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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: FloridaCCW on January 15, 2010, 06:22:21 PM
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My new R9S serial R42XX came in this week!
Liked it so much that I started another search :) This is what I found and bought today...
An R9S estimated to arrive next Wednesday! Has the original black carbon fiber grips and only shot to qualify for carry. Was owned by an older gentleman that kept it in a safe most of the time. No visible wear and 3 mags for 950 shipped!
This is going to be an expensive hobby! Had to sell a few things, but I am very happy. Hopefully my Meco holster comes in soon too.
Thank you to everyone for all of the great info!
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CCW. Congratulations on receiving the new R9S and on that exceptional find at such a great price. Look forward to seeing those pictures.
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Figured out how to post pictures. Here are some pics from the seller.
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2276/pix1447292109.jpg)
(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2590/pix1447292250.jpg)
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Florida CCW:
I am glad you found what you are looking for...and more!
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CCW. Very nice, indeed!
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Nice cant wait to get mine in the mail :)
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ccw, congrats on getting # 2, enjoy both pups. Tom
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Nice cant wait to get mine in the mail :)
Bob. Congratulations on the buy of the R9s Stealth. You will like it, for sure.
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Thanks everyone! I am very excited for the new pup to arrive! I was lucky to find it ;D
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Nice cant wait to get mine in the mail :)
Congrats!
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CCW and Bob:
Well done! Welcome to the Club.
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I saw that one on Gunbroker and kicked the idea around a little of getting another but I am already looking for (2) 45's and have (3) ar15 builds going on now. But I did concider it hard.
Chief
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Thanks for passing it up :) I called the seller to offer a buy it now.
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Now, find that Farmingdale! :D :D
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One thing I like about the guys on this forum, We tend to try not to bid against each other. I am glad I did not in this case as you were able to get it. Now if that would have been one of the 1 of 18's.......... ;D
Chief
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There would have been a Farmingdale frenzy, for sure!
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Now, find that Farmingdale! :D :D
Missed a Farmingdale on GlockTalk forum about 2 months ago. Sold for 1025 with 2 holsters. Serial was RXX and it looks like he originally bought it from someone on this forum http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1135790&highlight=rohrbaugh+sale
There is a link to the original thread he bought from in June '09 on the link I just posted.
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There are deals out there. That was one reason it was so amazing last month someone spent over $2200.00 on a Farmy. Average for used R9 is about 900-1000 unless there is something really special about it.
Chief
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Yep. That one sold for $2501.97 and was number 133, no R prefix, so it was special.
Here's a link to the original owner of the above gun who sold it for $1000. Richard's information of this owner tells us he has since passed away.
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Classifieds;action=display;num=1106325442;start=0
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Missed a Farmingdale on GlockTalk forum about 2 months ago. Sold for 1025 with 2 holsters. Serial was RXX and it looks like he originally bought it from someone on this forum http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1135790&highlight=rohrbaugh+sale
There is a link to the original thread he bought from in June '09 on the link I just posted.
CCW. I remember this, but didn't have anything I wanted to trade and want an early Farmingdale with no R prefix and unfired, except factory. I know this is wishing for the moon, so to speak, but I know it's out there.
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Here they are!
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6818/sidebysideh.jpg)
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I think I will be getting a third soon ;D
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CCW. Excellent looking duo for sure.
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I think I will be getting a third soon ;D
Someone here on the Forum said, they're like rabbits. ;D ;D
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good lokking pocket pair 8) Tom thirds ???
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I think I will be getting a third soon ;D
Could it be a Robar is on the horizon? :)
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Could it be a Robar is on the horizon? :)
Very well could be :) Honestly though, the price of the Robar model is hard for me to justify if I can almost buy two R9s for the same price. Now if I find one for around 1400 then my mind might change ;D
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I think you can have a regular R9s coated with NP3 finish, as John did, and have about that in it. :)
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I will probably Robar if the original finish gets scratched up... Costs around 300 right? The Robar finish does look nice though.
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I think John's was just a shade more than that; he got it done while they were running a special.
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I think John's was just a shade more than that; he got it done while they were running a special.
The shade more included shipping both ways.
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Looks like there is a new Robar PLUS finish too.
http://www.robarguns.com/np3%20plus.html
It seems to be superior in corrosion resistance when compared to the original Robar finish.
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That looks superb.
