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Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: DDGator on June 24, 2016, 10:54:43 AM
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I shouldn't say too much about this because I am going to get one to review for Shooting Illustrated as soon as they are avaialble.
However, assuming this works well, isn't this A LOT of what people were hoping to see in the fabled R-45??
https://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/ (https://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/)
Heizer PK045
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I will buy one for sure! Waiting patiently....
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The weight is listed as 25 oz one place and 28 oz another. Either one is too heavy of my pocket.
A fixed barrel design on a 45 ACP stumps me a little. I wonder how they retard the blowback?
I think I will stick with my XDs 45 for now.
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Duane,
How about throwing in a review on the BMW 5 Series you picked up last year in Munich?
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The weight is listed as 25 oz one place and 28 oz another. Either one is too heavy of my pocket.
A fixed barrel design on a 45 ACP stumps me a little. I wonder how they retard the blowback?
I think I will stick with my XDs 45 for now.
I tried to buy a platinum model for a few months with no luck...bought a platinum xr9s when one came avaliable ...this gun for the price I must have ...
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What's the price, I need a new toy.
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The weight is listed as 25 oz one place and 28 oz another. Either one is too heavy of my pocket.
A fixed barrel design on a 45 ACP stumps me a little. I wonder how they retard the blowback?
I think I will stick with my XDs 45 for now.
I tried to buy a platinum model for a few months with no luck...bought a platinum xr9s when one came avaliable ...this gun for the price I must have ...
XDs 45, not XRs. I have a couple of Boberg 45's but I finally gave up on them and went back to the Springfield.
The pull length on the XRs is just too long and too heavy for my size hands. The Springfield is a much better fit for me.
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What's the price, I need a new toy.
They will be under 600.
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Duane,
How about throwing in a review on the BMW 5 Series you picked up last year in Munich?
I guess I am allowed to hijack my own thread... :D
My 2015 528i is awesome. I've had it just shy of one year now, and put roughly 15,000 miles on the odometer. This is the best car I've ever had, for certain. It is comfortable, fast, sporty and generally awesome.
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Duane, I'm glad you are pleased with your BMW 528i. My daughter has one on lease and loves it. Meanwhile, I'm still roaming the roads in my 2011 Cadillac CTS. Its manual paddle shift option certainly saves the brakes here in the mountains. So far, so good.
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Heizer's fascination with 45 ACP.
I'd buy one chambered in .32 - it would have the best sites of any .32 ACP on the market.
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Did you guys know Arne Boberg is working as a Mechanical Design Engineer at 3M now?
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Why no I didn't
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Why no I didn't
Well there ya go then. Arne and I had a long talk quite a while back. He's around.
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There is this huge segment of the gun-owning population who complain that there's never anything new, then there are these gun owners that criticize anything new, saying "Its a solution in search of a problem, it's a fad, its just marketing hype, it doesn't do anything my 45 doesn't do, it's a gimmick, it doesn't do anything my S&W revolver doesn't do, it's too heavy, it's too light, it's too thick, it's too thin..."
On and on and on.
Sometimes I think those two segments are actually the same gun owners. They complain that nothing is new because they want something new to attack and criticize.
I think Arne is a great guy, I hope the Bond Bullpup stays around, I'd like to buy one someday.
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I am still in line to get a review model. Looking forward to it.
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Hey man, what's up with this gun ?
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Duane,
How about throwing in a review on the BMW 5 Series you picked up last year in Munich?
I guess I am allowed to hijack my own thread... :D
My 2015 528i is awesome. I've had it just shy of one year now, and put roughly 15,000 miles on the odometer. This is the best car I've ever had, for certain. It is comfortable, fast, sporty and generally awesome.
15000 miles? It isn't even broken yet. My 1999 is as tight and quiet as the day I bought it. Keep up the maintenance and it's good for 300,000 miles. That is my goal.
I replaced one window motor and both rubber sway bar bushings, dry rot. Other than that I just WAY over maintain it.
kevinqjhps
p.s. stay FAR away from Michelin tires. They preform well on other cars but NOT BMW. I switched to Perelli and it handles like a go cart. Here in Carmel we have 103 roundabouts that are a BLAST to take at reasonable speed.
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There is this huge segment of the gun-owning population who complain that there's never anything new, then there are these gun owners that criticize anything new, saying "Its a solution in search of a problem, it's a fad, its just marketing hype, it doesn't do anything my 45 doesn't do, it's a gimmick, it doesn't do anything my S&W revolver doesn't do, it's too heavy, it's too light, it's too thick, it's too thin..."
On and on and on.
Sometimes I think those two segments are actually the same gun owners. They complain that nothing is new because they want something new to attack and criticize.
I think Arne is a great guy, I hope the Bond Bullpup stays around, I'd like to buy one someday.
Don't know him but Bond arms has always had a great reputation.
kvinqjhps
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Duane,
How about throwing in a review on the BMW 5 Series you picked up last year in Munich?
I guess I am allowed to hijack my own thread... :D
My 2015 528i is awesome. I've had it just shy of one year now, and put roughly 15,000 miles on the odometer. This is the best car I've ever had, for certain. It is comfortable, fast, sporty and generally awesome.
15000 miles? It isn't even broken yet. My 1999 is as tight and quiet as the day I bought it. Keep up the maintenance and it's good for 300,000 miles. That is my goal.
I replaced one window motor and both rubber sway bar bushings, dry rot. Other than that I just WAY over maintain it.
kevinqjhps
p.s. stay FAR away from Michelin tires. They preform well on other cars but NOT BMW. I switched to Perelli and it handles like a go cart. Here in Carmel we have 103 roundabouts that are a BLAST to take at reasonable speed.
