The Rohrbaugh Forum
Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: flyandscuba on December 23, 2006, 12:07:38 AM
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A couple of years ago, Taurus listed a total titanium "instant back-up" revolver chambered in 9mm. I tried in vain to order one -- but never saw one available -- then they were discontinued after a short production run.
A couple of weeks ago, I came across a listing on GB.com for a NIB one (without a picture). I bought it on faith that it was the pistol I had searched for earlier. (My Christmas present to myself)
Today, I picked it up at my receiving dealer and I was not disappointed when I cut open the shipping carton.
Unlike the other M905s that Taurus produced, the IB version has a shorter cylinder and frame (just the right size for 9mm) than the typical J-frame.
Here are a couple of pictures comparing it to my J-frame M85UTL:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/flyandscuba/m905ib.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/flyandscuba/m905chsi.jpg)
The size and weight of the titanium IB is perfect for pocket carry. Although you lose two rounds of capacity compared to the R9S, it is rated for +P ammo. I'll most likely try some of my preferred self defense 9mm loads -- Winchester Ranger T SXT 127 gr. +P+ -- and see what it feels like.
Here's a picture of it with the R9S:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/flyandscuba/905CHISHversusR9S.jpg)
I hope to take it to the range over the holidays -- probably do a little "shoot-out" with the Rohrbaugh -- and post a range report.
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Looks nice.A compact package.Let us know how she wrings out.
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Congratulations,
Looks nice. Is the barrel sleeved or what? I have heard it is practically impossible to rifle Titanium.
I like revolvers. They always work. The only problum is for CC they are just to wide even with a 5 rd cylinder. To wide for my likeing that is. Just my opinion.
Mike
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Fly:
"I love it when a plan comes together." Congratulations on finding that rare beauty!
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I like that Pistola. Good score on that
bad boy, Flyandscuba. Merry Christmas to you. :D
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Congrats on your latest acquisition! And thanks for sharing the pics as well.
I've had one of these on my "B" list myself.
Reinz
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one45,
I see you may be treating yourself to one for Christmas too! Let me know how you like it when you get it.
I ran a few cylinders of ammo through mine while out in the woods yesterday. Not an official range session, but just a chance to test for function and get a feel for the recoil out of the small light package.
It was nice -- very nice! ;)
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Hey Flyandscuba and Good Christmas Eve -
I too wanted of these a long time, such as it is, ago. Forgot
entirely about them. Your acquisition compelled me to bid on
one. I will see - I'll let you know if it gets to me. Of course,
I'm very happy with my R9S. Take care all and Merry Christmas.
Addendum: Happy winner of the new pistola. Probably paid
too much, but......
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Let me know how it does when you get it. As for mine, it's taking a trip to Miami for service. 15 rounds through it and it appears that I've got a broken firing pin... :(
Fortunately, I'm working in south Florida the end of next week -- so I'm in hopes I can hand carry it to the repair facility near the Opa-Locka airport and leave it with them for a few days (like other Florida manufacturers, maybe they'll fix it while I wait) in necessary.
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Hello Flyandscuba,
Sorry to hear about the broken pin. Hope they fix it right-up
and it was just a fluke. I should have mine by end of week
and I'll since I can shoot in my backyard, I'll see how it does
when I get it home. Best and Merry Christmas.
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The 9mm IB returned a few weeks back and has been running fine since. I replaced the rubber grip with some low profile Rosewood grips to make the little revolver better for pocket carry. At 16 ounces loaded, it rides fine in an inexpensive Uncle Mike's size 4 pocket holster.
It is a frequent pocket carry piece now as seen below -- stoked with Corbon 100gr +P Pow'Rball loads.
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s118/auxair0483/M905chsititanium.jpg)
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How's the recoil of the 9mm compared to the recoil of a .38 in your 85? More or about the same? I can't imagine it being less.
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About the same. The +P's are a little "snappy"...
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>>Hi Fly...
Nice find with that .9mm Taurus Revolver. I have a Ruger SP - 101 in 9mm fitted with CT Laser Grips and it's probably my favorite revolver to shoot and carry. Being smaller and lighter than my Ruger I suspect your little Taurus is quite snappy...TW<<
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Try a 415T with 210gr. loads. That's what I call "snappy". ;D
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Try a 415T with 210gr. loads. That's what I call "snappy". ;D
Firing .41 Magnum 210-grain cartridges out of a 20-ounce Taurus titanium snubby . . . yep, that would be about all the misery I'd care to enjoy! :o
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Nice piece! I looked at the Taurus catalogs, in 2005 they listed the 9mm IB frame in blue (M905I-B1) or stainless (M905I-SS1), nothing in titanium. What is the exact model number of the titanium model? Do you know the approximate weight? Are the moon clips same as a S&W 940? Do aftermarket j-frame grips fit? I have been looking for a pocket carry for a while and prefer revolver to auto but always wished the j-frame was just a tiny bit smaller. This is it; all I have to do is find one! Does anyone have a clue as to why they would discontinue these? Many thanks for any answers to my questions (especially the model number). Larry in New Mexico
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Hi Larry,
The model number on the box label is 2-905111SH
On the revolver itself, it is marked 905C on the crane.