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Maybe more need for it for you Florida guys, if you fall off the charter boat with your pup in your pocket it will be better protected. ;D
Maybe thats why the ad states "Come Hell or High Water"
John
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Looks like there is a new Robar PLUS finish too.
http://www.robarguns.com/np3%20plus.html
It seems to be superior in corrosion resistance when compared to the original Robar finish.
Yes. Always coming up with something new and that's a good thing. :)
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Wonder what the price difference will be between the Robar and Robar Plus finishes.
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Really the plus only means more $$$ the average person would probably not know the differance.
John
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Another thought. How would the person who owns the gun know he has NP3 Plus except that he paid for it? Just wondering.
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Drop it in a salt water tank ;D
I just sent them an email asking if it will look different. I will let you all know what I find out.
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Drop it in a salt water tank ;D
I thought NP3 was supposed to take care of that! ;D ;D
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From the graph, it looks like salt spray corrosion resistance improved a lot over the regular NP3 finish.
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The graph was impressive.
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I will need to get my pup refinished with the New NP3, so when I jet off to Maui for some surfing, I can keep it in my Kydex IWB in my Speedo and not worry about the salt. :o ;D
John
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You got that right! ;D ;D
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I will need to get my pup refinished with the New NP3, so when I jet off to Maui for some surfing, I can keep it in my Kydex IWB in my Speedo and not worry about the salt. :o ;D
John
GREAT IDEA! Be sure to post pics :-X
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Yankee: Alternatively, you may wish to drive your Bugatti into a salt estuary with your NP3 Plus R9 on the passenger seat.
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The good news is that the R9 will probably survive from the salt estuary excursion.
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That's probably a given. ;D ;D
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The good news is that the R9 will probably survive from the salt estuary excursion.
LOL...I bet it would! Would look great in a salt water fish tank too. ;D
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On another note, I noticed that my new model R9 has circular machining marks on the inside of the slide towards the rear. Looks like something circular was stamped into the slide several times. Thoughts?
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You may have seen this link. Some of the post reference some marks in the barrel left over from the rifling process, maybe.
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Cleaning;action=display;num=1232376491;start=0#0
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Thanks for that reminder, KJ; I had forgotten about the Outers Nitro Solvent that was referenced in that thread.
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I will be sending it back to Rohrbaugh next week. IMO things like this should not be able to slip through quality control. In contrast, the machining and finish on my previously owned gun is perfect. I will post some pictures.
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I agree with you.
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Great News: The Bugatti Veyron that wandered into the salt water sold at salvage auction for $368,000, triple the estimate; there is help out there for us.
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Here are the machining marks. As you can see they are also on the slide rails. I know they will probably replace the slide, but this is sad...
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9935/marks.jpg)
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4765/marks2.jpg)
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2645/photoqe.jpg)
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Great photos and as you stated, poor quality control.
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Does Robar offer NP3 Plus for a Veyron Bugatti? If so, how much?
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Great News: The Bugatti Veyron that wandered into the salt water sold at salvage auction for $368,000, triple the estimate; there is help out there for us.
WOW! That is great news. Sold for a third of the original price.
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On another note, I noticed that my new model R9 has circular machining marks on the inside of the slide towards the rear. Looks like something circular was stamped into the slide several times. Thoughts?
CCW. Sorry about that link. I misread your post, thinking barrel instead of slide. Brain didn't connect with the word.
I agree on the quality control issue, very poor. That's not usually the case.
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CCW
I think you did not buy my used R9S with carbon fiber grips because you were dissuaded because warranty was in my name and not available to you.
In future please consider that you could have sent the R9 I sold you to me and I would in turn have sent it to the factory on your behalf. At lease I think the factory would allow this.
Further, my used carbon fiber R9 does NOT have those machine marks that compelled you to send it back to Rohrbaugh.
Please understand this is not sour grapes. It is far more important to me to uphold the collegiate nature of this forum than is for me to sell an R9 and I wish you well, again, (as already stated above), in the enjoyment of your new toys.
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CCW
I think you did not buy my used R9S with carbon fiber grips because you were dissuaded because warranty was in my name and not available to you.
In future please consider that you could have sent the R9 I sold you to me and I would in turn have sent it to the factory on your behalf. At lease I think the factory would allow this.
Further, my used carbon fiber R9 does NOT have those machine marks that compelled you to send it back to Rohrbaugh.