I see you mention Carmel Kevin. That wouldn't happen to be New York State by chance?
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Indiana.
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Ah ha. . . . . Not what I was thinking at all. Ha haa. . . . . . I was hoping for upstate NY by me. We could have had lunch one day!
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Ah ha. . . . . Not what I was thinking at all. Ha haa. . . . . . I was hoping for upstate NY by me. We could have had lunch one day!
I am in a suburb just north of Indy.
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Yes, I see now. Sorry, that's a bit of a ride for lunch! lol
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Looking at that, as good sit is, it's really not a 'pocket gun.' I am just wondering for a pocket gun if a Semmerling might be a better choice. YES. it is expensive, and YES it is manually operated but it is a .45 and it is pocket size. Just a thought.
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Looking at that, as good sit is, it's really not a 'pocket gun.' I am just wondering for a pocket gun if a Semmerling might be a better choice. YES. it is expensive, and YES it is manually operated but it is a .45 and it is pocket size. Just a thought.
My friend has a Semmerling and as far as I am concerned it is a $4000 POS.
They weigh 20 ounces loaded and the recoil is tremendous I have heard from him. He does not shoot it any more because of it's value so I have not shot it.
You pull the barrel forward to eject and then pull it back to load. It is a very well made and interesting pistol with no practical use that I can see.
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Agreed . . . . .
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Looking at that, as good sit is, it's really not a 'pocket gun.' I am just wondering for a pocket gun if a Semmerling might be a better choice. YES. it is expensive, and YES it is manually operated but it is a .45 and it is pocket size. Just a thought.
My friend has a Semmerling and as far as I am concerned it is a $4000 POS.
They weigh 20 ounces loaded and the recoil is tremendous I have heard from him. He does not shoot it any more because of it's value so I have not shot it.
You pull the barrel forward to eject and then pull it back to load. It is a very well made and interesting pistol with no practical use that I can see.
The one I handled, not shot , was built as well as anything I have handled.
Recoil? Gee harsh recoil in q 20 ounce .45? What are the odds. Try a 11 ounce S&W Airtight in .357. Recoil is a subjective thing. Some handle it, some don't.
Reliability? With NO recoil spring or guide rod it would make sense reliability would be as close to perfect as you can get.
Would I pay $4000 for one? Not a chance.
kevinqjhps
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I own a S&W Scandium J frame and the recoil is stout with 357's no doubt.
The Semmerling being a single shot, I would bet that the recoil is stouter than the 357. The 20 ounces is loaded with five rounds also. No recoil springs and slide absorbing the recoil.
As for price, check out the last two on GB.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/Completed%2FBCI.aspx?Keywords=Semmerling&Timeframe=1
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I own a S&W Scandium J frame and the recoil is stout with 357's no doubt.
The Semmerling being a single shot, I would bet that the recoil is stouter than the 357. The 20 ounces is loaded with five rounds also. No recoil springs and slide absorbing the recoil.
As for price, check out the last two on GB.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/Completed%2FBCI.aspx?Keywords=Semmerling&Timeframe=1
Those are INSANE prices! Did I read, or am I mistaken, that 5-6 of these in semi auto were made for Army/Special Force trials?
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They have been a 4K for at least 5 years. That is the only chrome one I have ever heard of.
Get a Double Tap if you like recoil.
http://www.doubletapdefense.com/
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Karl and I both shot one of those (DoubleTap) in Kentucky at The Remington R&D Facility when we were there. We each took just ONE shot. . . . . That was enough! Hurt like hell! They laughed and said. . . . Go ahead, shoot the second round. . . . . Karl & I both had rather straight forward explicatives for them. . . . . They laughed at those statements too. lol
Yeah, NOT a fan of that thing at all.
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Karl and I both shot one of those (DoubleTap) in Kentucky at The Remington R&D Facility when we were there. We each took just ONE shot. . . . . That was enough! Hurt like hell! They laughed and said. . . . Go ahead, shoot the second round. . . . . Karl & I both had rather straight forward explicatives for them. . . . . They laughed at those statements too. lol
Yeah, NOT a fan of that thing at all.
Think that hurt? I have a friend who is a prison guard at Pendleton Prison in Indiana. In a shake down he took off a prisoner a Drafting/Mechanical type pen. It was hollower out to hold a .45 round and fired by the spring clip used to attach to your pocket.
The steel was about 1/16 of a inch thick and he asked if I was brave/stupid enough to TRY to fire it. I said the only way would be to take it to the woods, tie it to a log, and with a LONG fishing line fire it. It was sure to blow up first time used.
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Ha haa . . . . . Yeah, I wouldn't ignite that one either! lol
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I shouldn't say too much about this because I am going to get one to review for Shooting Illustrated as soon as they are avaialble.
However, assuming this works well, isn't this A LOT of what people were hoping to see in the fabled R-45??
https://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/ (https://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/)
Heizer PK045
These aren't available yet ?
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Hmmm. I don't have one yet. However, your post has prompted me to inquire again.
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Go ahead, shoot the second round
You're lucky it didn't shoot the second round... Paul from PocketGunsandGear and a twin detonation from a DoubleTap:
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?action=post;topic=8415.30;last_msg=91635
At 6:26 in the video :(
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Shooting is something you should ENJOY. If it beats the hell out of your hand it looses the fun factor real fast.
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Kind of a weird price on them - $751.78
I mean, why not $751.75 or $751.99 or $752.00 ?
Well anyway, they're out:
https://gun.deals/product/heizer-defense-pocket-45-45-acp-275-stainless-steel-gripframe-5-rds-75178
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Is this you DDGator?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F08xDWhLn9E