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Offline backupr9

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Help please
« on: February 09, 2012, 07:05:25 PM »
R9 Covert arrived from Rohrbaugh after being sent back for issues with not returning to battery.   Arrived UPS about an hour ago...no explanation of what was done of course.  I had, as instructed, replaced my VZ grips with the originals before shipping back to them.  I tried to put the VZ's back on and 3 of the screws came out, albeit with some effort and a white substance on the screw threads, but the forward one on the right side will not move even with heat from a pencil type soldering iron...the damn screw has now been stripped and I can't get it to move.  The guns come from them with screws that fall out after firing 50 rounds, but now they cement the dang things in!
What next...go to a gunsmith?  send it back?  I assume the screw will have to be bored out, but I really don't want to have it done by someone who hasn't a clue what they are doing.  Advice appreciated!  John
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Re: Help please
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 07:17:45 PM »
This one should be on their nickel; just call them and relate the facts. I would not touch it or have someone bore it out.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 08:25:01 PM by tracker »

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Re: Help please
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 07:32:44 PM »
What tracker said.
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Re: Help please
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 07:47:16 PM »
John,

 It should go back to them ASAP. Like you, I would like to know what they did to the pistol. I would also like to know what product they put on the screws. I have not seen a "white" color product used on screws. I thought "Loctite" was the big product but that could be a regional thing.

 Good luck and hang in there! Oh, what was their turn around time on the return?

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Re: Help please
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 08:29:14 PM »
Sorry to hear about your experience. I would call Maria to get it rectified.
I am sure they will take care of it in a timely Manor.

I have always used a HUDY precision Allen wrench since the first time I stripped out a grip screw. I was able to get the stripped screw out with a torx bit however. I purchased it from A Main Hobby online, I forget the Allen size.

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Re: Help please
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 08:39:06 PM »
Backup,

Sorry to hear about your problems, and there would be nothing more frustrating than back to back trips to the factory. Hopefully they take good care of you. I would be interested to learn what was stopping it from returning to battery if you ever get that info. Keep us posted.

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Re: Help please
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 08:39:44 PM »
Sorry to hear about your experience. I would call Maria to get it rectified.
I am sure they will take care of it in a timely Manor.

I have always used a HUDY precision Allen wrench since the first time I stripped out a grip screw. I was able to get the stripped screw out with a torx bit however. I purchased it from A Main Hobby online, I forget the Allen size.

size.....my hex allen is 1/16 in..............1.5875mm
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Re: Help please
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 08:47:42 PM »

I bought a Hudy also but the driver is not the problem; it has always been the factory screws that caused the difficulty, apparently compounded in this case by some overzealous loctite treatment. This is a weak link that should have been addressed long ago by the factory.

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Re: Help please
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 08:50:17 PM »

I bought a Hudy also but the driver is not the problem; it has always been the factory screws that caused the difficulty, apparently compounded in this case by some overzealous loctite treatment. This is a weak link that should have been addressed long ago by the factory.

Do you think a 1911 style bushing system would work?
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Re: Help please
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2012, 08:56:04 PM »

John solved the problem for me with his excellent alloy screws; this is funny paper simple stuff and should not require an exotic solution but anything would be better than the status quo.

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Re: Help please
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2012, 08:57:48 PM »
Do you think a 1911 style bushing system would work?

I don't know but someone has to solve this problem. These are $1k guns with a critical flaw caused by a $0.10 part. Unfortunately I dont have any great ideas :(
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Re: Help please
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2012, 09:00:57 PM »

John solved the problem for me with his excellent alloy screws; this is funny paper simple stuff and should not require an exotic solution but anything would be better than the status quo.

I purchased a bunch of screws from John........have not had to use them yet......... :-\....I'm glad I haven't...usually any problems show up in my things first ::)
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Re: Help please
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 09:03:02 PM »

Jack,

Use them before it becomes a problem, not after. An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure in this case.

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 09:09:40 PM »

Jack,

Use them before it becomes a problem, not after. An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure in this case.

Roger that............... ;)
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Re: Help please
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2012, 09:16:59 PM »
Early on, I removed a stripped screw with a small Alden Grabit Power Screw Extractor set in a power drill set on slow reverse. I believe Sears sells them, or they are available on the Internet. Here's a listing on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alden-Grabit-Power-Screw-Extractor-Set-8530P-/370575716627?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D280817533580%26ps%3D54
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