The Rohrbaugh Forum
Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: R9SCarry on July 09, 2004, 02:11:19 AM
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I guess for most part - most of us here are semi auto users ... R9 is .... of course, but seems like most folks have an auto in larger form too.
I have auto's ... and have carried them ....... from P series Rugers, to compact 1911. Even too smaller stuff like Bersa and Mak.
However, as some may remember me saying ..... my daily carry - of choice - is and has been now for some time - my Ruger SP-101.
I think this is in part due to my ''teething'' a quarter century ago and more - on revo's anyways. I used a M686 almost exclusively for many years of competition.
I am not saying that auto's are perforce ''jamomatics'' but - I have to say, the rugged simplicity of a revo always appeals and I have greater confidence in them .. I shoot D/A quite well too.
The round count is necessarily lower ... I have five and then just one speedloader. Tho heck ... if that ain't enough, then things are gonna be BAD!!
Do we have ANY revo folks?? I mean, much as I adore my R9s .. it is not top of the list for choice when circumstances permit my revo. It'll be BUG or .......... the absolute ideal for deep conceal cases when clothing is so skimpy - I'd nearly be arrested for exposure!! ;D
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Don't assume to much R9SCarry... I am a confirmed revolver shooter.
My primary carry gun is a S&W 342. When that is too big for the pants I am wearing (mostly when wearing a suit), the nod went to the P-3AT or soon the R-9s.
When I compete in IPSC I shoot a S&W 625 Mountain Gun in .45 ACP. I am going today to order my new S&W PC revolver -- more on that later.
I learned to shoot with wheelguns (first a Ruger single-action, then on to Colts and Smiths and even a Dan Wesson) and feel most comfortable with them. I like the simplicity of handling and the manual of arms. I am very comfortable with the DA trigger and shoot revolvers well.
That being said, the R-9s does offer a slimmer package than a j-frame and will fill a niche. It is a bit "revolver-like" in that it is a true DAO and not exactly a fast reload, given the mag release, lack of slide lock, etc. I think of the R-9 a lot like a 7 shot 9mm "snub nose." ;D
I like the feeling of beating semi-auto shooters with my 625 at IPSC. I believe that truly good shooters need to be able to handle a revolver. If you master that, a semi-auto is a piece of cake. (Said with my tongue planted lightly in my cheek.)
Wheel guns are real guns!
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Rock on Duane .... of course - I forgot what you'd said re your 625!! Glad to have a ''wheelie buddy'' on the team! ;D
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Just today I put my money down for a S&W Performance Center 586 L-Comp. That is going to be a sweet gun.
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Jim - welcome! :)
My daily carry is almost always SP-101 (with CT grips :) ) .. pretty much a J frame really but of course not exactly lightweight. I normally carry belt slide OWB .. hi-ride ... and it suits me very well ... my draw is fast and useful.
However i have tried pocket now and again with that .. weight is very evident as you'd expect but ... to me revo's are a problem simply cos of cyl bulge. Not pocket for me with them.
The R9 is so essentially flat - that is it's big strength and tho heavier than say P-3AT ... is in the right rig very unprintworthy. So for me ... no contest!
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R9SCarry......thanks for the thoughts and the welcome. This is off topic in a Rohrbaugh forum, but what do you think of CT grips. To me and my aging eyes they are fantastic. I can draw and hit target multiple times before gun reaches eye level. I am slowly buying them for several other handguns and cannot say enough good things about them. I do have them on Kimber ultra carry and sig 229. They are good on those guns , but they are truly outstanding on j frame revolver. Anyone who carries j frame should try them, you wont be sorry.
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I agree with the value of the Crimson Trace grips on a small revolver -- they are fantastic. I don't have a set for my current j-frame, but I will have a set again soon. It just gives you a lot more options. Suddenly your fixed iron sight gun has "adjustable night sights" so to speak!
CT grips would be a natural for the Rohrbaugh if they can make them that small/thin.
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Jim ..... there have been several threads over on THR about CT grips .... for the most part they are well spoken of.
Like you tho, and Duane .... I LOVE them!! My first set went on the SP ... and I cannot speak highly enough of them. I also have added them to a M629-6 and an M28-2 ... the latter I carry in winter at various times.
I still shoot as if ''irons only'' ... I won't change that habit as a primary method but .... as I am shooting, there is my red dot showing as well .. if I can see it and wish to use it.... which is sorta instinctive anyways I guess.
Last Saturday I was eating thru a box of 38 spl reloads .. for draw practice .... and despite cloudy/bright conditions .... I could still see the red dot on target ..... only 5 yards I admit. I was finding tho that, as I drew and came up on target with irons (as well as almost ''point'' shooting) ... I did register the dot sufficient to get a confirmation of ''usefullness'' of the shot or shots.
