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Title: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on June 27, 2011, 10:55:04 AM
I received an email today from Boberg as I'm sure many ofyou did, so I'm thinking there ready to start taking orders.
  But Nooo.. they have a Face Book page  ??? Wow I can hardly wait to sign up, whats next Twitter or My Space. ::)


Boberg Arms
A message to all members of Boberg Arms

 Hi!

 Boberg Arms has a new Facebook Page at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boberg-Arms/182226611833290

 
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Reinz on June 27, 2011, 11:43:02 AM
Count me out.

I don't do social networking.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on June 27, 2011, 11:46:45 AM
I'm with you there.  ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on June 27, 2011, 04:05:50 PM
I'm a member, but rarely post, except to the kids and grandkids.  They love it.    :)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Reinz on June 28, 2011, 01:50:36 AM
I'm not a computer guy, but I've had more than one tell me that Facebook and MYspace is one of the top places to get a computer virus even if you have virus protection.

My computer is 6 years old, my wife's is less than 3 and we have the same virus program.  She gets on Facebook, I don't.

She constantly has virus problems and her computer is down and in the shop.
Mine is still humming along.

As usual, she won't listen.

Also, I was at a hotel a few weeks ago and they had a sign on they guest lobby computer saying "No Facebook or gaming".  
I inquired why, knowing the answer. The clerk told me they had gone through 8 computers in less than a year and a half with virus protection due to Facebook and Gaming sites.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on June 28, 2011, 02:07:07 AM
I don't go on Face Book or gaming sites and have had two Windows based computers with virus protection go to viruses.
 I now have a Mac Book Pro for the last couple of years and no protection and no virus problems. My Daughter has had her Mac Book for over three years and lives on Face Book and has no protection and has never had a problem.
  I'll never go back to Windows after having the Mac.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on June 28, 2011, 08:39:31 AM
I've had Vista for 3 years now, and surprisingly, no problems.  That being said, still, my next lap top will probably be a Mac.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: coyote on June 28, 2011, 01:51:52 PM

i make my living with computer and had used PCs for over 25 years.

specifically because of virus problems and the total loss of a fully-protected laptop, i switched to a mac a couple years ago.

no need of anti-virus software, no hassles, no stress.

i'm never going back to a PC, for that reason alone.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on June 28, 2011, 05:26:14 PM
BIG +1 on that. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: FloridaCCW on June 28, 2011, 06:47:54 PM
+1 on Mac. I switched a couple years ago and there is no comparison IMO.
As for Facebook, the site itself is not the problem, it is when you click on posts and links from people that lead to a virus. Same can be said for hyperlinks embedded in emails. Don't click on them unless you know exactly what it is.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on June 28, 2011, 08:40:49 PM
Arne made some cool post on his forum today.  Here are a couple:

"Frame production is going well - pre-orders will be out today for the first group."

" Price will be posted on this website today."

It's sounding like it won't be long now!!
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on June 28, 2011, 11:24:15 PM
Glad there finally filling the pre orders from 08.
  Definitely not on my short list of must have pistols.

Here is the posted price from the site.

The introductory retail price is $949
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Relic on June 29, 2011, 07:42:30 PM
I've watched the Boberg startup for quite some time.  It's an intriguing firearm.  Unfortunately it's a one trick pony.

By that I mean that it only improves on the current state of the art in one area, barrel length.  
It's bigger in all dimentions and heavier unloaded than a loaded R9.  
It's heavier and taller than a PM9 although a little shorter in slide length.
It's a completely untested design and will have limited production so it'd not likely to have meaningful reliability data available for some time to come.

Is a bigger, heavier firearm worth a longer barrel?
If the answer is "yes", then buy a Glock 19, or even two for the same price as one XM9.  If the answer is "no" then buy a PM9 and save $400, or buy an R9 which is already a proven design and is significantly smaller and lighter.  The R9 is a much better concealment firearm than the bulky Boberg is spec'ed to be.

