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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh Accessories => Topic started by: theirishguard on September 21, 2008, 01:31:29 PM
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In talking with Rohrbaugh last week, it was mentioned that they are talking with Crimson Trace about building a set of lasergrips for the R9.
Rohrbaugh has gotten some requests from customers for this. Those folks interested should contact Crimsom Trace directly and ask for these grips to be built.
800-442-2406 or www.crimsontrace.com Tom
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Thanks Tom,
I hope they produce a green lazer model. I can't see the red very well due to my partial color blindness.
Mike
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Mike, that would be something you should tell them. Tom
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I'd be interested if they aint too spensive.......
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Green would be swell!
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I just e-mailed Crimson Trace and asked for a laser for the R9S. I hope they get enough requests to make it happen!
-David
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that's what needs to happen, let them know YOU want one. Tom
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The models Crimson Trace make for the Kel-Tec, Kahr and Ruger LCP all mount on the front of the trigger guard (and protrude slightly along the underside of the trigger guard). This would cause two problems: 1) I can live without the space in front of the trigger guard but my hands require all the space below it. This is why I've never considered the pocket slipper laser light, and 2) my fabulous Hedley holster (which I just only recently received after a very looooooooooooong wait) could not be used. I simply would do nothing to negate the use of this holster (no Hedley, no carry; no carry, no need for Rohrbaugh).
The model Crimson Trace makes for the North American Guardian seems to fit at the top of the right grip. So far as my hand placement, right side is no good; however, I could use that location on the left side. I might even be willing to send my new holster back to Mr Hedley for the necessary modification. Hopefully, a snip here and a snip there could be done with a one or two day turnaround...
Have anyone of you considered these problems. Perhaps, when we make our pleas to CT, we should be very specific about where the laser has to mount.
James
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tell Crimson Trace Tom
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Thanks, Tom. I will tell Crimson. I just wanted to get some idea whether my concerns were shared by any other pup users; or is my grip so different that perhaps I could adapt to one of the other Crimson designs.
Thanks again, James
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James, it's a good idea. Tom
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I just sent the following email to Crimson Trace:
"I would be very interested in your production of a grip laser sight for the Rohrbaugh R9. When you do, please consider the following: 1) The models you make for the Kel-Tec, Kahr and Ruger LCP all mount on the front of the trigger guard and protrude slightly along the underside of the trigger guard. This location would seriously interfere with the grip of the very compact R9 (which has a substantial recoil and must be firmly gripped, and 2) the model you make for the North American Guardian seems to fit at the top of the right grip. For the R9, this type of sight on the LEFT side would be much better.
Please let me know if you have any plans to produce this sight. Many R9 users will be interested and I will gladly put the information on the Rohrbaugh forum.
Kind regards,
James"
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Laser Trace has replied to my email with the following:
"At this time Crimson Trace does not produce a Lasergrip to fit the Rohrbaugh R9. However we do get periodic requests for this model, and we are continually adding new Lasergrip models to our product line based on customer demand.
We do record "Future Model Requests" and submit our findings to our design team quarterly for review. We encourage you to add your vote to what you would like to see Crimson Trace develop in the future, please use our "Future Model Request" form located here: http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Support/RequestNewModels/tabid/170/Default.aspx"
I suggest anyone interested in having Laser Trace make a laser sight for our pups go to this site and complete the form. I will..
James
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Use this link:
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Support/RequestNewModels/tabid/170/Default.aspx
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thanks for the link Tom
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Use this link:
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Support/RequestNewModels/tabid/170/Default.aspx
Done!
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Tom, next time you talk with Rohrbaugh could you ask if there is any update on laser grips. I still think they would be very nice on the R9. Once a month I do the link and add my vote for laser grips for R9 and Seecamp.
Corey
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I just put my name in the hat at Crimson Trace for laser grips for the Rohrbaugs. John
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Corey, In talking with Rohrbaugh, here's the deal. Crimson Trace is wanting to know how many and etc. To work a deal with them on grips would require Rohrbaugh to shift time away from building and getting out the door R9s and K380s. So at this time, energy is better spent building and shipping pistols. Remember also Karl needs to spend time finishing the R45 project. Maybe the better course of action is to contact Crimson Trace and ask for grips, there by pushing them into it. How many really want laser grips?? Tom
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I do.
Benjamin
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This is how Crimson trace looks on a Kahr K9. Home defense gun have it set length of house. Lazer fits high enough so it did not interfere with existing holsters.
(http://www.pcsoluts.com/arniespics/Kahr.jpg)
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The burlwood CTs are nice, here they are on my Colt New Agent. John
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/ColtSpringer005.jpg)
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Plain black CT's with a green laser for my R9 gets my vote. Im ready to send the check!!!!
Corey
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To send a check, first there must be something to buy... don't forget to let them know of your interest:
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Support/RequestNewModels/tabid/170/Defa ult.aspx
Maybe you'll be able to send your check soon...
James
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Here's the link again without the spaces...
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Support/RequestNewModels/tabid/170/Default.aspx
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r-45 project?
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To send a check, first there must be something to buy... don't forget to let them know of your interest:
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Support/RequestNewModels/tabid/170/Defa ult.aspx
Maybe you'll be able to send your check soon...
James
I guess you did not read the whole thread. A few post up I wrote this "Once a month I do the link and add my vote for laser grips for R9 and Seecamp."
I have not forgotten, in fact I would bet that I have let them know more than anyone else.
Corey
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I sent in a request to CT as well...
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Me too. CT black with green shiny thing.
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I'd like some....either red or green would do. Assuming they won't come in purple!! :)
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Excellent idea! I've added my name to CT list. Let's put the pressure on them and leave the Rohrbaughs to making the best small pistols on the planet.