Had it not been there, I'd not have been compromized one bit but - it was a ''plus'' ...... an adjunct, that made for better results. I did 'draw and one' ..... 'draw and double-tap' ... and 'draw and all 5' ... all the time, that dot was just visible and I think aiding placement.
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Chris:
Ho do the CT grips effect perceived recoil in your S&W 629-6?
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[size=16]How do the CT grips effect perceived recoil in your S&W 629-6?[/size]
Mike - I find no obvious difference, when compared with std wood grips or the Hogues that were on originally. I guess the CT plastic grips are just a tad ''harder'' and so do not seem to ''absorb'' recoil as much as perhaps the Hogues. Minor point tho really for me.
With hot loads that gun is a tad punishing, eventually ... regardless of grips and certaining assessing the ''perceived'' recoil .. the only comment might be that the CT grips are a tad less comfortable with regard to the hand web .... too many rounds and you do know it!
Having said that - I consider they are still an excellent addition.
(http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/thr/cb_gun2/6296_01_s.jpg)
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Revolvers are my first love, and I do have a few! ;)
(http://img19.exs.cx/img19/8039/16519705lg.jpg)
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Same here, I learned to shoot originally on a S&W Model 19. Carried one of the early 686's when I was a reserve Deputy with a local county.
I can often be found with this in my pocket (at least until the R9 shows up!)
(http://www.condron.com/pics/340/340wood3.JPG)
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For you wheelgun lovers, here is a pic of my S&W Performance Center 586 L-Comp that is on the way. I managed to get one of only 40 in this renewed run.
(http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DDGator/586_L-comp.jpg)
Its a horserace to see which gets here first, the L-Comp or the R-9s!
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I'd imagine that is gonna be a real sweet shooter .. only reservation I'd have (purely personal) is the grips as shown ..... I think they'd be way too short for me.
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It also comes with a set of the regular L-Frame Hogue grips -- which will be better for shooting, but not as good for carry.
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Aha ..... makes total sense ... :)
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Mostly, in hot weather I will have a S&W Mdl 638 with the shrouded hammer somewhere about my person. The Airweight has a Barami Hip-Grip and Melvin Tyler's "T-Grip" spacer attached.
The Guardian is in a hip-pocket holster.
For what its worth, I have the shrouded hammer because of the extra leverage that is available to index the cylinder should there be a pierced primer or lint, etc., accumulate around the cylinder star, hand, etc.
Also, two Bianchi speed strips fit nicely into an empty Altoids breath mint can.
saltydog452
ps...
If I am waring a holster, its a Kahr on the hip and the Guardian in the off hip-pocket.
salty.
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Hi everyone, I'm posting a revolver question here to save space. DDGator your welcome. ;D
I have an Armsor 200 38spl my uncle gave me. Actually I bought him a Taurus 85 ultralite with the pearl grips and gold as he likes pretty guns. He gave me this Armscor and told me it was misfiring which didn't surprise me being a low end gun. I'd like to fix it before I sell or trade it as I'd just hate to put someone with a misfiring gun.
The problem is the "gearing?" is worn on the part that ejects the spent shells which also is what makes the cylinder turn. Its causing it to slip past a round here and there. What is this part called and how hard are they to remove? Do I need a special tool and if so, what is it called?
Any answers/advice will be appreciated! Thanks!
Gunner
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By the way, the part I'm describing is the piece that fits into the center of the cylinder that raises the shells for easy unloading. I think there is a general name for it on all revolvers with an ejection system. It works just like DA Smiths and such.
9mil.mouse recomended Gun Parts Corp but they offer no diagrams or parts for these revolvers. Thanks though Mouse!
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I'm guessing it would be called the ejector, aka the star. Really, that thing that pushes out the used brass in most revolvers is usually called an ejector. 8)
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Just sent it back to Smith under their lifetime repair.... oh, a what? Armscor? Never heard of it.
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Hi gunner930,
I have never heard of an Armscor. On a S&W revolver the part you are describing is the ejector star and the part of the star that is worn on your gun is what S&W calls the ratchets. Unless you are a gunsmith or armorer you can not install the star with the ratchets yourself on a S&W revolver since they have to be cut with a ratchet cutter and hand fitted with a Barrett file for the revolver to be timed and work correctly. It has to be handfitted to work in conjunction with the "hand", which is the part that turns the cylinder, so that the cylinder turns and lines up with the barrel at the same time that the hammer drops. The usual solution, on a S&W, to worn ratchets is to fit a slightly oversized hand instead of replacing the star. You would only replace the star in an extreme case.
I hope this helps,
Frank
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Thanks Frank and Mouse! An Armscor is kinda a Colt revolver copy but definately not of Colt quality. They are made in the Phillipines. I had never heard of them either. Just your basic "Saturday night special" cheapy.
Its probebly worth no more than 75.00 if it was functional. I may just junk it for parts.
Thanks again for the info. I have learned more than I knew. :)