The Boberg has a lot of "gee-wiz" factor but not much other than novelty to justify it's price.

Some things could be done to make it more competitive, like reducing the capacity to 6+1 to shrink the large grip reducing size and weight.

We'll see what the future brings, I wish Arne Boberg the best.  I'd love to see another quality US manufacturer thriving.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on June 29, 2011, 10:04:47 PM
I think you summed it up perfectly.  I was very interested when they were first announced. As I waited and spent more time looking at the gun and the specs it became clear I didn't see anything special that kept me wanting one.
  I don't find the guns looks appealing and the ability to shoot +P ammo is of little interest to me.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on June 30, 2011, 07:14:24 PM
Here are some new factory photos.  I for one am VERY excited to get one soon.

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x275/ccaallaahhaann/Boberg/_6249334s1.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x275/ccaallaahhaann/Boberg/_MG_3234.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x275/ccaallaahhaann/Boberg/_6249336.jpg)

Last but not least is the funky mag.  ;D

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x275/ccaallaahhaann/Boberg/_MG_3264.jpg)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on June 30, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
The quality looks to be top notch. If that is the case it should do well. Unlike the Glock which I like because of its reliability the Borberg appears to have great ergonomics and tactile facility.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Relic on July 05, 2011, 09:59:23 AM
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Here are some new factory photos.  I for one am VERY excited to get one soon.

I would love to shoot one, but there's nothing in the spec's to really entice me to shell out ~$1000 for one.  Maybe the proof in is the shooting and I'll change my mind then.

Originally I was excited and wanted to buy one also.  But I already own a PM9, an R9, and for a longer barreled CCW a P9 Covert.  All are smaller than the Boberg in the area most critical for concealment, the size of the grip.  The Boberg is a fairly heavy pistol, so  it has no weight advantage either.  After taking a honest apprasial of the Boberg and it's specifications, I realised it would be a safe queen for me as the other pistols I own will carry better.

I guess that's the real issue for me; the Boberg almost equals the current state-of-the-art for CCW.  Which I already own.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on July 05, 2011, 10:38:41 AM
The higher capacity and longer barrel do it for me.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Chief-USN on July 05, 2011, 05:00:27 PM
 One will have to be careful how they grip it. The end of the barrel is extremely close to the trigger guard. You would be wise to hold it like a revolver if two hands are involved.

 On the subject of Facebook/Myspace... I run a network for a large company and as was mentioned before, they are the place to go if you are looking for problems.

  Chief
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Relic on July 05, 2011, 07:10:58 PM
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The higher capacity and longer barrel do it for me.

Those would be very good reasons for you to purchase one then. :)   My priorities are different, so we have different thoughts on the Boberg.  I already own firearms that are better than the Boberg, for my needs.  But that's why there are so many different popular firearms, requirements differ by individual.

I bet you'll enjoy that unique little pistol.  I'd certainly love to shoot one.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on August 15, 2011, 03:28:18 PM
Has anyone, here,  been able to purchase a Boberg yet or even put in their order?  Just curious.    :)  
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on August 15, 2011, 07:33:57 PM
I've ordered but don't know when my number will come up.  Seems the lucky people who got in the first batch order will be getting theirs soon.  

http://www.bobergarms.com/forum/topics/any-news-to-feed-us-with-arne
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on August 15, 2011, 07:54:37 PM
I have not received the preorder form yet.  Was expecting that a couple months ago; takes time; I know.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on August 15, 2011, 08:01:10 PM
I'll wait for the R45, it may even beat the Slowberg. ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on August 15, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
I know what you mean.    :)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on August 15, 2011, 08:24:30 PM
I'd bet a shiny quarter that the R45 won't be the first one out.