Please understand this is not sour grapes. It is far more important to me to uphold the collegiate nature of this forum than is for me to sell an R9 and I wish you well, again, (as already stated above), in the enjoyment of your new toys.
i don't know what you are talking about. The NEW one I purchased has the machine marks. My used R9S is perfect. I also bought it for 300 less than you are asking for yours and I received more. I was also treated very well by the seller. After reading your comment, I am very happy that I bought from someone else too.
I have no regrets with my used R9S purchase and price was the primary reason for not going with you. I am surprised you would actually post such a comment and expect it to be taken well. It would have been more appropriate to PM me considering all of my correspondence with you has been via PM regarding your firearm. Your disparaging intentions are very clear despite trying to be cryptic with your delivery. Narcissistic injury....Wow....
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Without getting myself into this battle, Rohrbaugh does offer (IIRC) a service that for something like $200 one can get their used R9 re-certified and warrantied.
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Without getting myself into this battle, Rohrbaugh does offer (IIRC) a service that for something like $200 one can get their used R9 re-certified and warrantied.
Good to know! I may get another used one soon :D
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I'm rootin' for you to get that Robar. Good luck. :) :)
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Robar emailed me back and said the NP3 and NP3 PLUS finish are the exact same price. In addition, both finishes look the same, but they said that the PLUS finish is a big improvement. I like this...
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Looks like in time the NP3 Plus would replace the NP3 since the price is the same. Good information.
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Hi,
I've been searching for a R9S, where did you have success getting two?
Thanks
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Welcome, qualisTempus!
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Hi,
I've been searching for a R9S, where did you have success getting two?
Thanks
qualisTempus. Welcome to the Forum. Post often!
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Hi,
I've been searching for a R9S, where did you have success getting two?
Thanks
One was bought from Guns America and the other was from Gun Broker. Arego's on Guns America seems to have some of the lowest prices around for Rohrbaugh (ask for Terry). Both sellers were great to work with. Good luck!
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qualisTempus:
Welcome to the Forum.
As for obtaining one or more of the R9s, get in touch with Tom Watson, "theirishguard." He is a licensed dealer and supporter of the Forum who can get you the model(s) of your choice and arrange the details with your local FFL.
You can find his rotating banner at the top of the Forum page, and his e-mail address is tomswatson@sbcglobal.net .
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Excellent. I second those comments.
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Here are the machining marks. As you can see they are also on the slide rails. I know they will probably replace the slide, but this is sad...
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9935/marks.jpg)
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4765/marks2.jpg)
(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2645/photoqe.jpg)
Spoke with Maria and was told that the machining marks are to be expected. She mentioned that the slides are made in lots of 16 I believe and that ones towards the end of the lot sometimes have leftover machining marks.
Not satisfied with the response, I called her back and stated that I was not happy with the quality and would like another option. Karl called me today and apologized for the issue and said that he will personally fix things and to send it back to him with his attention. It was a pleasure speaking with him and he truly stands by his product.
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Now that is true customer service. Glad you could speak to Karl and get the issue resolved. Excellent.
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"Machining marks are to be expected?" That statement is a black mark in my book.
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When I called back, I stated that I was surprised by the machinist's comments too and that it is not the quality that Rohrbaugh should say is ok and/or acceptable. Maria said that the drill gets a little worn out when finishing a slide tray lot (16 at a time) and that the little spurs can cause the indentations to develop. She stated that each slide is different and it is caused by "chattering" on a CNC machine. She said there would be no functionality issue and encouraged me to take it to the range to prove it would not cause any function problems. She basically implied that it is the luck of the draw on whether or not your slide will have the "chattering" marks or not.
However, Karl did not argue at all and said that it will be fixed so in the end I am happy. Shipping was covered as well.
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"Machining marks are to be expected" on a crowbar maybe, not on a high dollar pocket pistol.
John
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The end result is what you have to look at. Karl said he would fix it. Don't agree with the machinist's remarks, however, Karl took over and calmed the matter. CCW is a happy camper. :)
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Expect continuing glitches as a luck of the draw but they will take care of the problem. Does that sound like a positive sales pitch?
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Come on tracker. I said, I didn't agree with the machinists' remarks! I know Karl can handle the matter!
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Please correct me if I am wrong but as I read it the machinist made the marks but not the remarks.
