON and Glasers for a long time, I have never had any issue ever. That is why I figured the FTEs were my fault...
Great customer service. Soon you'll be trying to hire Maria away from Rohrbaugh...
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Thanks for being easy on me! LOL
I will be out of town until the end of the week, but I will still be taking emails. I will find out Monday or Tuesday when the next lot of 9-80 DPX will be run. I'll keep everybody posted.
BTW, I went out and shot off the remianing 80 rds of the first lot we made. I had one stove pipe but it was the last shot on one of the magazines. We'll look into it and find the problem and get it straightened out.
Thanks,
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sounds great
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You can't ask for much better personal service than that!
Thanks to CorBon for stepping up on this issue. Wow!
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To Mike from Team Corbon,
Mike, did you get the e-mail with pictures I sent on Friday?
Mike
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To Mike from Team Corbon,
Mike, did you get the e-mail with pictures I sent on Friday?
Mike
Mike,
I did get an email from you on the 22nd but there are no pics attached.
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Mike,
I will re-send the pics. They may be helpful.
Mike
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Offered to mail the three remaining boxes that I have and all the brass that wouldn't feed. After multiple e-mails to Mike at Corbon over the last month, he said they would be issuing call tags. I have yet to hear.
Is there an address to which I can send this ammo to get it off my desk? I will gladly pay the shipping.
Thanks.
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Bump.
Still need address to return three boxes of ammo that does not work.Want it off my desk...
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I received a UPS call tag today.
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So that's where all the "smileys" come from?
Sorry to say, I've got to add today's range performance to the "unfavorable column." I'm just a novice but, I've been taking classes and shooting regularly for about a year and a half now -- and just love my R9! However, today's effort to "select" a personal defense round -- failed. I know on any given day, there are numerous factors that influence performance -- but, the 80gr DPX rounds just weren't happy. I had three "double-stuffs" (FTF) in only two clips; but my practice ammo (Remington 115gr JHP) -- worked like a champ.
Guess I'll keep lookin...
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welcome to the forum, enjoy. try Gold Dot 115 or 124, Winchester Silver Tips 115 or 124. Tom
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Welcome USAF_Retired. Other succesful ammo are Golden Sabres 147 gn. hp per Richard and ACP here on the Forum and Hornady TAP per ACP. Hornady Critical Defense has had success as well.
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USAF_Retired:
Welcome to the campfire! When you find the load which you and your R9 prefer, just stock up on a reasonable supply and you should be good to go until we get past this current ammunition shortage.
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It is almost two month since Corbon received the 80gr DPX I returned to them. Are they going to do something like send us new ammo or give us a credit, etc.?
Thank you
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I bought four boxes from Maria about six months ago. FINALLY got an address to return them to Corbon a while back. I included the shot brass /FTE/FTF.
HAVE HEARD NOTHING from Corbon.
Mike Shovel, if the 80 grains are an issue, just replace them with something (roughly equivalent value) I can shoot in my Glock 22C/27 and I will be happy. (glocks will shoot anything, even turds molded in the shape of bullets...)
Enough time wasted trying to remember to follow up on the four boxes of not inexpensive ammo. Every day, the price of ammo escalates...
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We rushed the 80 gr load out after they performed as we liked. Excellent terminal ballistics and functioned perfectly in our test gun (Rohrbaugh R9). All of the returned ammo we received back also fuctioned when fired thru our test gun??? We requested and received another test gun for future testing.
We are currently working on a load to replace the 80 gr. It will be a 95 gr standard pressure load. Terminal ballistics are the same. This load should function better from the R9 pistols. The main problem we're running into is lag time in getting R&D bullets and getting the performance where we want it. In the crazy ammo world today, everything is running slower due to the extremely high demand. I assure everybody that we are working as quickly as we possibly can on this.
Thanks,
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I think TeamCorbon's response is a reasonable one in which they admitted that demand is driving their priorities. This is not to say that 4 boxes of ammo that does not work, (and having waited over 2 months), is not frustrating.
I have first hand experience in production. It is marketing's role to appeal to their demographic at individual and collective levels. Production's ability to keep pace in a high demand environment is altogether a different matter. Thus, with all companies.
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I can appreciate the delays in this ammo-challenged time.
Combine the time that I waited to return it with a call tag that never came, the time and repeated (patient and respectful) attempts to get a confirmed address to ship it on my own, and no updates on the process throughout, and I have been rather patient for the WHOLE six+ months.
I knew going in that this ammo was (what we in the software business would call) "beta" release and was glad to commit my time to test it and provide a report and spent brass.