I sorta like the way Ruger has done it for the past few years with having guns ready (or almost) to ship before they ever announce the gun.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on August 15, 2011, 09:15:52 PM
I like that too; when it's announced you just buy it; simple.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on August 15, 2011, 09:23:33 PM
Thats the smart way to do it, people see it they like it they buy it. This way people see it they like they get tired of waiting and buy a Ruger. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on August 15, 2011, 09:32:14 PM

In some cases they buy the Ruger and wish they had waited longer.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on August 15, 2011, 09:37:29 PM
Let's see now, I've got five Rugers, no six Rugers, and never have wished I had waited longer.     ;)  And I don't feel like I'm just lucky!    :)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on August 15, 2011, 09:40:48 PM

Did you buy an LCP?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on August 15, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
I did and it works as it should.   And I'm not lucky there either, but wait a minute; maybe I was in this case.  I didn't buy one of the first ones out if that's what you're getting at.  

However, I didn't wait on purpose.  Just happened to be after the recall.   :)  I guess that is fairly lucky; no question.    :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on August 15, 2011, 10:13:44 PM
I'm not saying I like to be a test dummy.  I'm just saying I don't have the best patients.  Im all for waiting until the product is right before you start shipping.  I feel that's just what Boberg has done.  


I guess the wait has been.........sorta fun.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on August 15, 2011, 10:59:38 PM
I bought one of the first LCPs and never had a problem and I liked it a lot. I did send it back for the recall work but not because I had issues and it was after things slowed down on the recalls.
   I had over 2000 rounds through it with no failures when I sold it after purchasing a Kahr P380.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Corvette on August 16, 2011, 03:08:53 PM
I’m fortunate to be included in Boberg's first batch.
If all goes well, I should have my gun in a few weeks.
I’m certainly looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 02, 2011, 11:24:39 PM
Looks like the first ones are ready to ship next week!  It's been a long wait since the February 2008 shot show.  I'm excited to start seeing some reviews and owner pics.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Ljutic on September 03, 2011, 03:35:16 PM
I "need" another pocket 9.  I'm getting bored with the DB9.  Time for some fresh meat.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 03, 2011, 08:23:22 PM
I hope you were on the list otherwise I think it will be a bit of a wait. ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 03, 2011, 09:54:10 PM
I got on the list as soon as they said they were accepting names for the preorder.  Still haven't heard a word.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 03, 2011, 10:19:41 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 03, 2011, 10:29:28 PM
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I got on the list as soon as they said they were accepting names for the preorder.  Still haven't heard a word.

Ken I think the next group or orders will be very soon.  Maybe you will be in that group.   Do you remember when you got on the list?  I got on it 2-19-2008 I think.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 03, 2011, 11:50:34 PM
Corey.  I don't remember, but as soon as it was announced that they were taking names for the preorder, I sent Arnie an email and got a reply back that I was on the list.

I did send him another email and asked where I was on the list, but haven't gotten a reply; I know they're busy.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: sisco on September 05, 2011, 09:06:40 PM
Anyone else besides me thinks the price is a bit high for that Boberg?  Maybe it's hard to say at this point but I am feeling that.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on September 05, 2011, 09:21:44 PM

The market will sort out the price and the initial buyers will pioneer the kinks, if any.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 05, 2011, 09:28:00 PM
I don't think the price is so bad but the gun itself hits pretty high on the ugly scale for me. Plus it's too heavy to compete with the pup for pocket space. ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 05, 2011, 09:56:25 PM
R9 w/mag is 15.1 oz

XR9s w/mag is 17.5 oz

2.4 oz difference is not a lot IMO.  Most comparisons I've seen here and other places put the R9 at 13.5 oz but that number is not counting the magazine.

