Thank you all, for the info on keyholeing, it most certainly helps. Now how about felt recoil, I remember one of the Rohrbaugh brothers mentioning an older woman using one of their pistols with no problem. There is no point spending a lot of money and not using the firearm and with autos, for whatever reason there is always a breakin period, so one must go through a lot of rounds for safe functioning. As with vehicles one would think the breakin period for autos would be passe.