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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: MRC on September 01, 2017, 07:39:40 AM
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I see this one has showed up again.
It is not a Special Forces, just a Stealth with a little after market coating. The box is marked standard and an invoice from Arego's in Arkansas stating it is a standard model enhanced.
Beware.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/689644144
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What is a R9 Standard? $1795.00?
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R9 Standard is how the two tone are marked.
Originally this pistol had everything black like a Special Forces except the recoil spring guide rod. Now it seems that the barrel is not coated any more.
I asked when this gun was listed before to send me a close up of the invoice which was also pictured. Arego Gun Shop listed it as a Standard model but some one had it coated up like a Special Forces, probably Arego had it done.
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What about this guy?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/689621414
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What is a R9 Standard? $1795.00?
Standard, which is the original two-tone, is the name used to differentiate the models when there was Stealth, Robar, and Standard.
Special Forces are all black including all external hardware, internals and mags.
I have seen some aftermarket-coated black barrels that have chipped paint on the top of the barrel from the slide contacting the barrel. This looks really bad and might be the reason the barrel in the gun in question is not coated anymore.
This "Special Ops Forces" is obviously a Standard with aftermarket coating.
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Stealth vs Special Forces
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What about this guy?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/689621414
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This appears to be a Stealth. Stealths have a black slide and frame with silver hardware: trigger, hammer, barrel, grip screws, etc
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Looks like another modification similar to the Covert.
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SOLD. Maybe we will hear about it?
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I guess that's a fair price.
At least that's what the price tag on the box said.
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The label with the matching serial number says "Standard", but the other label is $1795. Standards were $1150, which were $1795?
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The label with the matching serial number says "Standard", but the other label is $1795. Standards were $1195, which were $1795?
that was msrp for the special ops
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Special Ops, that's the first time I've seen a reference to that name. They must have changed it to Special Forces later.
Eric sill have to explain that one.
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Special Ops, that's the first time I've seen a reference to that name. They must have changed it to Special Forces later.
Eric sill have to explain that one.
That's the first time I've heard of Special Ops too.
Found this thread from 2010.
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=2634.msg26808#msg26808 (http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=2634.msg26808#msg26808)
It seems like Special Ops is like a Covert in that it is a factory Standard sent away by the distributor to be coated. If the "0310" on the $1795 price sticker is a date code for March, 2010, this would fit with the 2010 thread about it.
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Special Ops, that's the first time I've seen a reference to that name. They must have changed it to Special Forces later.
Eric sill have to explain that one.
That's the first time I've heard of Special Ops too.
Found this thread from 2010.
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=2634.msg26808#msg26808 (http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=2634.msg26808#msg26808)
It seems like Special Ops is like a Covert in that it is a factory Standard sent away by the distributor to be coated. If the "0310" on the $1795 price sticker is a date code for March, 2010, this would fit with the 2010 thread about it.
That thread says that the Special Ops was a standard model that Arego Guns had Wilson coat. The invoice that came with the gun was from Arego.
I believe that Arego was the same distributor that had Wilson do the Coverts. Sounds like they started stamping Covert on the Special Ops at a later date.
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Special Ops, that's the first time I've seen a reference to that name. They must have changed it to Special Forces later.
Eric sill have to explain that one.
That's the first time I've heard of Special Ops too.
Found this thread from 2010.
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=2634.msg26808#msg26808 (http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=2634.msg26808#msg26808)
It seems like Special Ops is like a Covert in that it is a factory Standard sent away by the distributor to be coated. If the "0310" on the $1795 price sticker is a date code for March, 2010, this would fit with the 2010 thread about it.
That thread says that the Special Ops was a standard model that Arego Guns had Wilson coat. The invoice that came with the gun was from Arego.
I believe that Arego was the same distributor that had Wilson do the Coverts. Sounds like they started stamping Covert on the Special Ops at a later date.
The Covert was a TOTALLY reworked gun by Wilson, so much so that Eric said he didn't feel obliged to warranty them but he did. Not many manufactures would do hat BUT Eric isn't most.
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"The Covert was a TOTALLY reworked gun by Wilson, so much so that Eric said he didn't feel obliged to warranty them but he did. Not many manufactures would do hat BUT Eric isn't most."
I have Coverts and believe me, Wilson does not do much to them besides cleaning, coating, and stamping the slides.
I can find very little differences from a stock action
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Hey guys, sorry ~ been busy. The Special Forces R9 was a Rohrbaugh made model. The blackened parts were Nitride coated. We stopped making those because of the wear marks on the top of the barrels, which many people did not like. The "Special Ops / Covert" models were stock Standard model two-tone R9s which were sold to Ben Arego and he sent those to Wilson for their treatment. We warranted those, but shouldn't have had to . . . . . . . but we did anyway.
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What about this guy?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/689621414
That is an example of the R9 with all of the revisions built into it. That was our last generation prior to the sale of our company to Remington Arms Corp. That is a fine R9 there and priced really nice too.
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Stealth vs Special Forces
Nice Phil . . . . . Your "pups" ?
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I have both, but I've found it's easier to get a google image for a post rather than stage a photo shoot of my pups. The lights over my pool table are nice and bright, so you can tell the previous posts of my pups by the tan pool table felt.
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"The Covert was a TOTALLY reworked gun by Wilson, so much so that Eric said he didn't feel obliged to warranty them but he did. Not many manufactures would do hat BUT Eric isn't most."
I have Coverts and believe me, Wilson does not do much to them besides cleaning, coating, and stamping the slides.
I can find very little differences from a stock action
You need to SHOOT IT! I have nine R9's and the Covert has the best action of any. Also it was built by Eric, +!. Then detail stripped, and gone over AGAIN, by Wilson. +2. Tough to beat that pair.
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Ha haa . . . . . Interesting thought Kevin!
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Ha haa . . . . . Interesting thought Kevin!
Eric
I'm interested in hearing your take on how much "tuning" Wilson did on the Coverts. I've had 3 of them and I do not see much difference from a stock R9.
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Honestly, I think all they did was some coatings treatments and engraved the slide (to deeply by the way) to say "COVERT". I do not believe the actions were changed at all. However, when one would come in for "warrantee work", the sear bar and hammer cam looked stock to me. The trigger felt like a Rohrbaugh trigger, nothing discernably different about them but the cost.
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Honestly, I think all they did was some coatings treatments and engraved the slide (to deeply by the way) to say "COVERT". I do not believe the actions were changed at all. However, when one would come in for "warrantee work", the sear bar and hammer cam looked stock to me. The trigger felt like a Rohrbaugh trigger, nothing discernably different about them but the cost.
That is exactly my observation of them also, thanks.
Kevin
You should be happy, it sounds like you own one of the special ones.
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Honestly, I think all they did was some coatings treatments and engraved the slide (to deeply by the way) to say "COVERT". I do not believe the actions were changed at all. However, when one would come in for "warrantee work", the sear bar and hammer cam looked stock to me. The trigger felt like a Rohrbaugh trigger, nothing discernably different about them but the cost.
I don't think I ever read they were changed, just checked, polished, and coated.
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Yea, that's pretty much it Kevin.