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When I called back, I stated that I was surprised by the machinist's comments too and that it is not the quality that Rohrbaugh should say is ok and/or acceptable. Maria said that the drill gets a little worn out when finishing a slide tray lot (16 at a time) and that the little spurs can cause the indentations to develop. She stated that each slide is different and it is caused by "chattering" on a CNC machine. She said there would be no functionality issue and encouraged me to take it to the range to prove it would not cause any function problems. She basically implied that it is the luck of the draw on whether or not your slide will have the "chattering" marks or not.
However, Karl did not argue at all and said that it will be fixed so in the end I am happy. Shipping was covered as well.
CCW says here he was surprised by the machinists' comments too.
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Spoke with Maria and was told that the machining marks are to be expected. She mentioned that the slides are made in lots of 16 I believe and that ones towards the end of the lot sometimes have leftover machining marks.
Not satisfied with the response, I called her back and stated that I was not happy with the quality and would like another option. Karl called me today and apologized for the issue and said that he will personally fix things and to send it back to him with his attention. It was a pleasure speaking with him and he truly stands by his product.
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Tracker. We can keep this up all night if you like. I'm saying Karl can handle the matter. Would you like to disagree on this?
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The point I am trying to make is why not correct the source of the problem instead of fixing the result of the problem.
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I'm saying Karl will solve the matter entirely, which includes the source and the result. This will not continue.
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Good; then we can disabuse ourselves of the notion that machining marks can be expected--what a relief.
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I'm glad you're now disabused of the notion now and have found that profound relief! Such a refreshing moment. ;D
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It's been fun sparring with you, KJ; now that the State of the Union speech is over I have to turn the TV back on and listen to some late night news.
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It has been fun, tracker, I'm looking at the news as well.
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Please correct me if I am wrong but as I read it the machinist made the marks but not the remarks.
Maria was the messenger and showed the machinist my pictures. She then called me back and told me the machinist stated the marks are to be expected (chattering caused by the CNC machine) and to go to the range and fire the gun to prove that it works fine. I called back and said I will not accept that solution and want other options. I mentioned that I have seen other Rohrbaughs and none have had these marks. Maria suggested that it was the luck of the draw and it depended on where in the lot of 16 the slide was made. Again, she stated that slides made later in the lot often have more chattering. They are very aware of the issue and they seem to rationalize the marks by saying it will not cause any function problems. I added that if they had any pride in their product they should fix the slide immediately. I noted that the marks will also be a problem if I ever decide to sell. I also stated that many forum members agree the work is not representative of a Rohrbaugh. I don't know, but maybe these comments led to Karl calling me. Maria never called me back...
I later received a call from Karl apologizing and stating that we do not want any unhappy customers and he will personally fix things. He said that the machinist and him are the only people that do the quality control and this one slipped through. He reiterated that the marks will not cause any function problems. So in the end, it looks like Karl agreed with the machinist's comments, but did not want an unhappy customer. If I did not push the issue, Karl would not have called me and I would be stuck with a marked up slide. In the end, I am happy, but I wish I did not need to assert myself as much as I did to get things fixed. I am going to try and send it back to Rohrbaugh later today.
The obvious fix is to not run lots of 16 slides at one time so the CNC machine does not chatter! ::)
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Wishing you the best, for sure!
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I saw one of these guns this weekend at a gun show now I am interested in one, How much do they cost?
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corbon1. Welcome to the Forum. Glad to see your interest in the R9. Contact Tom Watson of theirishguard here on the Forum and he can quote you a price and then get you one. Give him a PM. Again welcome.
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I also recommend Aregos on Guns America. Speak with Terry. They seem to have some of the lowest prices around.
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CCW. Any word on your R9? Progress.....anything?
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They are making me a new slide ;D
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Looks like they would have these in stock!
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Not if you sell everything you make. They are not a High Volume/High Production company. Sometimes there is a price to pay for exclusivity. I Like the idea of having a part made especially for my gun. The odds are also that it will be very carefully mated to the weapon. All Good.
Chief
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That's a thought! I was thinking the factory could pull one from a batch, check it out, install it on the gun, and make sure it worked.
If they make the slide for the gun, that is good!
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Still no replacement slide and last I heard Rohrbaugh had not been able to reach the vendor who sends them the slides. Been almost 2 months.... :-/
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That seems like a long time to wait for a part they use on a regular basis, and it would seem they should have a couple in stock to cover a situation like this.
John
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This doesn't sound good.
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I wonder what vendor makes the slides?
