The Rohrbaugh Forum
Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: DDGator on February 01, 2006, 08:30:30 PM
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I admired the Bond Arms derringer on the cover and inside the new Dillon catalog... (Yes, guys, there were guns in those photos!)
Then I walk into my favorite gun shop and he has one in the case -- the popular size, chambered for .410/.45 Colt.
Apparently Bond has a reputation for very good quality, and they have worked out the safety issues of older design derringers.
Anybody have any thoughts on these? I can't see it as a super practical SD gun because of the limited capacity -- but the Double-0 buck .410 shells would probably pack a whallop. Plus, the weight is about that of a J-frame.
Don't think it would replace any of my carry guns, but might be fun just for grins. Whatcha think?
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Duane:
My advice is to grab it! I've been wanting one of those myself. (I think I just might do it.)
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Fun and grins!!
Heck Duane - maybe half my gun collection is for just that! ;D
Spoil yourself and then come back with pics and some range info!
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The guy who owned the scuba shop in NJ I went to had one. I never got to shoot it and I think he was chicken, but I have seen pictures of a scrawny little kid shooting the .410 shells out of it and so I don't think the recoil could be that bad. I say get it. I think it would be a good companion gun for fishing with a couple of .410 bird shot shells stuffed into it in case of mocassins.
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They're a stout gun to fire. Very popular with cowboy action shooters, though they generally go with lighter calibers. If I remember correctly, you can switch out the barrels/caliber on one of the models. The .410 would be great for snakes - I often wish I had one on my belt for such critters.
Did the model you see have the trigger guard or was it without? I'd recommend getting one with the trigger guard, as you can easily remove it if you chose to - just can't do the reverse.
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Good morning, gentlemen. I'm brand new to this forum and am looking forward to a most interesting and mutually rewarding exchange of information. You've all already shared
lots of great info with me while I was lurking around the edges for the last few months....That's why I bought the R9 mentioned in a Jan.25 post.......I'll get it today or tomorrow.
Which brings me to the reason for my first post....I have a Bond Snake Slayer 410/45. Fired one time. "STOUT" is correct. Since, at least at this time, personal defense is more
of a concern than collecting, the Bond will take a distant place
compared to other available guns. That said....with the extended grip for the pinky, a nice 3" 410 ....a snake won't have much of a chance. It is a fun gun and a impressive little
conversation piece. By the way....the barrels are interchangable with multiple cal. and the also have a rather nice factory holster. Price new should be around $425-450.
As was said by K-Man...Trigger guard is a good thing.
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hedrok:
Welcome to the campfire. Glad you came in.
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hedrok,
Welcome to the forum. Glad you started posting and come back often.
Bill
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They are selling on gunbroker.com for approximately $350-$375.00.
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Thanks for the "Welcome.".......Looks like buying early...8 mos
ago...wasn't a bargin. We don't do this for the investment, do
we?........Brian
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Welcome Hedrock,
Thanks for your comments on the BondArms .
Can you define "stout" a bit more? I am not bothered by blast, flash, noise or wrist-wrenching. I don't care for having blood drawn by having hammers or thumb latches or other sharp edges driven into my thumb or the web of my hand. How is the Bond in that respect?
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Since one round fired is really not a fair test, let me just say
I tried it out at a TDI training session during a break and determined I needed more training before trying a 410 in a
derringer package. I've been shooting for over 50 years....
mostly long guns, small caliber and hand guns just occasionally
until the last year. The point is, while no blood was spilled or
damage done, I was challenged to be able to fire a 2nd time and be in control. I did not fire due to that fact. Like I said...
more training.
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hedrok, welcome to the forum, could you throw another log on the fire. Thanks, its warmer now. We welcome your posts.
Tom
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Just to add my welcome hedrock - hope you'll soon be reporting on your pup.
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>>I've owned a Bond Defender .410/.45 Colt for a while now and I LOVE it...! If you are used to shooting the R9, then a Bond Derringer will be no big deal...I promise. And chances are - anything you aim at will vaporize...! Now THAT is FUN...!
From what I have seen and read, the Bond Derringers are the best made for what they are. I picked mine up used off Glock Talk for ~$300...and I think there is one there now...was listed a day or two ago. Can't remember the price...but think it was around $300. It's the same model as mine = without trigger guard. Now...if I were buying new - I'd probably go with one having the trigger guard for reasons already mentioned.
GO FOR IT, DUANE...!...TW<<
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I'm with TW on the trigger guard option.
My dealer has a .410/.45 Long Colt Bond Derringer (with trigger guard) in his case, and it is becoming increasingly attractive. Why? I don't know. (After all, it's 6 1/4" long and weighs 23 1/2 oz.) Do I need it? No. Why do I want it? Don't ask. (I guess it's the same reason I have a 4+ pound .50 AE Magnum Research Desert Eagle in my gun safe -- waiting for Armageddon. :P )
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Remind me not to play cards with you Bond Derringer buyers! 8)
Seriously, I have a Thunder Five in .45 Long Colt / .410. At 49 ounces (loaded) it is about twice as heavy as the Derringer. Felt recoil on the T-5 is nil. Disappointing, in fact. I expected much more recoil as well as muzzle blast. Nada. So I think if the Bond fits your hand reasonably well, you won't have much discomfort shooting it.
BTW: That T-5 is my bedside gun. Loaded with five rounds of .410 OO or 000 buckshot, it's comforting to have handy. Only my Winchester 1300 would be a better home defender. I used to keep it under the bed until the stupid cat threw up on it. At least she only splattered the synthetic stock. If she had gotten the barrel or receiver, she'd have been past tense. 24 years old or not, nobody barfs on my guns! ;)
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Steve - do you have any pic of that Thunder 5? No sweat if not - but cannot right now visualize it at all.
Sounds like a fearsome ''persuader'' LOL.
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Chris, I'll have to take a new one tomorrow with my R9S for comparison.
Steve
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Thx Steve - that'd be great, and appreciated Sir. :)
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Steve:
That is one lucky cat. It sounds like she used up eight of her nine lives that day alone. ;D
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R9Scarry,
Here's the comparison photo.
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/sluggo24/686_T5_R9S.jpg)
As you can see, even with that stubby little 2 1/8" barrel the T-5 is as long as my 4" barrel S&W 686!
The .410 shotshell looks pretty big next to the R9S. That's a 200 grain .45 Colt next to the shotshell. The T5 shoots either round. I don't think the original T5 manufacturer is in business any longer, but someone bought the tooling and is making a version for law enforcement use.
Richard,
As for the cat - yeah. She's lucky to still be alive. If I was 160 years old, I guess I'd also be sleeping 22 hours per day and throwing up a lot, too.
Sorry if I hijacked the thread.
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Steve:
You didn't hijack the thread. You contributed a classic line to English prose which I have filed away for future use as needed: "Nobody barfs on my guns!" 8)
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Steve - excellent pic. Thx ever so much for taking the trouble.
I really had no concept of that gun's size!! Oh my - I think the cylinder is large on my 45-70 BFR, well it is - but heck man - that thing should stop a BG just by presentation ;D
Awesome and I must say if I happen across one it'll be snapped up - just ''because''!! :D