Updates here are a much more efficient vehicle than pestering Mike with individual e-mails from every concerned party. So I have watched the forum for updates all this time, before finally commenting yesterday.
And, I remain willing to try a box of the new load as a field test, once it is released. I think a controlled release of the new product in "alpha" form would save Corbon time and money.
We maintain 9 different software testing environments for essentially the same operating system (big iron, not PCs), and STILL have unexpected results when our software is released in the field - every time.
The key is communication and setting customer expectations.
So, I appreciate the update on Plan B, Mike.
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Slashspat:
Your ordeal is longer and more entailed than I realized. However, I stand by what I said as to what makes companies work: Quest for Revenue.
Let Corbon speak for themselves but their priority is meeting demand. I hope for your sake, and obvious patience, that Corbon steps up to the plate.
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02 August 2009 -- Since the "quest for revenue" seems to be precluding the development and testing of an alternative round for the R9, seems like it is time for Corbon to provide a replacement for the rounds returned. I made a good faith investment in Corbon by paying a pretty penny for four boxes of the 80s, just to try them. Eight months is long enough to make a Corporate decision as to the resolution.
I have other 9mm and .40 handguns, **ANY** replacement ammo would be acceptable and appreciated.
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Sorry to say Corbon dropped the ball on this by any reasonable standard. I would ask for my money back since Corbon specializes in hot rounds.
For me, I only shoot 147 grain bullets out of my R9. I am convinced that the heavier bullet facilitates slide travel. I bought 147 grain Golden Sabre and Hornady TAP when that was all that was available several months ago. In my area, 9MM shortage is over, and I am sticking with the winner bullet.
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Four months today since I returned the ammunition. I would think it reasonable if Corbon at least offered us a credit to purchase an equal dollar amount of ammunition of our choice through their website. It would be cheaper than returning our money and I'm sure many of us have found R9 ammo we are happy with over this long period of time.
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OK. I am ready to drop this and forget about the four boxes of ammo that I shipped back. Life goes on.
Note that my goal was to simply replace the returned ammo with ANYTHING 9mm or .40. If and when a 95gr. Corbon is birthed, we can re-engage...
Any final word of direction/guidance/hope/plans, Mike?
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Four months today since I returned the ammunition. I would think it reasonable if Corbon at least offered us a credit to purchase an equal dollar amount of ammunition of our choice through their website. It would be cheaper than returning our money and I'm sure many of us have found R9 ammo we are happy with over this long period of time.
Wait wait wait, so they took back/shipped back the ammo you bought to their office, shot it, said it worked fine and then haven't replaced it with anything nor offered a credit???
Wow, went from looking like great customer service to basic theft! I'll stick with my Gold Dots from now on vs doing business with a company like that!
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YET ANOTHER month has passed. No communications from Corbon. Last month's direct e-mail to Mike remains unanswered. Still down 4 boxes of expensive ammo...
Small resolution for a big company, I would think, given the flexibility that we have shown.
I suspect the R Brothers would not appreciate their customers being treated this way by Corbon, especially since I bought the ammo from their web site.
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This is unbeleivable to me. Mike from Corbon spoke proudly, (albeit a long time ago), then drops the ball.
Is business so good at Corbon that they can sustain all this bad publicity?
I smell boycott.
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I don't know about a boycott, but I don't smell any Corbon ammo going off...
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Never liked Corbon's product. Yes, I liked the extra "oomph" but I did not like their quality control. Way too many bullets setting back in the case for my taste. I know it wasn't one batch either; since I had a totally different lot number do the same thing.
I'll stick with ATK products (Federal LE, Speer and Speer LE) and Hornady for self defense rounds.
I had high hopes that Corbon could have produced a nice round and upped their quality control for the R9 and also for 32acp; but now I just cannot get motivated to try their product again with all this "hey we've got a good product, buy us and then disappear act" going on.
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Exactly 5 months ago today that I received the UPS call tag and returned my ammo to Corbon.
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It seems Corbons CS is 180 degrees from Rohrbaughs. They would have to make some major changes in there CS before I would endorse there products if I were Rohrbaugh.
John
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Still no answer from direct e-mail to Mike.
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I would fill his in-box with e-mails after this amount of time, and his voice mail.
John
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If I had been put off for five months, particularly after Mike tried to play hero months ago, I would be tempted to fill much more than his in-box.
