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Offline WatchTimes

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Putting it back together???
« on: January 14, 2006, 11:50:37 PM »
OK now I feel like a total tool but I can't get this dang thing back together!
I have the spring in right, the barrel has to be in right as it says 9 mm on the side that shows
Whenever I try and get it lined up the pin wont go all the way through???
I can see through the hole so I have to be lined up right???
I am just at wits end as I have been trying this for 20 min and its not an easy process with this strong spring.
I try getting in place and am using a tooth brush I have to hold the slide open when I get the holes lined up.
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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2006, 11:56:46 PM »
UGGGG
OK so I finally get the pin through and now the slide is back about 1/8 in
There is an open gap between the rear of the barrel and firing pin part of the slide if this helps tell what the heck I am doing wrong
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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2006, 12:08:39 AM »
That open gap bothered me too if I understand you correctly
but I think that is normal. Have you tried cycling the slide to
confirm the reassembly? An 1/8 of an inch may be a bit much
but there is a gap there nonetheless.

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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2006, 12:12:56 AM »
JYogi, this may be the same thing that happened to me.

The problem was that the pin must be pushed all the way through the hole, where you can't even see it on the left side, because the slide will cover it.

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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2006, 12:19:27 AM »
Michi
I just figured that out when reading the cleaning threads...

Boy do I feel stupid now!
Either way this isnt one easy pup to put back together with just hands.

I did not venture into taking the grips off yet.  A little nervous about going there...  Heck, I still have my local smith give my HK P7M8 a total take down cleaning once a year as Im too nervous Im not gonna get it back together hahah.
This was my first cleaning.
Only about 35 rds through her so far.

Thanks!
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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2006, 12:23:27 AM »
Don't be too discouraged.  I had a devil of a time putting mine together, and was on the verge of throwing it out the window.

After doing it twice, that little bit of practice makes it much easier to do.  I have no reservations about it now.

I use Channel Lock pliers, which make it pretty easy to put the spring into position.

Of course, you need something to hold the slide back the right amount so the pin will go in.

Don't give up.  It will be fine.

Bill

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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2006, 02:24:55 AM »
It will get better every time you take it down!! ;)

I am not "mechanically" inclined and I can do it :o

I actually did it about a 1/2 dozen times to get the hang of it.. :)

RJs tool helps to keep it at the right spot for pin positions,but you can hold it by hand for a short time as needed too.. ;)

Good job,next time will be easier!! ::)

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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2006, 09:25:53 AM »
Try this it helped me.  Take the pistol right side down and put muzzle end of the slide against a non marring counter top, or similar edge that is rock solid.  You have to position the slide, barrel, and recoil assy. so that everything clears when you push against the edge of the table.   The slide will go back until you can line up the holes so you can put the pin in.  This way you can control and hold the pistol exactly where you want it.

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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2006, 01:23:46 PM »
If the pin is pushed too far in, it tends to drag on the inside of the slide..    If the factory would machine a slight radius on both ends of the pin, the contact would be minimized.
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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2006, 05:37:39 PM »
I know how tricky it can be but - one thing that does need attention with pin replacement is the barrel lug slot relationship - this can mean some jiggling.

I don't know how many have seen the PDF I did of Eric's stills (1.9Mb) - but this may help, and/or the vids of my own approach - Disassemble and Reassemble 2.0Mb and 4.2 Mb respectively.

There is not perhaps a single definitve method becayse we have different size hands, facilities, strength etc.  But for sure, after some practice it does get MUCH easier, even if still fiddly at times.
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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2006, 07:56:08 PM »
JYogi,
I felt the same way about the P-7 but am now very comfortable with it--much easier than a 1911.

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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2006, 09:15:01 PM »
Thanks to everyone for all the advice.
I just did not have the pin through far enough.
I thought it was something with the barrel and wiggling it but I just needed to give the pin a small whack and it was all good.
I was honestly worried about doing damage to this but its perfect again!
She has about 35 rds through her with no issues (only 35 rds and I have had her 6 mths haha)
I just like to make sure I can do what I need to do with her.

Friends try and shoot her and whine about it feeling like its gonna jump out of their hands, it may feel that way a little but I just dont want any skater tape or anything which could cause sticking or impair me getting it out of my pocket.  I know if I shoot her and she needs to be shot (ie bad guy coming) that the least of my worries is her feeling like shes gonna jump outta my hand as Im sure I will be squeezing her so tight my knuckles will be white and the inned palm will have her imprint deeply into it from the pressure.

I think people have a hard time understanding some guns you buy as they are ideal carry guns and will run like a champ but are not a pleasure to shoot at the range.  My friends think I am crazy spending this much for a gun to carry and not just blast at the range yet they will drop 3G plus for a 1911 which they will not carry...  (OK so I have a couple 3G 1911's but I carry em damn it!)

I have only put 124 gr Speer Gold Dot through her.  Is there something better for me to use as CCW ammo?
« Last Edit: January 16, 2006, 09:17:26 PM by JYogi »
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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2006, 09:24:20 PM »
JYogi,

I've used a variety of ammo and it seemed to make no difference to my R9S.

I've heard the folks at the factory are using Winchester Silver Tips.

My current carry ammo is Magsafe Defender.  It is their lowest 9mm recoil load.

Of course, it passed my brief function testing.  You don't want to shoot too much because it is very expensive.

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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2006, 09:28:20 PM »
Triple 0 Buck is good for defense.  Seriously, you might look at the MagSafe or Glaser stuff for actual carry.  It's expensive but devastating, and recoil is greatly reduced.  Trauma surgeons HATE it!
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Re: Putting it back together???
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2006, 09:29:52 PM »
Great minds think alike, huh Bill?
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