Yep, it's looks are either a love or hate kind of thing.  
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on September 05, 2011, 10:10:23 PM
Corey,

Slight difference in R9 weight with mag, 14.3 oz., according to this.

http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/ccm_r9.pdf

Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 05, 2011, 10:16:43 PM
Well, Rohrbaugh's own site shows

13.5 + 1.6 and that is 15.1 oz

http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/products

Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on September 05, 2011, 10:20:52 PM

All I see is 13.5 oz. "unloaded." Am I missing something?
In any case, I don't wish to pocket carry anything heavier than the R9.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 05, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
They show a picture with the empty gun on a digital scale and a empty mag beside it on a separate digital scale.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on September 05, 2011, 10:38:45 PM

Ok, thanks, and mine weighs a bit more with a mag extension. I like the Borberg but can't see it as a pocket carry.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 05, 2011, 10:40:16 PM
That's understandable.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on September 05, 2011, 10:47:59 PM

So, other than the new whiz bang, what is the carry option?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 05, 2011, 11:01:40 PM
I'm going with front pocket.  The weight won't bother me, heck, I'm 275lbs myself.  Lol.   I guess we won't know until you have in hand to see what will work for that person.  
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on September 05, 2011, 11:14:53 PM

It is very unique and a well conceived design.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 06, 2011, 10:31:11 AM
I do like the unique design.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: MRC on September 06, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
My R9 weighs in at 18.0 oz loaded with 115 gr, the PM9 at 19.7 loaded with 115 gr, so that means the Boberg comes in at 20.5 oz.  I would have no trouble with that.

I do not notice thae extra weight of the PM9, it is the square top of the slide I notice in my pocket.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 06, 2011, 11:49:22 AM
I agree, MRC.  I would have no problems with the weight, either.  As to whether I would carry the Boberg over the R9 or Seecamp remains to be seen; probably not, however, it would receive some carry time I'm sure.  

I like new and interesting ideas and the Boberg fits that concept along with a quality look.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 09, 2011, 10:41:29 PM
The first batch of guns (53) have now been shipped.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 09, 2011, 10:42:43 PM
Corey.  Was one of the 53 yours?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 09, 2011, 11:13:39 PM
Yep!   8)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 09, 2011, 11:24:46 PM
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Yep!   8)

Hot dog!  Congrats!    :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: xaman on September 09, 2011, 11:30:57 PM
Great news, congrats!
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 10, 2011, 07:42:12 PM
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Ken I think the next group or orders will be very soon.  Maybe you will be in that group.   Do you remember when you got on the list?  I got on it 2-19-2008 I think.

Corey.  I got an email from Arnie today at 3:59 PM saying I am in the next group with the notification going out on Monday.  Sounds good!  

  
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 10, 2011, 08:36:43 PM
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Corey.  I got an email from Arnie today at 3:59 PM saying I am in the next group with the notification going out on Monday.  Sounds good!  

  

Great Ken,  how many you getting?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 10, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
I signed up for one, but will take two if I can.  How about you?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 10, 2011, 09:14:41 PM
You should be able to get two consecutive ones and they might be under serial number 100.  That would be neat.  I'm getting two.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 10, 2011, 09:20:31 PM
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You should be able to get two consecutive ones and they might be under serial number 100.  That would be neat.  I'm getting two.

Excellent, Corey.  Arnie's email said my S/N (s) may be under 100, so maybe I can get two.  That would be neat!
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 10, 2011, 10:14:21 PM
Just found the first review.

http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&p=286271

(http://www.mnguntalk.com/download/file.php?id=8600&sid=e16b11b5c17e8867e5cdc39242cd264b&mode=view)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 11, 2011, 10:28:51 AM
Well now that there shipping one of you new owners needs to start a Boberg forum. ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 11, 2011, 10:47:28 AM
http://www.bobergarms.com/forum
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 11, 2011, 11:20:06 AM
I'm a member on there but was referring to a non owner operated site. ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: JohnBT on September 12, 2011, 04:06:26 PM
If I were to wrap my left index finger around the front of the trigger guard, would the muzzle blast singe the skin and the burn the hair?

Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Corvette on September 12, 2011, 09:47:02 PM
After a long but very worthwhile wait, I'm holding a brand new Boberg XR9 in my hand.
The workmanship is absolutely incredible and the grip / feel is perfect.
The term "work of art" gets tossed around a lot in the gun world.
It really fits this time.
Yes, as you can tell, I'm excited about this little gun!
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 12, 2011, 09:53:52 PM
Congrats, Curt.  I got my notification today, and sent in payment by Boberg's website.  Should have mine in eight to nine weeks from now per Arnie.

I know you're one happy Boberg owner!    :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 12, 2011, 11:58:53 PM
Curt, where are all the cool pics and range reports?    Congrats on the early Boberg,  what number did you get?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 13, 2011, 12:15:27 AM
Are they as ugly in person as in the pics ?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Corvette on September 13, 2011, 08:19:10 AM
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Are they as ugly in person as in the pics ?

Actually, it feels better in my hand and I feel looks better than my Rohrbaugh.
But then again, I don't buy hand guns because I like they way they look.
What matters to me are things like the ability to use +P ammunition, no limp-wristing, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC5uVGMXS8k and not having to replace a spring every 200 + rounds.
Little things like that.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 13, 2011, 08:48:12 AM
Different strokes for different folks. Function is always most important and my pup has been 100% with any ammo from day one.
It's nice to have a good working and good looking gun ;D

+P is not the best thing since sliced bread and tends to be a little overrated by some, good quality standard pressure ammo with proper shot placement will kill you just as quick and a poorly placed +P shot is will have no more benefit.:D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Corvette on September 13, 2011, 09:28:18 AM
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Different strokes for different folks. Function is always most important and my pup has been 100% with any ammo from day one.
It's nice to have a good working and good looking gun ;D

+P is not the best thing since sliced bread and tends to be a little overrated by some, good quality standard pressure ammo with proper shot placement will kill you just as quick and a poorly placed +P shot is will have no more benefit.:D

Yes, function will always trump apprearance when it comes to firearms.
I certainly won't get into a "Rohrbaugh vs Boberg contest".
Both are truly excellent guns.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 13, 2011, 09:50:50 AM
Why does the +p shot always have to be poorly placed?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Corvette on September 13, 2011, 12:24:38 PM
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+P is not the best thing since sliced bread and tends to be a little overrated by some, good quality standard pressure ammo with proper shot placement will kill you just as quick and a poorly placed +P shot is will have no more benefit.:D

WADR, if my gun wasn't able to shoot +P's, I'd probably write something very similar.
But, I don't have to.  :)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 13, 2011, 12:37:24 PM
Curt.  Have you made plans or gotten a holster for the Boberg yet?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Corvette on September 13, 2011, 12:44:42 PM
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Curt.  Have you made plans or gotten a holster for the Boberg yet?

Yes, but for the life of me I can't remember who makes it.
He's a member here.
It's a soft holster.

Update: It's a Remora Series 4A-ART soft holster.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 13, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
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Yes, but for the life of me I can't remember who makes it.
He's a member here.
It's a soft holster.

I put in an order with Meco today for a pocket holster with delivery in 4 to 6 weeks.  It will be here before the Boberg.    :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 13, 2011, 01:33:29 PM
There's actually four holster makers listed on the Boberg website; Side Guard, JS Holster, Hidden Holsters, and Meco.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 13, 2011, 03:48:30 PM
Robert at Meco just sent me an email saying he had a holster ready to go like I ordered and would ship tomorrow.  Man!  That is fast service.  Thanks, Robert!
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 13, 2011, 04:24:11 PM
Can't beat that with a stick!
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 13, 2011, 06:12:38 PM
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WADR, if my gun wasn't able to shoot +P's, I'd probably write something very similar.
But, I don't have to.  :)


I'm reasonably sure if if I carried the R9 with +Ps and had to use it in defense of myself or loved ones it would work fine and be none the worse for wear after one mag. :D
  I'm glad the Bobergs are shipping and hope they make a go of it. Like any other gun if it appealed to me I would get one, it just doesn't. It's different but just doesn't have enough WOW factor to make me want one.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Corvette on September 13, 2011, 07:08:30 PM
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I'm reasonably sure if if I carried the R9 with +Ps and had to use it in defense of myself or loved ones it would work fine and be none the worse for wear after one mag. :D
  I'm glad the Bobergs are shipping and hope they make a go of it. Like any other gun if it appealed to me I would get one, it just doesn't. It's different but just doesn't have enough WOW factor to make me want one.