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I can't get too worked up about it. In the scheme of life, it is just another lesson learned. When I bought the ammo, I knew that it was "beta" status. Being in the software business, I have learned caveat emptor. So we will let CORBON stew in this until SOMEONE notices that we have been dissed. I might have time to key a snotty note like this to blow off a little bit of steam, but I will not make a campaign about it. CORBON has shown what they think of me - and all R9 owners, I would say. That information is more valuable than the four boxes of ammo. I like to know where I stand, and Mike said it best, and I quote:
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Mike @ CORBON
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Apologies to everyone. I have not checked the forum regularly like I should. Emails have not gotten thru due to a problem with our mail server and SPAM. We are getting a new email system this week (supposedly).
I apologize for the delays. We are still waiting for our replacement bullets (95 gr X). I assure everone who returned ammo to us that you wil be taken care of. We will replace the ammo and I will send something extra also.
I will call Monday AM and get an update on delivery of the new projectiles and will post an update on here.
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Mike
As a Certified Pistol Instructor I recommend to those I train their usege of a reliable self defense round. This string has had a profound influence in my recommendations as I previously thought Cor-Bon was a good company with a good product.
However, FIVE MONTHS transpires and you say "oops"? Your statement is, (at best), specious and you have a long way to go to restore faith in Cor-Bon to those of my fellow forum members who gave your product a try and were so conspicuously denied fair treatment by you and your company.
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More like **8** (eight) months. I tried to return them at the end of January, and finally mailed them back at the beginning of February.
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"Green" is the only language many companies speak and I am not talking about global warming.
I called Mike out, (with rightful cause), and he has not responded. I regret to say that blaming spam and one's database is the cyber motive to cover human failure.
For Mike's sake, I hope I am wrong.
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Mike,
Jist give us a credit to buy other Corbon ammo. Not all of us want the new 95gr ammo as we have found alternatives for our r9 pistols. Allow us to buy other Corbon ammo of equal value with the credits from our returned ammo. Problem solved .... no more angst.
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Interestingly, I took my Rohrbaugh 380 to the range today and shot a some Corbon DPX 80 gr. with bad results. Multiple FTF -- couldn't get through a mag.
On the other hand, the Gold Dots were perfect everytime.
Also worth noting though, the DPX ammo worked fine in my Kahr P-380.
For some reason, the DPX doesn't work well in the Rohrbaugh guns.
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Mike,
Just give us a credit to buy other Corbon ammo. Not all of us want the new 95gr ammo as we have found alternatives for our r9 pistols. Allow us to buy other Corbon ammo of equal value with the credits from our returned ammo. Problem solved .... no more angst.
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Or just send equivalent amount of .40 that I will shoot in my Glock that eats anything. I am sure each waiting customer has one caliber that they would accept as replacement.
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I don't see any of my guns firing Corbon ammo in the near future. There are too many quality brands for me to choose from to be bothered with something I can't trust my life to. My take on the whole thing is that it seems to be of little intrest to the company to resolve the issue, because it is a very small share of the ammo sales.
John
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I feed DPX 9mm ammo to my Sig, but do not know if I would rely on it working in my R9. Gold Dots do fine.
I am really waiting for the R45 :)
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Interestingly, I took my Rohrbaugh 380 to the range today and shot a some Corbon DPX 80 gr. with bad results. Multiple FTF -- couldn't get through a mag.
On the other hand, the Gold Dots were perfect everytime.
Also worth noting though, the DPX ammo worked fine in my Kahr P-380.
For some reason, the DPX doesn't work well in the Rohrbaugh guns.
I just picked up my stealth today; the same difficulty with CorBon ammo ... do we have any lot numbers to avoid?
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Avoid the 80 gr loads in the R9. Some people are having trouble with the gun cycling with them. For those who have some left, they work in all other 9mm pistols that we've tried them in. Actually, they worked in all 3 of the R9's we have here. Not sure why there's a funtion problem for some people, but there is.
The nw 95 gr bullets are supposed to be coming in in October. If those of you who returned ammo want to wait for them, that works. Those who would like to exchange what you returned for a credit towards any other calibers or lines of ammunition, you can do that too. I promise I will add something to your shipment for all the aggavation.
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Mike,
Words. Inlight of all that has (not) happened I look forward to hearing from your victims that they are FINALLY compensated.
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I just picked up my stealth today; the same difficulty with CorBon ammo ... do we have any lot numbers to avoid?
Another eager trip to the range and, another try ...apparently it is not dependent on the lot for the DPX80 HP rounds; I also had the stuff fail to feed in two other weapons as well. It is very embarassing to be at a department range discussing the virtues of both the pistols and the ammunition (which previously had a great rep around LE circles) ... then have major feeding issues arise. It turns these semi-autos into single shot pistols!
