Richard, the ordeal that Ned Beatty went thru in Deliverance does rather pale when compared to the afflictions that you mentioned. About a week ago I noticed an obituary for Bill McKinney, the actor in Deliverance who advised Ned Beatty to "squeal like a pig!", it said that McKinney was survived by "his son and several ex-wives". Sounds like the guy knew how to close a deal. Gene