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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh Accessories => Topic started by: RJ HEDLEY on October 12, 2004, 07:19:45 AM
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I have changed my Limited Edition holster for the better. Haven't come to the final cut yet.
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RJ:
I like it! I like it a lot! If I'm not mistaken, that follows the design which you originally suggested to Eric Rohrbaugh.
RS
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Very nice.
One suggestion: reduce the size of the flap extending from the top of the slide by about 1/2, and increase the width of the flap extending under the grip by about the same amount to keep the overall width the same. I think this would position the gun in a better overall location.
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Will you make one with an added magazine slip, under the grip? I hope. I like the extra mag holder under the grip to break up the print-through outline.
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Billin Pittsburgh
I trimmed about a 1/4" from the barrel rib, dressed it up and sent it on to my *field tester*, It may still be too wide for average pockets.
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Mr_Jody_Hudson
Don't plan to add mag to holster, it quite a pocket full as it is. But thank you for looking and considering it..
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>>I'm liking this, a lot...! You are quite a talented fellow, RJ...wishing I could do anything with my hands that turned out as nice as your holsters...would be very rewarding. But I can't, so it's nice to admire the fine work of others. In particular I admire your stich work.
I too am curious about the availabliity / looks of a holster with a magazine slip under the grip. Might this be down the road...?...TW<<
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"I too am curious about the availabliity / looks of a holster with a magazine slip under the grip." TW
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Looking a photos and seeing the mag under the grip..?... It is very different when trying to actually put it there.
The gun/ holster is quite a pocket full ,weight wise. In big loose pockets the ertra weight causes a swinging motion that is unnatural and uncomfortable.
Just can't buy the attached mag idea, for many other reasons.
Thanks for your comments..
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If you want an attached mag carrier, you can look to Kevin's Pocket Defender Plus. It is pictured in the ad that rotates across the top of the forum, or you can go to www.kdholsters.com. It will be a pocketfull -- but will certainly work.
The "other reasons" I think RJ is referring to is that carrying a spare mag in your strong side pocket is not ideal. Carrying on your weak side would be better. To reload with the mag in your strong side pocket requires you to shift the gun to the other hand to dig the mag out, which is not ideal from a tactical perspective.
However, not everyone will dedicate two pockets to concealed carry and figure a spare mag in the strong side pocket is better than none at all. For those people -- a built-in mag carrier is a good solution.
I personally prefer the spare mag in the strong side pocket, as RJ suggests.
BTW -- nice holster, R.J.
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If I can get this gun to work in my hands, I'll definitely be ordering up one of your holsters. The Desantis Nemesis just doesn't cut it for certain pockets.
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Sweet looking holster RJ...
just so ya know, I am going to rip off that design in about a month ;D
Although I am gonna add 2 things to it, JUST so I can call it an original...lol
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Hi RJ,
That is beautiful leather which shows superb workmanship. Thank you for the pictures.
Frank
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>>RJ...thanks for the insights into the practicalities of pocket holster design. Points taken...TW<<
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RJ, you make a great holster, you will be hearing from me in a few days as my R9S will be here the end of this month!! Thanks again, Jim, (in the thumb of Mi.)
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RJ:
I was delighted to receive in today's mail the prototype of your newly designed Limited Edition holster for the R9s, and I am honored to serve as a "Field Tester" for the design.
The materials and workmanship of the holster are superb, as is the case with all of your work. The curvature of this design seems to be a real advantage. I am using the holster now to carry strong-side front pocket, and I find it to be so comfortable that I am hardly aware of the weapon's presence.
I'll report back after carrying the holster around for a few days, but my initial impression is that it represents a perfect union of form and function. In other words, RJ, I think you may have really "nailed it" with this design.
RS
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RJ,
Would you ever consider extending the holster up to conceal and protect the slide a bit more?
I know being in the pocket is pretty rough on the finish in the long term and I would think that this may help.. :)
Thanks for considering this..I like the new design..
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RJ, can you create a wet mold design with a back cover to conceal the outline with a snug fit and a seperate slot just under the trigger for holding the spare magazine? Something like this ...
(http://fud-files.netfirms.com/image/private/guns/welmold.jpg)
... but in wetmold and a slot for the spare mag?
Would you consider doing it as a custom job if you don't want to make it as part of your regulars offerings?
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I like it. What are the dimensions?
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Brenden
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Fudster
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RJ:
After a week of field testing the prototype of your newly designed Limited Edition holster, I'm prepared to say that it is absolutely superb! I recommend it to anyone who chooses to carry a pistol in his or her front pocket.
