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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh Accessories => Topic started by: DanR9SF on July 24, 2009, 01:05:37 PM
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Does anyone make a clip-on belt holster for the R9? Outside the waistband. I'm looking for a holster to wear on the weak side and use cross-draw while seated in the car, so a clip-on belt holster would do the trick. Fast on, fast off is also important hence the clip. Mitch Rosen sells a clip-on but he says he cannot make it for the little R9. He sells other holsters for the R9 so he has the capability - something about the size and shape of the R9 not working well with the clip-on holster he sells.
I'd like to get in the car, clip it on the weak side grip forward, and be able to cross-draw with the strong hand. And I'd like to be able to take it off without having to remove my belt.
Thanks.
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That's a good idea; I did that with a Glock 36 for awhile when I
was driving late at night. I don't know of anyone who makes that
configuration for the R9. I used a Don Hume for the Glock but it
doesn't appear they make anything for the R9.
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Check with David at D.M. Bullard, he lists a cross draw for small autos but it has belt loops, but he may be able to do something with clips.
John
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I asked and Robert with mecopocketholsters.com (http://www.mecopocketholsters.com) - he says "No, problem" - he doesn't have any pic on his site - but he has made custom ordered OWB with a clip on request.
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Thank you, I send Meco an email and will let you know what I end up getting. Still looking around trying to find a picture of such a holster. It should be a small holster with no wings. To be honest all a holster maker will have to do is add the clip on the back of one of their small holsters. Done.
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Mine is an IWB crossdraw and since you asked about OWB so I didn't post pics of mine -but it would look about the same (except he is using what he considers a better clip now).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/isa4031/r9_IWBFront.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/isa4031/r9_IWB_Back.jpg)
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Very nice; not that you are trying to compare the two but my
thought is that the best for in the car carry is the OWB weak side
cross draw. Some people store their gun in a convenient, access-
ible place when they are driving but there is some wisdom to
having it on the body in case the driver and the vehicle become
separated.
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That's why I want a cross draw OWB clip-on when I'm in the car. I usually keep a weapon in the center armrest but that's too far away and it takes too long to get it into my hand. Not long ago I was sitting at a stop light at night and someone managed to walk right up to my drivers side window not 12 inches away. I never saw them approach the car. Luckily I had the window up, I always keep the doors locked, and they were harmless. But if I were looking at a gun barrel that night or some other threat - that weapon in the arm rest would have been useless. I'd like to be more prepared from now on.
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You're right on target; speed and weapon accessibility when
driving a vehicle can be a top priority, not to mention retention.
Pocket carry does not get the job done while driving or in a
sitting position.
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I asked and Robert with mecopocketholsters.com (http://www.mecopocketholsters.com) - he says "No, problem" - he doesn't have any pic on his site - but he has made custom ordered OWB with a clip on request.
I would recommend meco holsters as well. I just received two great looking Armigators and only waited about three weeks.
Workmanship is topnotch! And Robert is easy to deal with.
Thanks Robert!
Reinz
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You're right on target; speed and weapon accessibility when
driving a vehicle can be a top priority, not to mention retention.
Pocket carry does not get the job done while driving or in a
sitting position.
What tracker said. I've been taking mine out of the pocket and laying it in the seat while driving; not liking that at all.
The cross-draw clip holster is good.
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Try Jim at www.hiddenholsters.net.
He was more than willing to accommodate me when he first started, and I imagine he's still doing business that way.
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Just received the clip-on holster from Meco. I'll use it as a cross-draw (left side) on-top-of-the-belt holster. Seems well-made with a good fit. In a month or two I'll post back and give you my impressions.
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/dan0421/Clip2-1.jpg)
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/dan0421/Clip2back.jpg)
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That looks like a very efficient car packing holster.
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Very nice indeed. That will work for me as well.
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Just received the clip-on holster from Meco. I'll use it as a cross-draw (left side) on-top-of-the-belt holster. Seems well-made with a good fit. In a month or two I'll post back and give you my impressions.