We all want to say that we "own the "best".

I think the concern from a lot of R9 owners will be the realization that the new Boberg has the potential to knock the R9 off the Pocket 9mm throne.
And if any gun can do it, it's the Boberg.
(And this is coming from a still very proud R9 owner).
The Boberg is that good.

Is there room at the top for two?
We'll see.



Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 13, 2011, 10:20:30 PM
Looks like Meco got part of his order in today.   :o  

I can't wait for Christmas, hint, hint....  ;D

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x275/ccaallaahhaann/Boberg/MECO.jpg)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 14, 2011, 10:45:50 AM
WOW!  Congrats, Robert!    :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: K-Man on September 14, 2011, 12:27:09 PM
Just a quick note that we're able to make holsters for the Boberg, too.  ;)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Chief-USN on September 14, 2011, 01:44:28 PM
Due to the rather longish "tail" on the gun, I am curious as to how easily it is extracted from a pocket compared to a Rourbaugh. Looks like alot of chances for snagging. where with the Rohrbaugh one's hand acts somewhat as a ramp or slide when pulling it, cannot do that with the Boberg. Or  am I wrong? (That could never be  ;D )

 Chief
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 14, 2011, 01:58:18 PM
I'll know in about eight weeks!    ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Chief-USN on September 14, 2011, 02:00:05 PM
 I looked on their site, cannot find a price anywhere.  How much is this thing?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 14, 2011, 02:03:02 PM
$949.00.   :)  
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Chief-USN on September 14, 2011, 02:07:45 PM
hmmmmmm, sounds like a nice 1911, or AR-15, or some good optics.........  Hope this gun works it is in Kimber Solo and Rohrbaugh range also at that price point.

 Trying not to get another itch that needs scratching  ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 14, 2011, 02:11:53 PM
I understand completely.  Only preorders are being filled right now, so may would take awhile for a non-preorder to be taken; however, one can still get on the preorder list which now the preorder form is on line on the Boberg website.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 14, 2011, 10:55:35 PM
 I picked up mine today.  The fit and finish are impeccable and it feels great in the hand too.  I can't wait till Friday when I get to test one of them out.  I think Arne has hit a home run with these.  Time will tell for others but for me, I LOVE IT!  I was also fortunate enough to score the slide from the prototype taken to the 2008 shot show.

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x275/ccaallaahhaann/Boberg/IMAG0149.jpg)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 14, 2011, 11:10:05 PM
Excellent, Corey.  I'm liking it already.  Great, on the prototype slide.  
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 15, 2011, 11:24:01 AM
I couldn't wait till tomorrow.    ;D

http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid181.photobucket.com/albums/x275/ccaallaahhaann/Boberg/VIDEO0002.mp4
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 15, 2011, 08:10:19 PM
Corey.  Fantastic.  Thanks for the video.  The Boberg is one fine shootin' gun; I can hardly wait.  Going to be a long two months.  Glad you couldn't wait!    ;D  
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Auto.default on September 15, 2011, 08:38:00 PM
CWC, looks like she's a shooter..  thanks for the vid...
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Reinz on September 15, 2011, 08:52:19 PM
Thanks Corey!
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Moonshine on September 16, 2011, 11:59:27 AM
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Corey,

Slight difference in R9 weight with mag, 14.3 oz., according to this.

http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/ccm_r9.pdf


Tracker and CWC, ya'll got me curious, so I took some weights using a My Weigh Precision Balance (claimed accuracy is within .1 gram).