Here's a link to it on their website:
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=334&category=Revolver
That shows the model number is 905ICH/SH
I tried for a couple of years to get one -- never found a dealer or distributor who said they could order one while it was in production. Not sure how many were produced, but it appears to have been very few.
Good luck -- it is a great little revolver.
The rosewood grips I installed ar e the ones offered by Taurus. I have a set of Crimson Trace grips that work as well. Any of the grips that will fit the small frame Taurus should fit this model.
Oh, although the website lists the weight at 22.2 ounces, my scale shows just a tad over 16 ounces loaded.
Regards,
Bill
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Hi Bill, Thanks for the info. Larry
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Does anyone have a clue as to why they would discontinue these?
Because they just didn't sell.
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Fly, Now that's a nice wheel gun! More punch than a .38 sp, and alot nicer to shoot than a .357 snub. You either had to spend a ton of time on GB, or you just got lucky. Nice find, Congrats! I really like the look of the rosewood grips too. Alot nicer for carry I bet. Ever since seeing yours, I have put it on the "want" list.
Mark
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I did get lucky on GB.com one day. Then, shortly after i picked up mine -- One45 here on the forum found one on an auction site as well.
Those are the only two examples of this revolver I have seen.
For something that was discontinued "because it didn't sell" -- I wish I could get my hands on 50 of them...I'd be able to sell them all in a month to my law enforcement clients.
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Just because I said they didn't sell (and what I should have said was in retail volumes to justify production) didn't mean I was slamming your gun. I think revolvers chambered for auto pistol calibers are interesting, and I own several examples myself.
You can believe me or not when I tell you the shop I worked for had literally dozens of the Taurus 9mm revolvers (we bought out Taurus remaining inventory) and we couldn't get rid of them in late 2005 through mid 2006.
The fact that they weren't profitable to Taurus is quite evident when you look at their selection of small frame revolvers. They are overwhelmingly .38 special and .357 magnum, both calibers that sell in sufficient retail quantities to justify all the variants that Taurus catalogs. If all those potential customers would have bought them while they were available and in production, perhaps Taurus wouldn't have discontinued the 9mm revolver.
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It's official then: New forum, 2 members of the Tit. Club.
Flyandscuba, you be the forum administrator and I will be the member. Yow, that is very exclusive stuff. However, will there ever be other Tit. members and we need a motto: "You can never have enough Tit. members?" ::)
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tequila,
No slam percieved. However, the standard M905 built upon the full-size J-frame was common . I saw many of those in stainless and blue and owned one previously. The smaller, Instant Backup (shorter cylinder and smaller frame) version was rare and built only in very small numbers -- especially in titanium.
I didn't care for the standard steel J-frame sized M905 -- way too heavy for pocket carry....thus, I sold it. I have a feeling that those are what you had in the shop -- two very different revolvers.
Regards.
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>>Wow... I would love to get hold of one of those Model 905ICH/SH, TOTAL TITANIUM, 9mm Revolvers...! I have a nice collection of wheel guns, and my favorite is currently a Ruger SP-101 .9mm...which I often use for belt carry depending on my mood and dress. The idea of a smaller .9mm revo for backup is really nice...! Thanks for sharing, guys...TW<<
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When the Glock 19's came out many moons ago, I had a 9mm revolver to pair with my G19. I thought this was the best combination in the world - same ammo and the revolver 9mm clips are really cool. Then I had a couple of failures with the revolver - I had a couple of primers move toward the back upon firing. That makes a revolver useless - could not get the cyl open without tools. I loved that gun but I got rid of it - I think it was an S&W. It may have been fixable but I did not want to mess with it!
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I had a Smith and Wesson 357 Combat with a 6" barrel in stainless steel. I used it for hunting and as a personal protection piece. When our place got broken into and the thieves were scared off by the Radio Schlock Security System, The Officer who came to investigate it showed me how they're trained to stick the web of their hand (between thumb and forefinger) into the breech between the hammer and frame so an attackers gun will not fire (assuming the hammer is exposed and the gun is in single action cocked mode or in the process of cycling in double action mode).
I thought a lot about this, sold the gun and bought a S&W Airweight with a concealed hammer (much easier to draw, and no chance of the hammer being fouled). Then a few years later a local Deputy showed how one can stop the firing of a double action revolver (most of the newer ones) by simply grabbing the cylinder so it wont rotate. This stops the gun cold (!). Ouch!
This was the main impetus for my getting a no-frills semi that would keep firing and would be hard to foul in a close situation.
Enter the R9.
I know one could theoretically foul the hammer on an R9 too, but the way it's shaped and positioned this would be extremely difficult at best. The gun is also so stiff and small that one cant push the slide back to defeat the trigger mechanism, like with other Semis. Anyway, sorry for the long-windedness, and I don't mean to bash revolvers (I'm in the market for a 1873 Colt 45 right now!) . They just don't make as much sense to me for CC / personal protection as the R9.
Hey, BTW When did Karl say they were going into production on an Unobtainium R9 frame?!?!? `:~>
Seriously speaking, I'd consider it a personal favor if a request for a Titanium frame was made by all forum members in any communication they have with Maria or Karl.....Thanks!
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And one45, I'd be glad to join as a full member of the Tit. Appreciators Society!