Danin, how is it working? I'm new here, and trying to decide on my first holster. Thanks.
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Working just fine however I suggest a change. Sit down in the vehicle and hold the gun in the position you wish it to be while you're driving. The holster I bought holds the gun upright however you'll see that, while driving you really want the gun grip to be pointing forward.
So you should have a holster made for you that has the clip at quite an angle vs straight up as in the picture. I'd also like to see a retention strap because the gun and holster move around a lot when exiting the vehicle.
I need to send mine back and have it modified. Otherwise a nice holster.
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Just received the clip-on holster from Meco. I'll use it as a cross-draw (left side) on-top-of-the-belt holster. Seems well-made with a good fit. In a month or two I'll post back and give you my impressions.
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kelehedo. How's the holster working for you. I do like the cross-draw.
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Greetings all,
I'd like to bump thread this back to the top because I too am very interested in a cross draw for my R9s.
The picture above looks perfect EXCEPT, as Dan points out, the clip needs to be at about a 45 to 60 degree angle to allow for an efficient, smooth cross draw. When this is done it would be prudent if some sort of thin retention strap with a velcro closure be added.
I currently use a modified "Bellyband" which my wife altered to allow the pistol to sit in the "holster" at about a 70 degree angle. It has a rentention "strap" and it's great except living in south Florida it gets "itchy" when worn directly against the skin under an untucked shirt which is almost 12 months a year. I wear it around my rib cage about 5 inches above my waist. if I pull it a little too tight it can begin to become annoying after several hours. I can't breath deeply. <BG>
Question to Robert Locke at Meco if you're reading this thread: Can you tilt the clip to a 45 to 60 degree angle and add a thin strip of something, perhaps anchored on both ends by velcro? (That way it would be optional to either use it or not use it.)
I would be a "for sure" buyer if you can perfect a functional cross draw holster. It doesn't have to leather either. I'd be open to any suitable material.
I hope to hear more on this.
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Quiet1. Give Robert at Meco Holsters a call and he can make what you want, I'm sure. I've talked to him several times and very satisfied with what he can do.
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Dan here again. The cross-draw clip on holster I bought (pictured earlier in this thread) cannot be easily modified without taking it completely apart. So I ordered another one - this time with the belt clip at an angle such that the grip points well-forward when I'm seated in the car (60 to 75 degrees). When it arrives I'll post photos. I've asked Robert to add a retention strap with a thumb break since I don't like the idea of the gun falling out of the holster when I get into or out of the car, or when I bend over. I think this is going to be the ticket. Right now the gun is kept in the console under my elbow and under the hinged padded arm rest cover, and it takes much too long to get it into my hand.
Photos to follow.
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Dan. This sounds just like what we need. I, sometimes, just put mine in the seat, and don't like that at all. It is in the holster and scotched under the seat back; still not good.
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DaninVA,
I'll be looking forward to seeing the pics and hearing your review of your new crossdraw holster after you receive it.
I've just gone ahead and ordered a "paddle style" cross draw Kydex holster from David Brown at buybrownholsters.com. When it arrives I too will post a pic and let you all know my "review".
If anyone else is interested, I've attached copies of my correspondence with David prior to my placing an order.
On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:00 PM, David Brown wrote:
Hi Lance,
I actually can make this holster.
They run 45.00 + 6.00 shipping
Please let me know how I can help you further.
Thank you
David Brown
444 e. angeline ave
Queen Creek AZ 85240
www.buybrownholsters.com
e-mail & pay-pal acct.
azgunnut@earthlink.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Lance
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:12 PM
To: AZgunNut@earthlink.net
Subject: Cross draw for Rohrbaugh R9s
Can you make an OSW Kydex "Cross Draw" holster for the Rohrbaugh R9s?
I would want a 45 degree cant and would prefer either a paddle or clip-on style to a belt style however would use the belt style if that is all you would offer.
If you can make this item please include the price in your reply. Thanks in advance for your reply.=
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Quiet1. Do you think the Kydex holster is OK on the gun's finish?
