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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2010, 01:08:43 PM »
Arne.  Thanks for the rely, which was:  hope to still get guns out this year.
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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2010, 01:43:47 PM »
A 7-8# spring was what I found balanced reasonable trigger force with being able to set off any primer out there (including the now "old-style" Brown Bear, who has made huge improvements in primer consistency).  In the XR9, this strength spring would not be overkill since a hammer-operated pistol will still not hit as hard as a pre-loaded striker.  My delrin rod test show 36-40 inches travel with preloaded striker (or some pre-loaded hammer) pistols.  This is only matched by my Sig P226 (SA/DA) with a very heavy trigger pull (about 12#).  By the way, one tradoff with striker-fired pistols is that the slide force must be high enough to keep the slide from moving back when actuating the striker spring.  With a hammer-operated gun, the slide spring only has to be strong enough to overcome gravity and maybe some holster rubbing.

Hasn't Rohrbaugh now gone to a higher trigger force as standard?  I think I read somewhere that it was now 11#.  

Also, does Rohrbaugh use a strong firing pin return spring to help reduce drop-firing, or do they use a passive firing pin safety?  

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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2010, 01:49:26 PM »
I've never seen a firing pin damaged - in the XR9 these are made from a very tough and strong SS.  Our firing pin design takes advantage of the "direct connect" method instead of an "intertial" method.  This allows the hammer to dump all its energy into denting the primer.  And we were still able to get the passive firing pin safety to work using this method.  The key was to have the firing pin return spring set at a higher pre-load than the hammer spring (mainspring).  Are you taking notes, Karl and Eric? ;-)
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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2010, 05:32:14 PM »

Arne, it sounds like you have a great handle on the light strike issue.

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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2010, 02:26:00 PM »
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New left grip


Excellent, Corey!  Thanks!
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Boberg Xr9s Shorty - Field Stripping Video
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2010, 06:53:13 PM »
Due to popular demand, here is a "preliminary" video.  I didn't do a voiceover due to a sore throat today.  http://www.bobergarms.com/video/xr9s-takedown-video
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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2010, 07:41:37 PM »
Now that looks simple enough!  YES!  Thanks!
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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2010, 08:07:05 PM »

A kinematic marvel!

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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2010, 08:11:06 PM »
Looks like you may have done that before.  ;D

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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2010, 08:41:29 PM »
Thanks for the explanation on the firing pin spring, one reason I really don't care for striker fired guns.

That is a very interesting video, thanks for posting it.

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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2010, 02:30:55 PM »
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Looks like you may have done that before.  ;D

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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2010, 09:27:02 PM »
Well I'm waiting to get mine so I can practice.  ;D
I need serial # 2500, can we request custom serial numbers ?

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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2010, 09:46:16 PM »
I want a custom serial no. too!    :D
Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it.  Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2010, 09:50:53 PM »
I might want a custom serial number for my 3rd one.  The first two I want LOW serial numbers.   ;D

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Re: Boberg Xr9s shorty - Superior or just differen
« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2010, 09:53:06 PM »
I was thinking about 0001.    :D
Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it.  Abraham Lincoln