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The slides are made in-house at the Rohrbaugh factory.
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I thought the same thing; made in lots of 16.
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Initially, I was told the same thing.... However, this is what I received on March 10, 2010.
"We are still waiting on slides I called the Vendor but they have not returned our call yet. "
Thank you,
Rohrbaugh Firearms Corp.
Off 631-242-3175
Fax 631-242-3183
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I wonder what vendor makes the slides?
I don't know, but when I spoke with Karl he mentioned working with Smith and Wesson, and what good people they were to work with.
John
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At a first glance it appears that Rohrbaugh may not be making the slides now.
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At a first glance it appears that Rohrbaugh may not be making the slides now.
I will be sure to ask when I give them a call ;)
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I don't know, but when I spoke with Karl he mentioned working with Smith and Wesson, and what good people they were to work with.
John
That could be the case.
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My bet is they are still making the slides. I think that Smith does do the black finish on the stealth models for Rohrbaugh. Is yours a Stealth?
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My bet is they are still making the slides. I think that Smith does do the black finish on the stealth models for Rohrbaugh. Is yours a Stealth?
No.
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You got me then, that don't make since to me. Let us know what you find out.
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Just spoke to Maria and Rohrbaugh does NOT make the slides. She did not tell me who does...
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Now we know. Thanks!
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Just spoke to Maria and Rohrbaugh does NOT make the slides. She did not tell me who does...
WOW, that is weird. I made a trip to several gun manufactors last week in that area. I now wish we had made the ferry over to long island to check out the Rohrbaugh shop and see what's going on with the R brothers. I'm not sure why but them once making the slides and now not making the slides just don't seem right to me. I guess they found sombody that can produce them cheaper than they could. The only other reason I could think of would be that they found sombody that could produce them better than they could but I dought that could happen.
Here is a pic from the faqs site showing how they used to make the slides.
(http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/rohrbaugh/images/img_1084-s.jpg)
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Maria was very nice on the phone, but she seemed surprised when I asked...
If you look at Rohrbaugh's website it is kinda implied that they do not make everything.
"Our firearms are designed with the use of CAD/CAM programs. CNC machines perform the manufacturing. Then each gun is then hand fitted and assembled in our state of the art facility. The materials used are of the highest grade, including quality stainless steel, 7075 aircraft aluminum, G-10 grips and Wolff springs."
See how it says that "each gun is then hand fitted and assembled in our state of the art facility." They only say that the guns are assembled by them, but do not say that they manufacture the actual parts.
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It almost sounds like the Browning Hi-Power:
"Made in Belgium"
"Assembled in Portugal"
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I hope they did not outsource to China ::)
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What we have here is a pistol design that is far ahead of its time. More and more people are learning what we fortunate few current owners already know. The R9 pistols occupy a unique niche in the world of self-defense armament. Two brothers with inspired design and marketing skills, a few far-sighted investors (of which group I wish I had been one), and a dedicated staff (here read "Maria") providing the highest degree of customer service is a special and seldom-seen combination. Demand for these pistols is outstripping supply. Some outsourcing is inevitable. But if I know the Rohrbaugh brothers, there will never be any compromise on quality for anything marketed bearing their name and family crest.
Further, deponent sayeth not. 8)
[size=10]Edit: Typo.[/size]
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Richard. I totally agree. You have said it well. The Rohrbaugh brothers are a tribute to their profession and I applaud them for their outstanding accomplishments. Looking forward to the future and that R45!
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If anything, the slides seem to be improved over past years. One of the problems with outsourcing is the supply chain; if it is true that they haven't received slides in months there is no wonder that demand is outstripping supply.
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I would have thought that Rohrbaugh was a vertically integrated facility in which everything is made in house. However, I am confident that whoever is making them is guided by strict quality standards.
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Personally I cannot get all upset about some small tooling marks in the inside of the slide that cannot be seen when the pistol is assembled and have no effect on function.
I have several custom pistols and rifles, and they are all tools designed and constructed to do a specific job. Looks are nice, but design, function, reliability, and longevity are the critical attributes that I look for in a good gun.
I feel that the Rohrbaugh is a fantastic gun for a very reasonable price. If there is a defect affecting performance, then I would be concerned and would make sure that the manufacturer corrected it.