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Quiet1. Do you think the Kydex holster is OK on the gun's finish?
kj,
I had some apprehension about that until I saw a post from someone who has had long term experience with both Kydex and leather holsters and it was his opinion and experience that Kydex actually causes LESS "holster wear" then leather. (I thought I read that post here but, after a short search, I can't find it so it may have been on another board.)
Anyway, he gave several reasons backing up his claim and they all made very good sense to me. (Number of contact points, Pistol movement, difference of the flexabity between the two materials, etc.)
Another element in the equation is moisture retention between leather and Kydex. I live in southwest Florida where it's really hot during the summer months. It's not unusual to perspire just standing still so that was also an issue. ;D The bottom line though is: We'll see. I hope that the individual who made the above referenced post is correct. If I find it's a problem I'll post my experience here.
Regards, Quiet1
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Quiet1. That certainly would be good to know. I have no experience with Kydex so looking forward to yours. Thanks.
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The Remnora No-Clip holsters can be tucked in the waistband anywhere and can also be used between the belt and pants.
Check them out at:
http://www.remoraholsters.com
We make 5 models that will work with the Rohrbaugh:
1XSMA2 - Hold just the gun in the holster.
1XSMA3 - Holds a gun with added accessories or for those that like a looser fit.
1XSMALP - The gun sits lower in the holster and exposes more of the grip (new product - not in the online store yet, will have to fill out the contact form on the website)
1XSMAWM - Holds the same guns as the 1XSMA3, but with an extra mag pocket.
1XSMAAH - Holds the same guns as the 1ZSMA2, but has velcro attached to use with the velcro leg strappings. Can be used as a pocket holster also.
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Well the cross-draw Meco clip-on belt holster w/retention strap and thumb break just arrived. The 75 degree angle is just right for when you're seated. The retention strap will definitely prevent the gun from falling out of the holster. I have only one concern: the thumb break is going to require some practice.
On an upright strong-side holster the thumb break is typically positioned such that when you go to draw the weapon your thumb naturally falls behind that little flap of the leather strap, and as you fully grip the gun your thumb forces the snap to pop open without your having to even think about it.
On this holster, because of the angle and because of the gun itself and the lack of an exposed hammer - it's going to take some practice to learn to draw the gun and pop open that thumb break. In the pictures it may appear the retention strap isn't fully snapped closed. It's closed completely. It's a good thumb break. All you have to do is put your thumb behind that leather extension, and the snap pops open. If the R9 had an exposed hammer, and if this were an upright holster vs the 75 degree angle, the retention strap would go around the back of the gun instead of kind of under the gun, and that thumb break would be positioned right where your thumb is when you draw the gun. I wanted the strap and thumb break - I'll have to learn to use it or I may remove it.
I just received the holster so these are just my initial impressions.
Nice holster, very well made, gun fits perfectly, strong clip and at the perfect angle.
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/dan0421/Clip1.jpg)
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/dan0421/Clip2.jpg)
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/dan0421/Clip3.jpg)
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Dan. Very nice. Excellent workmanship. I like the full stitching.
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I like it too. I have XXXL hands so for me the thumb break is in the wrong position. The retention strap needs to go around the back of the gun not "under" it. I've contacted Robert to see about making that change. To be honest, the fit of the R9 is good and tight so that strap may not be needed. But in my experience holsters loosen up a bit, and it IS at a 75 degree angle.
I'd hate for the R9 to fall out and onto the ground. Could be an uncomfortable situation.
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I see what you mean on the retention strap. Hope Robert can make the change. I'm going to see if he can make one of these for the Seecamp.
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Maybe instead of the strap a tensioning screw that could be tightened in the event the fit loosened.
John
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Just talked to Robert and he's going to make a cross draw for the Seecamp. I had him make it with the retention strap, as is, on Dan's; fully lined, with full stitching, black; ten to twelve week lead time.
I had to wait for a train at a railroad crossing, in the middle of nowhere, the other day, and thought I better pull the Seecamp out of my pocket for safety reasons; couldn't get it out of the pocket.