I'm sending the prototype back to you with my personal check in the hope that you will agree to sell it to me and monogram it with my initials on the slide area. If you prefer to keep the prototype for your own collection, please create a monogrammed duplicate for me. In my not-so-humble opinion, this new design with its curved back panel is the most significant advance in pocket holsters since you developed the full counter-print panel "Back Pocket" model some years ago.
RS
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Would it be possible to get a picture of this new little holster??? This could likely be the one for me!
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Jody:
There are photographs of the holster in the first post on page 1 of this thread.
RS
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OK, Thanks!
I was confused ??? ??? :-/
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Jody:
Judging from your web site, I suspect that you are rarely, if ever, "confused."
This new holster of RJ's has really impressed me. Yes, RJ is a friend of mine. But this new design will speak for itself.
RS
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Thanks Richard ;D
My confusion was from the second picture and thinking it may have been a new and unique pocket holster with a magazine pouch. :'(
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I like RJ's new design, but I'd still like to know its dimensions?
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George
Richard is returning the test holster, I will measure and post soon. The dimensions can be varied in width to some degree, but there will never be a mag carrier attached. Width is a critical dimension and a mag in that position would make it worthless for concealment, IMO.
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George:
According to my measurements, the new holster is 5" wide and 4" high.
RS
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George and Richard ,[Thanks, RS]
But the holster can be 4"x 4", if desired.
** Pockets are all different**
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"Width is a critical dimension and a mag in that position would make it worthless for concealment, IMO. " RJ=
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Maybe I need to add a few words here. This holster is a very special holster, It shares the look of my Limited Edition holster, but it is very different in the way it feels in the pocket, due to the completely different construction. The purpose is to be a more body conforming holster, for the tougher job of concealing when other holsters will not work.
The number one question I get is, "Will this holster print in my pocket?"... Very hard to answer, as *said pocket* is not in my view. So, this holster is to answer that question, and if it doesn't, I don't have the answer.
The number two question is, "Can you add a mag carrier to this holster?"
++++++++My main goal is Concealment+++++++++++.
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RJ:
The curvature of this holster does indeed permit it to conform exceptionally well to the wearer's leg when carried in the pocket. I can't say enough in praise of this new design of yours.
As for the question of pocket CCW, I routinely have the seamstress at my local laundry/dry-cleaner deepen by about three inches the right-front pocket of every new pair of trousers, slacks, or cargo pants I purchase. She refers to the job as "making a holster holster," and she's become very good at it. The deepened pocket prevents any "Nosey Nellies" standing behind me in checkout lines from possibly catching a glimpse of the butt of the pistol in my pocket.
I shall try to get the prototype back to you in tomorrow's mail for either monogramming or duplication. The truth is that I don't want to let it go.
RS
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Richard
Keep the holster until you receive the one with the initials. No problem my friend..
RJ=
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RJ:
As I have said before, you are truly "a gentleman and a scholar." Thank you!
RS
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Good looking holster you have there RJ..it should do well.
Best,
Ron Graham
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Thanks, Ron
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RJ, what are you calling this holster? Just in case I would like to order one, and also how long do you think you will keep it in production?
Thanks RJ.
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...........the new style LE [Limited Edition]
Thanks for your interest..
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RJ, the Limited front pocket holster currently on your site looks very different from this one. I realize this thread is quite old now, but I was wondering what motovated the changes.
I see the one on your site is more square and has fancy stitching near the top.
Also, I have a question about the width. The Fist Inc kydex holster I have for my P32 is exactly as wide as my pockets. I'm wondering if thei is the goal, or if its better to have the holster a little narrower? Any thoughts?
Thank you...
Jim
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The "New" look of the "LE" was to be posted on my site, as
another choice on my Site, but time to develop methods &
patterns have yet to be found. It is a great, comfortable holster, and is available on request, from those that know about it... ;D
Width... This is important, I have always invited customers to request their desired widths.. You must remember, I make holsters to fit the average Pocket, which happens to be mine.. ;D
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Hi RJ, thanks for the reply. I like the looks of this new one better, without the extra stitching on the top. Is that extra little lump on the right side a thumb pushoff to help draw?
What do you feel the advantages and disadvantages of this new one over the one that's on your site are?
What's the pricing for the new one?
Thanks!
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The New "LE" is light and confortable. The fit is at near "O" retention, and a some guys don't grasp that . They are still thinking "Belt holster with heavy retention"..
It is not easy to make, yet.. I am still working on it in my spare time, which I don't have enough of...
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I assume that "0" retention means zero retention. What I am still trying to figure out is the comment about the little bump. I don't see a bump, so I'm confused?
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Thanks for the reply RJ. How do I order one?
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http://www.hedleyholsters.com/ Is the web site, but I am closed as to orders right now, my back log is killing me. Will re open as soon as I get caught up..