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The Web site is a little misleading though. When one says It is "designed" then "CNC machines perform the manufacturing" and then Hand assembled, one would naturally follow the flow as all being done in house. It is quite differant than saying something like "We have our slides manufactured for us to the strictest of tolerances while maintaining the highest degree of quality" One phrase does not even presume to be offsite, the other Makes one actually count it as a plus. Nighthawk customs bought frames from Les Baer, Caspian, and STI during their earlier years (2004-2008 or so) and it was never concidered a minus.
Chief
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Just found out the firearm should be arriving today!
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Great news; maybe they found some slides.
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I believe we all tend to think it's as it sounds, anything of this type could or would be listed as ,It is "designed" then "CNC machines perform the manufacturing" the mag extensions I'm selling were ,"designed" then "CNC machines performed the manufacturing" just not 100% by me.
Because Rohrbaugh is a small company and the guns are designed and hand assembled in house it is easy to believe everything is done in house and at one point probably was. With the burden of keeping up with 9mm and 380 production, and designing and building the R45, outsourcing the slides may have been the answer.
John
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Just found out the firearm should be arriving today!
Excellent. Good news, indeed. Thanks for letting us know.
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Guys, The slides are made in the same building as Rohrbaugh. The guys who do that were Rohrbaugh employees but bought CNC machines and started their own company and found the new building that they share with Rohrbaugh in Deer Park. And of course they are made to exact specs from Rohrbaugh. These fine pistols are completly made in the USA. Tom
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Thanks for the info Tom. That splains it ;D
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Guys, The slides are made in the same building as Rohrbaugh. The guys who do that were Rohrbaugh employees but bought CNC machines and started their own company and found the new building that they share with Rohrbaugh in Deer Park. And of course they are made to exact specs from Rohrbaugh. These fine pistols are completly made in the USA. Tom
Interesting. Why would they say they have not heard from the vendor when they could simply walk down the hall and find out? How big is this building lol...
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That occurred to me also and why were they short on slides for so long a time frame?
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Yep. I was thinking the same thing. Don't really quite understand that one. There's an explanation somewhere, just don't know what it is.
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Whoever is making slides may have run short on metal stock. An open order, for raw material, may be delinquent or a purchase order may not have been placed within supplier's leadtime.
Alternatively, the factory may be using this matter as an excuse to cover other factors in play they do not wish to disclose. This is absolutely common.
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As I stated, there is an explanation somewhere, I just don't know what it is.
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Under deep cover.
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Slide was replaced and it is perfect ;D
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4616/photodxo.jpg)
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Now that's an excellent outcome. Sounds like you're happy!
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Yep! On another note, the Hogue Extreme grips are well worth it too!
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Just wanted to add my 2 cents...
I'm an MS Industrial Engineer, Harvard MBA, ex-USAF Maintainance Officer, NASA Qualified Quality Control Exec in the electronics industry and all-around stickler for high quality products... (my wife is NOT impressed!!)
I am as impressed with my new R9s as I have ever been with any product I have ever evaluated. It is a high quality, mission-focused product which, as far as I can assess from input on this forum in the last five years, has evolved to its present state with only minor changes which have added performance and reliability. Obviously, Karl had the background and the passion to develop an "optimal design" product and we all are enthusiastic about owning an "early Rohrbaugh". The problem, as is usually the case in successful entrepreneurial endeavors, is how to grow without compromising quality. Rohrbaugh now owns the top end of the concealed carry market. He can move to quickly expand market share by expanding high volume at the expense of quality or by retaining the high quality segment and charging a premium price. I sincerely hope that he chooses to be the Tiffany brand in this market!!
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Park:
I couldn't express it any better if I tried.
Welcome to the campfire!
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Being an Engineer and a Form follows Function type of guy,
I looked at my slide and saw that it too had some marking from the machining. I however, chose not to worry about whether it was absent of these marks as they have, as far as I can tell absolutely no bearing on the use and reliabilty of the R9S. Plus, the fact you must disassemble the Pup in order to see them makes them not worthy of too much time being spent on them, let alone making a project out of them.
Too many other things to play with ! ;D
Maybe I will readdress the issue when I feel I have steeled myself to send off the Pup for surjery. (We have not been parted for very long since it joined the "Family". :'(
Chief
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Park245, Welcome to the Forum and may your Rohrbaugh serve you well. Your concerns are also the R-Bros concerns. Quality control is a TOP priority. Rohrbaugh will maintain quality over volume. That comes direct to me from Karl and Eric every day. Dan