I think this will solve that situation.
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I'm going to keep the retention strap as-is. I talked with Robert and the strap "under" the gun is the only way to retain the gun in the holster, at least with a strap. If he were to run the strap around the back of the gun it really wouldn't hold the gun in the holster, it would allow the gun to tip down and go around the strap especially as the holster loosened-up with use.
Robert said he had actually made a holster with a retention strap around the back of the gun (for a Seacamp), and indeed the owner reported that the gun could be rocked down and pulled out of the holster with the strap in-place and secured with the snap. Not good.
So for now I'll keep the holster as-is and practice using that thumb break. A tensioning screw might be the way to go.
Robert is going to call this holster the "Dan The Man" holster! That's a good thing if you ask me!
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A good thing, indeed. Good name for the holster. I had to describe the holster for him when I inquired, but he quickly knew what I was referring. He also described to me the problem of moving the retention strap; so I'll work with it as well.
Thanks for posting this. I knew I wanted one, now I know I need one!
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I like it too. I have XXXL hands so for me the thumb break is in the wrong position. The retention strap needs to go around the back of the gun not "under" it. I've contacted Robert to see about making that change. To be honest, the fit of the R9 is good and tight so that strap may not be needed. But in my experience holsters loosen up a bit, and it IS at a 75 degree angle.
I'd hate for the R9 to fall out and onto the ground. Could be an uncomfortable situation.
If I put hte strap on the end of the slide ( due to the angle of the slide) the gun will come out from under the strap with it snaped. I have tried this before.
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Thats a mighty fine looking holster but that really don't suprize me cause Robert don't make no junk! ;D I might have to get on that 10-12 week wait list in a day or too. ;)
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"Dan the Man" is good, I was thinking the Virginia Cross Draw.
John
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That actually sounds better. Dan The Man is a silly name for a holster. But hey, with residuals expected to be in the neighborhood of $50,000 a year for at least 10 years... I'm OK with it.
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I go with "Dan the Man". More personal! ;D
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Has anyone contacted Robert Meco lately? I've sent him 2 emails in the last 3 weeks and he has not replied to either. Hopefully, he's just on vacation (but really, vacation without his laptop?????).
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I talked to him on the phone on 4/22/10 per post above and put in an order for a cross draw holster. Give him a call on his phone. He gave me a wait time of 10 to 12 weeks.
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I recieved an e-mail from Robert on 5-4-10 ;D
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I just told him your trying to get intouch.
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I did get hold of Robert; thanks! One question about the retention strap: How about putting the snap on the right side of the holster body with a longer, one-piece strap instead of having the snap in the middle of a two-piece strap?
I'll be calling Robert on Monday to place an order..
Thanks again!
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Order is placed! Robert is a great guy to talk with about holsters. He likes the retention strap the way it is because, in his experience, it's easier to unsnap while drawing that way.
I had a couple of other suggestions about how to improve his design but, surprise, surprise, he was able to talk me out of all of them! I guess his experience with many holsters a month is better than my experience of one or two holsters every year or so... ;D
Now I only have to wait 6 to 8 weeks... :'(
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I hope it is 6 to 8 weeks. Maybe Robert is ahead of schedule; quoted me 10 to 12 weeks. I know he most times beats his quote time.
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My bet is it will be well worth the wait! Can't wait to see some pictures!!!!!!!
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I got my caiman holster from Robert a few days ago. Took exactly five weeks from the day I sent the check 'til the day the holster arrived. I was expecting his usual artistry, but I was astounded by how good this holster looked! I swear Robert gets better with every new holster. Gene
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OK, I just got my "Texas Cross-Draw" clip-on holster from Robert and its a beauty! I'm going to try a post a picture:
(http://s947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jsm17600/?action=view¤t=MecoHolsterFt.jpg)
We'll find out shortly if this worked. I'll post comments on the holster shortly.
This did not work. I need help...