At this point, I can not entrust my life to these 4 boxes of questionable ~$2/round cartridges which will not perform as expected. I had intended to qualify with the R9 as a bug ... loaded with CorBons tomorrow; however, it will be better to stick with the SW 60 and Winchester fodder to augment my 1911 - also with Winchester Ranger LE 45ACP as primary.
If I can not find another deputy who will accept my $85 investment in CB ammo tomorrow, I will offer it here for the cost of shipping. Yes, I am disappointed as there does not appear to be manufacturer support (deaf ears, perhaps?) AND certainly I wish that I would have read this thread before expending the cash!
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I will *gladly* accept any ammo for NON-Rohrbaugh pistols to replace the 4 boxes I returned. 9mm +P or .40 anything preferred. They will make nice Holiday gifts. (No "credits" required, just pick some stuff and ship it.)
I am frankly not interested in beta testing more R9 Corbon ammo at my own financial risk, thank you very much. If Corbon wants to send some boxes, at no cost, to worthy recipients for the purpose of range reports, I suspect you can find some takers. Won't be me.
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Ouch! Situation noted. Pocketbook locked.
I'm embarrassed for them. I sure hope they eventually make this right, but I'd write this off as a loss and move on.
If it was me I'd take my loss out on their brand when discussing ammo companies. As it is now, I will link to this thread when asked a question about Corbon.
Corbon is to 80 gr DPX what Microsoft is to Vista. :)
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I just picked up my stealth today; the same difficulty with CorBon ammo ... do we have any lot numbers to avoid?
Avoid lot numbers from "0" to "999999999999999999999".
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... The new 95 gr bullets are supposed to be coming in in October. If those of you who returned ammo want to wait for them, that works. Those who would like to exchange what you returned for a credit towards any other calibers or lines of ammunition, you can do that too. I promise I will add something to your shipment for all the aggavation.
For the Nth time, just send me anything in regular 8mm +P (for Glock) or anything in .40 (for Glocks). I do not want to beta test new R9 ammo.
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Cap,
It may not be R9 related but good call on comparison of microsoft to vista. I will retain windows XP as long as it takes for microsoft to get it right.
Vista is difficult, counterintuitive and sucks.
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That is one reason I switched to Mac; security being the game changer after some Bulgarians almost hacked into my brokerage account.
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I have Windows Vista and do find it a little quirky; but so far, it works.
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I think this thread is getting off topic pretty quickly! We gotta keep the pressure up on those guys!
However, I'm a network engineer for a living. Windows 7 is by far the best intial release MS has ever put out (at least the 'released to manufacturers' version is). This is the only new release I've been happy to see coming from MS in my 13 years of prefessional IT.
As for Mac's, they are a really nice machine. But with their BS marketting they are only luring there customers into a false sense of security. They are only putting a target on their customer's backs with their sarcastic 'na na nana naaa! You can't hack me!' attitude.
Once Apple has a larger market share their OS will be exploited en mass, just a like any other common computing software.
Also, what is ivirus and why does Apple sell it? ;)
OK BACK TO THE CORBON ISSUE!! PM ME IF YOU WANT TO TALK COMPUTING!
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For the Nth time, just send me anything in regular 8mm +P (for Glock) or anything in .40 (for Glocks). I do not want to beta test new R9 ammo.
Did anyone ever get taken care of by CorBon ... is it too late to just send in the casings from rounds that were unsatisfactory (multiple extractor marks from trying to re-feed) ... or, better to save expending any more effort and just write this off as a bad ammo purchase?
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Did anyone ever get taken care of by CorBon ... is it too late to just send in the casings from rounds that were unsatisfactory (multiple extractor marks from trying to re-feed) ... or, better to save expending any more effort and just write this off as a bad ammo purchase?
No word yet. Sending cases would be a waste, as I already did that 9 months ago. If that is your way to request compensation, you can only glean the proper methodology by talking directly to Corbon. (My experience is that there IS NO method.) I certainly cannot advise as to the best approach to getting compensated, as I have been wholly and totally ineffectual at getting my own 4 boxes resolved over 9+ months.
For a company who is selling as much product as they can manufacture, you would think they could afford to handle customer service issues...
Cannot understand how hard it could be to ship four stinking boxes of 9 or 40 ammo to shut me the **** up... I run a business, and this scenario would be my worst nightmare. We bust our collective a$$ to respond and act quickly and decisively. Bad press is VERY expensive, four boxes of ammo (at mfr cost) ain't nothing compared to the impact of Google searches for "CORBON ammo" finding comments like:
<search google="allow">
"corbon sucks"
"corbon is unresponsive"
"corbon has horrible customer service"
"corbon does not take care of customers"
"I will never buy corbon ammo again"
"Even remington is better than corbon" (SIC)
"corbon ammo did not work at all in my pistol"
"corbon ammo failed"
"corbon ammunition was plagued with FTE and FTF"
"waiting over 9 months for corbon to help me"
"been ignored by corbon for over 9 months"
"corbon ammo won't feed"
"corbon left us hanging"
"corbon EPIC FAIL"
"corbon is professional and responsible: NOT!"
