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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2005, 05:38:16 PM »
Calvin, It also will keep your head warmer!!!
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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2005, 09:05:54 PM »
Steve (Calvin)

What custom pocket knife are you carrying now days in your other lint filled pocket.   I'm still carrying a Bose.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2005, 02:05:48 PM »
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What custom pocket knife are you carrying now days in your other lint filled pocket.   I'm still carrying a Bose.
Dave

Today I am carrying a Bailey Bradshaw pocket Wharncliffe stag folder. Made of forged 52100 and has stag handles and pinched front bolsters.
Sweet! Also have a Chris Reeve Mnandi (pronounced "Mnandi";^), which may be the finest semi-custom knives made today. It has incredible cocobolo handles. Then on my belt is a Buck/Tom Mayo folder in Titanium and S30V (only the good stuff!). In my tote bag, I have a Leatherman Micra, a Benchmade H20 fixed blade, a steriing silver Swiss Army Knife. In my car, I have a Benchmade/Osborne/NRA Fixed Blade (a mighty knife and mighty fine, too!) and a Kershaw DWO folder. Also in the trunk is a P.J. Tomes Big Honkin Machete with black walnut scales.
I hope I never get pulled over. The newspaper story would look bad...

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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2005, 03:58:55 PM »
Steve, with all that stuff, which do you pull out first?
And what would you say to the cop when he asks do you have weapons on you?
Tom
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2005, 05:21:26 PM »
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Steve, with all that stuff, which do you pull out first?
And what would you say to the cop when he asks do you have weapons on you?
Tom

I have to carefully consider what the task at hand is and choose wisely.
That's why I carry so many. And I AM an Officially Licensed Obsessive/Compulsive.

As to what I'd say to a cop, I'd quote Cleavon Little in "Blazing Saddles"
with "Pardon me while I whip this out...";^)

Ah, it's not easy being inside this head;^)

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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2005, 03:30:57 PM »
KEENO Here.... New Member of the forum and proud owner of #492 R9!

The reason I went in search of a Rohrbaugh Forum & help is that I'm having similar issues with my magazine releasing when fired.

The Gun was just returned to me after Eric Rohrbaugh went through it tuning & replacing the Magazine Realease.

Eric's notes on the gun read:

- Disassembled Firearm
- Inspected (Gun seems to have worn in "Nicely" - Well Lubed)
- Clean  (shipped dirty as requested)
- Tuned Hammer Strut
- New Mag Release
- New OUter Recoil Spring
- Lube & Re-Assemble

Test fired w/ no malfunctions

Upon return to me and a trip to the outdoor range with 100 rounds of WInchester "White Box" in hand....  No magazine release related issues for 75 rounds.  Then, 1 in 6 from the next mag.  On to 2 in 6.  All in all, I had 10 seperate Mag release in the last 25 rounds of 100 total.

Could it be a function of the lube becoming thin?  Note:  This range session took place with factory lubing from Eric's Tuning.

Open for input....

Thanks for the tips on rivised grip Erich!

Tim "KEENO" Keen



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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2005, 03:49:50 PM »
KEENO Again!

I forgot to mention that I was shooting my R9 single-handed w/ my pinky extended forward to insure it wasn't contacting the Magazine Release.  I also have fairly large hands with a 'meaty' thumb pad. (Similar to Erich's description)

I'll give Erich's Grip technique a try once I purchase more ammo.

Any other advice????

KEENO

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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2005, 03:51:09 PM »
Hi KEENO,

Welcome to the forum.  Glad you are here.

I have had good fortune with my R9S, including no magazine release problems.

I would be inclined to immediately contact the factory, again.

Maybe give it a sharp slap when inserting the magazine, but I'm sure you've considered that.  Perhaps let someone else shoot the pistol to see what happens with a different hand.

Some of the guys here will most likely have some thoughts.

Bill

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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2005, 11:23:36 PM »
Tim - big welcome to the forum :)

I too have never had a release issue - on either of my early guns.  I too have large hands and somewhere i posted pics of how I take up my grip.  I can always post them again if anyone wants and in fact keep meaning to add them to FAQ site - oh my - so much to do.  Must get to that soon.

The mag release catch is tensioned of course by the ''other end'' of mainspring - hammer spring if you will - which is plenty strong.  Plus the ''undercut'' aspect of the release catch should in theory give a good hold always.

Know what?  In all these cases of problems - oh my - how I have wish I could see said gun and watch the problems - tho I am no expert per se at all, and not trying to claim such but - always so much better to actually see and experience probs and so get a better idea of why they might be happening.
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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2005, 12:42:50 AM »
KEENO,

Welcome...

I do not have any advice as to your problem-I am sorry..

My "early" nor my "later" pup shows any such problem..

I am sure that the Rohrbaughs will take care of your problem..

Trying to think thru how this can happen..

Once again,Welcome..

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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2005, 07:58:44 PM »
Right on, Keeno! Glad you could join us.

My R9s went back to the range today for it's 550th round. It wasn't performing so hot until I replaced the second recoil spring, at which time it started running like a watch.

Easy clean-up on this finely polished gem!  :)

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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2005, 06:00:11 PM »
Thanks for the Welcome & Encouragement Gang!

I called Rohrbaugh today and had the pleasure of speaking to the incredibly knowledgeable & Helpful Maria once again.  She said, I should be expecting a call from Karl tomorrow on the Magazine Release concern.

Customer Service.....  Off the Scale!

In the meantime, I plan to clean my R9 and shoot some more Winchester "Whitebox" thru it, attempting to continue to duplicate the issue.  Experimenting with the recommended "Thumb Grip"!   ;)

Thanks to all....

Tim "KEENO" Keen

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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2005, 10:57:22 PM »
I had this same problem with the magazine releasing when fully loaded and wrote about it in this forum several months ago.  Karl felt it was a grip problem (pinky engaging magazine catch), but I'm not 100% sure.

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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2005, 05:17:32 PM »
Sorry, Keeno, that you have had the same problem (see my post at the top of this thread), but please keep us posted on your progress.  I have not been back to the range since receiving erich's excellent advice, but will let ya'll know how it goes.  Does your problem show any sensitivity as to 5+1 versus 6+1?  My problem only occurred on the first round at 6+1- after firing the first round, the slide knocked the magizine out. Good luck,

Brian

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Re: Mag release when loaded 6+1
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2005, 11:33:01 PM »
Hi CAB,
I was also getting an occasional magazine release while firing my R-9. I have always fired with a fully loaded 6 round magazine. I sent my pup back to Rohrbaugh for repair of this problem and replacement of a cracked slide. Besides replacing the slide Karl R replaced the magazine catch. After firing about 40 rounds with the repaired R-9 I have not had the magazine release problem again (yet). So far so good…. CAB I hope you get all your pup’s problems worked out.

Ed
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