My R9s unloaded, but with an empty mag is 15.13 oz.  Loaded with 7 rounds of Gold Dot 124 gr the total loaded weight is 18.18 oz.  That's using a mag without an extension, and with a set of VZ G10 grips installed.

Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Reinz on September 16, 2011, 09:55:17 PM
Moonshine, you got me curious now.

So I weighed my 3.  Not as a rebuttal or to be argumentative, just curious as you.  There seems to be some discreprentcies out there.

My scale is a commercial electronic one used for measuring tare weights.  It picks up a 90 gr bullet in a 5k lot, so it is pretty accurate.

R9 no sights empty - 12.64 oz
W/Designer Grips - modified

w/ full mag 124 gr GD - 16.8 oz


R9s with OEM CF grips empty  - 12.96 oz

w/ full mag of 147 G/Sabers - 17.44 oz


R9s w/ VZ cf Grips  - 13.12 oz

w/full mag of 124 GD - 17.28 oz


No mag extensions, and 6 rounds only

Would like to hear what others have too.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 16, 2011, 11:28:19 PM
I'll see what mine weighs in at if I get a chance before I leave on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: tracker on September 16, 2011, 11:36:50 PM

~17 oz. with 6 vs. 18 oz. loaded with 7 works for me.

y no mas, por favor.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Moonshine on September 17, 2011, 12:40:02 AM
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Moonshine, you got me curious now.

So I weighed my 3.  Not as a rebuttal or to be argumentative, just curious as you.  There seems to be some discreprentcies out there.

My scale is a commercial electronic one used for measuring tare weights.  It picks up a 90 gr bullet in a 5k lot, so it is pretty accurate.

R9 no sights empty - 12.64 oz
W/Designer Grips - modified

w/ full mag 124 gr GD - 16.8 oz


R9s with OEM CF grips empty  - 12.96 oz

w/ full mag of 147 G/Sabers - 17.44 oz


R9s w/ VZ cf Grips  - 13.12 oz

w/full mag of 124 GD - 17.28 oz


No mag extensions, and 6 rounds only

Would like to hear what others have too.

Holy cow, that's quite a difference.  I wonder if the difference is in the scales, the guns, or both?  Yes, definitely, others need to chime in.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: MRC on September 17, 2011, 08:31:42 AM
Standard R9s, VZ grips, Mag Extension, 7 rounds 115 gr GD

18 oz.

PM9 with 7 rounds of 115 GD and mag extension

19.7 oz.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Ljutic on September 17, 2011, 05:41:14 PM
From my spreadsheet titled "Honest Weights".  Everything is loaded to full capacity with GD 124 grain.  All have stock magazines w/o any extenders.  All measurements taken on the same scale.

DiamondBack DB9      15.9
Rohrbaugh R9s      18.1
Kahr PM9      19.6
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Moonshine on September 17, 2011, 07:29:46 PM
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Kahr PM9      19.6

That's spot on with what I came up with for my PM9, same mag, same ammo.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 17, 2011, 08:40:05 PM
Unloaded Pup with no mag = 13.1oz

Unloaded with empty mag = 14.9oz

With full mag & loaded (124gr Winchester Rangers), hooked mag extension and designer grips = 18.3oz

As above in Keeton pocket holster = 20.4oz
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on September 17, 2011, 08:41:39 PM
With a couple of Boberg owners having there guns lets see some real loaded and unloaded weights. :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Corvette on September 17, 2011, 08:49:37 PM
I just weighed my Boberg filled with hollow points.
It was approx. 21.7 oz.
This was done with a rather inexpensive kitchen diet scale so I don't know it's accuracy.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Douglas on September 18, 2011, 12:26:17 PM
R9S with stock G-10 grips.