"I'll shoot ammo molded from dog turds before I use corbon again"
"Rather buy Wolf ammo than corbon"
"send corbon to the Taliban, it won't be a threat"
"bad experience with corbon ammo"
"wouldn't shoot corbon ammo if my life depended on it..."
"corbon doesn't give a $hit."
</search google="allow">
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And I go to the range AT LEAST once a week. If I meet 6 people each day I am there, I make sure to relate this issue to at least half of them. Over the year, that is 150 times I talk about corbon, and how many of those 150 talk to others? And I am active on AR15.com and other gun sites... And not shy about sharing WINs and FAILs. How many boxes of ammo DO NOT get sold? corbon, do the math. ???
And, I DID buy the ammo from Rohrbaugh. Seems like the people there, who MUST know of this issue, would apply a LITTLE pressure to obtain resolution. I could have returned the boxes to them, but was instructed to send them to corbon. Maybe I should now approach Rorbaugh for my money back? They are the ones who got paid for this ill-tested ammo... :-/
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Mike from Corbon arranged (I thought) to have 2 boxes of a different caliber sent to me. The cost would have been about equal to the 4 boxes of 9mm I originally bought (including shipping).
When the package arrived it contained only 1 box of the replacement ammo. Corbon was either out of stock on the other box or decided that one box was enough. Only time will tell. At least I now have 1 good box of hunting ammo to replace 4 boxes of unusable 9mm ammo.
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I know I posted this before.
The new bullets keep getting delayed a month at a time.
Anybody who has sent ammo in for replacement, please call the factory (1-800-626-7266) and ask for Stephanie. She will exchange what you sent back for any other product you want.
If anybody still wants to wait for the new 95 gr standard pressure load as a replacement, I'm told that the bullets should now be in sometime in November.
Apologies to all,
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Good job from those posting their views as to corbon's failure. I regret that Rohrbaugh factory was involved in this matter and did not give greater assistance.
I will believe corbon's good faith when I read posting(s) that they finally satisfy open claims.
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The Remington UMC is NOT the ammo for the R-9. Nothing but trouble with it, FF & jams almost every time. Winchester silvertip 115gr work great, no problems at all except fimding them... 8)
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UMC is not the ammo for anything serious except a Glock and to fire it and be rid of it.
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My Walther PPS will shoot the Remington all day long but
forget the R-9S
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Steel74:
You almost slipped in under my radar. ;)
Welcome to the Forum!
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Steel74. Welcome from me as well. Enjoy the Forum.
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Superman:
The reason you are faster than a speeding bullet is because you are competing against UMC ammo.
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I phoned Stephanie and left a detailed message requesting ANY 40 or 9 replacement. 10 days later or so received four boxes of .40 and a (surprise) COR-BON hat. I thought the inclusion of the hat was ironic, as I am probably the last person to actually wear one as an advertisement...
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A "haton" is a good thing to have if you are a guy.
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Good "point". I prefer my hats without scratchy logos, though...
Did you ever see the serial number on a "hat"?
[size=10](never rolled it up far enough?)[/size]
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I phoned Stephanie and left a detailed message requesting ANY 40 or 9 replacement. 10 days later or so received four boxes of .40 and a (surprise) COR-BON hat. I thought the inclusion of the hat was ironic, as I am probably the last person to actually wear one as an advertisement...
Interesting ... I have received nothing ... not even a promised return telephone call ... I think that I will simply Kall it Kwits with Korbon ... plenty of time, effort, and $$$ expended for nothing! Am I / we expecting toooooooo much???
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I left a DETAILED msg for her and it worked with NO CALLBACK. Just leave the critical info. Who knows? You could wind up with a snazzy hat, advertising a company that you have no faith in...
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Ammunition difficulties - in particular: Cor-Bon. I would like to express my gratitude to the national sales manager, Mike. He has me taken care of to my complete satisfaction with regard to difficulties with the DPX-80 ammunition. I vote to give Cor-Bon / Dakota Ammo another chance! My patience and courtesy was - apparently - well received.
Mike offered regrets for the delay (dating back to last December) but did not make excuses. He resolved the situation and I will try their new DPX rounds. Kudos to Mike.