Happy 2010 to the Forum! Carlos
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Excellent idea! Let's put the pressure on them and leave the Rohrbaughs to making the best small pistols on the planet.
Happy 2010 to the Forum! Carlos
Now that's the way to think!!
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Thanks James for the link, sent request also.
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done
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Request sent. I wonder how many requests would have to be sent to get them moving on this? Gene
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While at the SHOT Show, I heard that Crimson Trace was going ahead with laser grips for the Rohrbaughs.
Being that I didn't hear it straight from the CT people, I'm going to consider it no more than a rumor. Can't hurt to continue making requests!
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New member here, and new R9s owner!
Great information on this forum! :)
I also have sent a request.
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Welcome, Rich_G.
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Just got off the phone after a positive conversation with Travis at Crimson Trace. Their per/model RD costs run from 150K up to 7 figures, depending on many circumstances. Some of these, like slide release, ejection port and trigger safety placement, would of course not be applicable to the Pup, but as stated in above posts there are other concerns that can certainly affect the final design. I mentioned to him that both the R9 and 380 currently use interchangeable grips, but don't yet know if the hoped-for R45 will or not.
In short, he inferred that if CT gets somewhere in the vicinity of 3500 or more requests for Pup laser grips (on the link also posted above in this thread) they will take the collective interest very seriously, and production in the not-too-distant future could become a reality. If all Pup owners who read this take the thirty seconds to ping them I bet we could get these guys to light us up. IMHO this would be a very cool option/upgrade to the pup, even though I've already modified my stealth with night sights. I would buy CT laser grips in a heartbeat, nonetheless.
I ask you, how cool would it be to laser up your Pup?
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I inquired about this as well. Would be a great addition to the R9/380
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I submitted my request as well.
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Request submitted. Would be a "must buy". Thanks for this thread!
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I have submitted at least fifteen requests, I usually do one per month. ;D
John
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I have five different email addresses and have used all of them twice. In case they use this info to screen repeat requests. It occurs to me if even only the members of this forum submitted only 5 unique requests that that alone would seem to satisfy CT's 3500-count rule of thumb for starting production. My guess is that if laser grips were available, most future buyers of the R9 /R 380 would very likely consider and many would buy laser grips for their pups. Win win.
I'd be one of the first in line.
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Like John(yankee2500) I send in a request every month. Don't know if it it helps but it makes me feel better. Gene
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I'm thinking each request goes to a computer which knows if it's a duplicate; just my thinking; but hey, Gene, if it makes you feel better. ;D
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That wouldn't be a problem Kj, I just use your name. ;D ;D
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That would be OK, Gene, but I've already put my request in, as well. ;D
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I really don't mind emailing crimson trace once a month, but I can't help feeling that I'm just p****** in the wind. I hope not, but thats the way it feels. Gene
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You're right. I put in my request for a few months and thought about the computer knowing it was me and gave up.
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I'm starting to use all the names and email addresses of friends I show the Steath to, who begin chewing on getting one the moment they hold mine in their hands. One friend of a friend offered me a grand on the spot for mine and was actually upset when I said "no way - get your own!" White lie? Well, Pup laser grips would've tipped me in the direction of mine a lot sooner in the muse-gun buying process. I almost picked the Kahr 9 at first because they already had lasers made for it. I was yungir and not as ejikatid as I am now! Kahr's a good gun, but I know which one I'd reach for first - every time.
I will keep this up until CT gets their collective act together and takes 8 or 10 of MY Benjamins off my hands!
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I did think about sending the emails of all the relatives and their relatives, but just haven't taken the time to do it. Maybe if we all did that, the number they want would be reached. Just a thought.
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I should add that I've gotten general permission for the names and addresses I've used, though I dont think all I asked really thought I would follow through. I have. I'm really psyched to work on getting a set of these.
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I installed a Crimson Trace on my mom's carry gun yesterday (it was her birthday present ;D ), and now I really want one for my R9. Really really want one.
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nase. Go to this site and complete the form for a request for Crimson Trace to make the Laser Sight for the R9. You may have already done this, but if not, it may help.
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Support/RequestNewModels/tabid/170/Default.aspx
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Thanks KJ will do and will have my two son's and wife request also.
Just wondering what it might look like when and if they do make one for the Pup.
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Dino. Chinook first posted this link on page 1, I just brought it forward. Good idea on the relatives.
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Oh I've done it multiple times. I just don't have too much hope that in the near future it'll have any effect.
I mean what's the size of the market here? Do we know about how many Rohrbaughs are out in the wild? Whatever that number is, some fraction would be willing to buy the laser... probably under 10%. It's a depressing number, I think.
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I think you're right; however, for those that want the laser grips, just have to keep plugging away, and maybe someday......
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Rohrbaugh just produced #5000 on the R9s, so I would say with R9s and the 380s there are less than 8K in circulation.
John
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I do think Crimson Trace is looking at large production numbers, for sure; to justify their cost and maximize profits.
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Let's not get too discouraged. I'll repeat what I found out a couple of months ago - that CT is looking for 3500 + requests to earnestly begin the process of making any particular grip model. I got the impression that less than that number would not be a problem if the interest shown is fervent enough - and there's a reasonable expectation of ongoing future demand with little chance of gun manufacturer design change causing obsolescence. I'm very curious to know if anyone has info on whether the potential R45 might also utilize the same grip as the R9 / R380. Maybe someone who knows Karl better than I do (I've never spoken with him personally) might be able to find out. If so, there'd obviously then be three models using one CT model grip. Serious bang for their R&D buck.