I used the Forum post on "pic-post". I uploaded my pictures to Photobucket; then went to the photo and copied the http address; then pasted the http address between the brackets (4th from left, bottom row, YABBC tags). But the picture comes up as a little question mark.
I have a Mac and can only "click" on my pad; I can not "right click". Any ideas from you experienced "picture posters"...??
Thanks
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OK, I just got my "Texas Cross-Draw" clip-on holster from Robert and its a beauty! I'm going to try a post a picture:
(http://s947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jsm17600/?action=view¤t=MecoHolsterFt.jpg)
We'll find out shortly if this worked. I'll post comments on the holster shortly.
This did not work. I need help...
I used the Forum post on "pic-post". I uploaded my pictures to Photobucket; then went to the photo and copied the http address; then pasted the http address between the brackets (4th from left, bottom row, YABBC tags). But the picture comes up as a little question mark.
I have a Mac and can only "click" on my pad; I can not "right click". Any ideas from you experienced "picture posters"...??
Thanks
Let's try this! It worked!
(http://s947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jsm17600/MecoHolsterFt.jpg)
Exellent looing holster. Now I have an idea what mine will look like! ;D
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Can you show a picture of the backside?
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Here's the backside, posted the same way and with the same results.
KJT; you gave me a fish but you forgot to teach me how to fish!! If you would be so kind as to fix this one... and tell me how you did it...
Many thanks
(http://s947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jsm17600/?action=view¤t=MecoHolsterFt.jpg#!oZZ2QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs947.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad315%2Fjsm17600%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DMecoHolsterBk.jpg%26)
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Take this
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jsm17600/MecoHolsterBk.jpg
and highlight the address and hit the insert image button above that looks like a sunset picture. It adds [ img] before the link and [/ img] at the end but without the spaces and then you get...
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/jsm17600/MecoHolsterBk.jpg)
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Chinook. There you go. Thanks Corey. Didn't get here in time to do that one, but it got done. Excellent. I was in a rush awhile ago and didn't have that little extra time. Wife was saying come on, come on. I went!
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Robert, good looking holster, that safety strap is very important. Tom
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You will notice that this holster has a single strap that snaps on the front side. Robert's previous version had a strap in two pieces that snaps in the middle. For this reason, I have dubbed this version the "Texas Cross-Draw". Robert says he prefers the two piece strap because work on the one piece strap is a "pain in the behind". Actually, Robert used a different word than "behind" but my wife might see this email so... If you want a one-piece, you may have to do some persuading...
My only other comment is that, because the gun is so small and the space is so short, the clip mount is considerably shorter than the length of the clip. This allows the clip to slide back and forth more than I like. I think you could sew a cantilever flap (one that has the same stitch pattern as the current mount but extends unattached another inch or so toward the holster top) on the back that would allow a longer clip strap. I plan to talk to Robert about that.
Having said that, the work on this holster is (imho) simply the best available. The fit of the gun is excellent.
Thanks, Robert! Good job!
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Glad you like the holster it was my pleasure thank you Robert
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Nice looking rig, I may have to look for another R9 if I get any more holsters made for it. ;D
John
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Just swap them out daily, John. That'll work; or another R9, as well. Should have the cross-draw today as Robert said it was mailed 6/2/10. We have the mail held while we're gone, so today is the day.
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I hope you have better luck with the mail than I have lately. :(
John
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Got the boat load of mail along with the cross draw from Meco for the Seecamp. Works like a charm. Just what I needed for the vehicle.
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Glad the holster made it OK, some have not been so lucky.
John
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John. Thanks. This is the neatest little holster. Now a cross draw for the right side! :)
The pictures:
(http://s575.photobucket.com/albums/ss197/kjtrains/Ken%20holster/073.jpg)
(http://s575.photobucket.com/albums/ss197/kjtrains/Ken%20holster/072.jpg)
Great work, Robert. Many thanks!
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Bum Phillips once said, "a man can't have too many white, straw hats". I seem to have inadvertently adapted this philosophy for holsters...