13.30 oz/377 grams - empty, no magazine.

18.35 oz/520 grams - loaded with seven rounds of Speer 147g Gold Dots.

Stock magazine with six rounds of Speer 147g Gold Dots is 4.55 oz/129 grams

One round of the Speer 147g Gold Dot is .50 oz/14grams.

All the numbers work out, and that's all on an inexpensive OHAUS CS-2000 digital scale, primarily used to monitor the weight of my tortoise.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Reinz on September 18, 2011, 09:37:47 PM
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that's all on an inexpensive OHAUS CS-2000 digital scale, primarily used to monitor the weight of my tortoise.


Guess it's kinda hard to tell if your tortise is getting fat by just lookin'.  :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Douglas on September 18, 2011, 10:20:59 PM
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Guess it's kinda hard to tell if your tortise is getting fat by just lookin'.  :D


Gettin' skinny is more the concern!   ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Reinz on September 19, 2011, 11:46:59 PM
I understand.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Ljutic on September 23, 2011, 05:01:59 PM
Well, I decided to jump on the list.  Based on the current size of the list, it could be some time before I get the call but that's ok.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 23, 2011, 06:12:24 PM
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Well, I decided to jump on the list.  Based on the current size of the list, it could be some time before I get the call but that's ok.

Congrats on getting the list, Ljutic.  I'm countin' down the days!    :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Corvette on September 23, 2011, 07:00:53 PM
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Well, I decided to jump on the list.  Based on the current size of the list, it could be some time before I get the call but that's ok.

It will be WELL worth the wait.
I was fortunate to be one of the first to receive one.
It's an incredible handgun.
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Ljutic on September 24, 2011, 12:16:30 AM
I justified it by promising myself that I wouldn't buy anything new until the Boberg was ready.  So, this could be a real money saver for me.   ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on September 29, 2011, 10:49:37 AM
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I justified it by promising myself that I wouldn't buy anything new until the Boberg was ready.  So, this could be a real money saver for me.   ;D

Time flies, now days; think I'm seven weeks or less.    :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: Ljutic on October 13, 2011, 02:13:52 PM
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I justified it by promising myself that I wouldn't buy anything new until the Boberg was ready.  So, this could be a real money saver for me.   ;D

Dumb promise.  I just couldn't resist this sexy Italian 92 Compact last week.  Then you gotta have spare mags.  

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/BDSBruce/Wireless/857e1638.jpg)

Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on October 13, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
You just had to break the promise to yourself, didn't you, Ljutic?  Very nice!    :)
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on October 13, 2011, 03:17:45 PM
there will be used Bobergs on the market before too long, maybe you can snag a bargain. ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on October 13, 2011, 03:19:48 PM
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there will be used Bobergs on the market before too long, maybe you can snag a bargain. ;D

I'm five weeks and counting down, for a new one!    ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on October 13, 2011, 03:20:37 PM
There is a new one on Gun Broker, bid is @ $800 and ten days to go. ;D

 Bid once and bid high. ;D ;D

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=255359344
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on October 13, 2011, 03:22:03 PM
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There is a new one on Gun Broker, bid is @ $800 and ten days to go. ;D

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=255359344

Reserve, not met!    ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on October 13, 2011, 03:23:24 PM
Thats why I said bid once and bid HIGH. :D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on October 13, 2011, 03:24:48 PM
Your original post didn't have that!    ;D
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: yankee2500 on October 13, 2011, 03:55:26 PM
Your right but my edit was one minute before your reply. :o
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on October 13, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
That's right too, but as you see, I had already clicked quote and got it before your edit.    :o
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on October 13, 2011, 04:10:31 PM
who cares?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: kjtrains on October 13, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
Corey.  How many rds through the Boberg now?
Title: Re: Boberg
Post by: ccoorreeyy on October 13, 2011, 04:24:21 PM
Just over 1000.  It's proven itself to me now so the volume of shots will slow way down now.