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Yep. I know the feeling, except I've done that with guns. I do have a few holsters, though. As long as I have one for each gun, I'm usually OK; usually.......! ;D
Then came along a brand new del Fatti! :)
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Hi All,
New Jarhead to the forum here.
I've been looking for an IWB or OWB holsters for my R9s. I checked out the links everyones' been posting, but they're all open top holsters. I carry my Glock 33 w/out a top-snap on my holster since if it falls out I'm only out a few hundred. Aren't you the least bit nervious carrying your R9's w/out at least a snap button or something?
Either that or I should stop doing backflips when I'm carrying.
Any recommendations?
Thanks
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Welcome aboard, MJ; I think Robert at Meco Holsters could probably address your needs. He can make anything you want.
http://mecopocketholsters.com/iwb.htm
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Welcome to the Forum, MJ. And thank you for your service to our country. Marines are always welcome around this campfire.
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MJ. Welcome to the Forum from me as well. I carry the R9 in a pocket holster and works well for me. I also have a Glock 33 and have a pocket holster for it as well; little more bulky, but still works. Again, welcome.
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Another welcome to the forum MJ! and to add to Richards , thank you for your service to our Great country.
I would also like to agree with Tracker's reccomendation of Meco Pocket Holsters, I have two myself and they work quite well and the service is just as good.
Reinz
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Thanks for the recommendations all! I really appreciate it. I'm going to order one or two Meco holsters first thing tomorrow.
Also, thanks for the warm welcomes. I am really looking forward to contributing and interacting as often as possible.
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Your a smart man MJSeif. Meco makes a awsome holster. Welcome to the forum and hope to see some pics of those holsters once you get them.
corey
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Just placed my order with Meco for 2 pag pouches and a clip-on holster. I'm looking forward to them. I got them in the light tan color. Usually do black, but heck - new pistol, new color holster. I'll post pics and an eval as soon as I get them.
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Sounds good. Don't worry about the color. You'll want more. ;D
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Yep, it's juuuusstt starting. ;)
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More definitely will follow; you have the front pocket, the back pocket that will work nicely in the front pocket, the cross draw that works nicely in the vehicle, and I could go on, but you get the idea. ;)
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Then you may want to get a leftie if you use it for backup or as a secondary pocket.......
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Exactly. I have that and can carry an R9 and a Seecamp or two Seecamps; works.
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When you carry a pocket pistol in each front pocket, that is referred to as GUNFIGHTER style.
That way you can pull two at once and go at it like the Gunfighters of old.
Note: this style of carry does not promote gunfighting or glorify it.
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Don't know about the Gunfighter style; just know it works with the mouse guns. ;)
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Just received the clip-on holster from Meco. I'll use it as a cross-draw (left side) on-top-of-the-belt holster. Seems well-made with a good fit. In a month or two I'll post back and give you my impressions.
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/dan0421/Clip2-1.jpg)
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/dan0421/Clip2back.jpg)
How do you like the holster? I'm thinking of ordering one just like it from Robert. Thanks
Edit: I just read all of the posts and see where you modified it. I'm still thinking of going with one just like this, without the strap.
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Or you can bid on one right here on the forum!
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Or you can bid on one right here on the forum!
Yes, Colonel_D, you can bid on that exact same holster, right here on the forum, right now. Here is the link: http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Water;action=display;num=1296708731
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Yes, Colonel_D, you can bid on that exact same holster, right here on the forum, right now. Here is the link: http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Water;action=display;num=1296708731
Thanks, but it's not the exact same holster. It's reverse of the one in this thread. Robert gave me a price of $122 to make the one in this thread and I'm considering it.
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Sorry about that, I thought it was the same. Robert does excellent work and I am sure that you will be happy with one of his holsters.
His customer service is second to none. I just got a phone call from him, not fifteen minutes ago. He was asking if I had received my holster that he had shipped out on the 2nd. Sadly, I have not received it yet, but I expect it Monday. At any rate, it was an unexpected call and very nice of him to call and check the status.
Danny