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Administration => Forum News and Feedback => Topic started by: MaddogR9 on October 02, 2014, 12:11:52 PM
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In an effort to keep my fellow R9 owners in the loop I am passing on the following info.
With the help of fellow forum member- Josh, I sent the email below to Daniel Cox and Remington Customer service (the email that reach out to Josh Previously on his efforts) on Sept 20th. I remain hopeful that they will help....feeling it would have been easy for them to simply say there is nothing they can do for me at this time...or they are working on the process and will get back to me. I sent it on Sept 20th, immediately received a auto confirmation from customer service that I have also pasted below:
I AM HOPEFUL THEY ARE TRYING....and thought a little begging couldn't hurt!
From: Matt
Date: September 20, 2014 at 11:08:36 EDT
To: "Daniel.Cox@remington.com" <Daniel.Cox@remington.com>, "info@remington.com" <info@remington.com>
Subject: Need Assistance- Please HELP.
Mr. Cox,
I am writing to ask for your assistance as I have struck out everywhere else?......I am a proud owner and collector of all types of firearms; many antiques, as well as modern firearms, including products manufactured under The Freedom Group umbrella of company's. I am in desperate need for a small part for my daily carry Rohrbaugh R9. I NEED A NEW MAG RELEASE, which I lost while changing out my grips and the main spring. I realized Remington/Para USA / Freedom Group are working through the business related issues of reestablishing the Rohrbaugh warranty & service, but I don't need any service or warranty work...I just need this small part.....obviously I am more than willing to pay for your expedited effort....in fact I would like a spare mag release just to be safe.
I have the original pin that holds it in place under the main housing spring but if available I would like new pins as well.
I realize that Remington does not yet have the Rohrbaugh product line up and running but it seems the ONLY spare parts, other that recoil spring, are in Remington Outdoors possession. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your consideration.....
My best,
Matt
Missouri
THERE CONFIRMATION:
From: <donotreply@my304104.mail.crm.ondemand.com>
Date: September 20, 2014 at 11:09:15 EDT
Subject: Ticket 179608 has been created for you
Remington Support
Service Ticket: 179608 - Notification
We have received your E-Mail request about "Need Assistance- Please HELP."
Ticket: 179608 has been created and you should receive an initial response shortly.
Thank you and best regards,
Remington Customer Services
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Let us know what happens. For what it is worth, I understand Remington does have those parts in its possession.
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GOOD NEWS.
Dan Cox contacted me this morning and they have signed a Parts, warranty agreement for the Rohrbaugh line. He said this was for at least the short term...(his words).Parts are being shipped this week. He indicated they would not receive them for about a week.
I contacted the company......and after being passed around by several very nice people was put into contact with the man who signed the agreement. They are not ready for us to contact them just yet. He indicated he hoped it would take them about a month to get thru the parts and get setup. As I found out when I called his parts people, nor his gunsmiths, were aware of the new agreement.
He asked if we could wait a few weeks and then contact them. Base upon my conversations I think they will be good to work with..... He was not at a point to take names or talk about placing service orders.....they need some-time rather then bombarded with calls today.
The contact info is
Williams Gun Sight inc
800-530-9028
PO Box 329 Davison MI 48423
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So this is a Michigan based gun shop that also appears to be the manufactuer for FireSights fiber optic sights.
Williams Service Department is currently a warranty repair center for Browning, Remington, U.S. Repeating Arms Company, Inc. and Weatherby.
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That is great news and at least a sign of life for the pups in the pound.
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I'm confused….Are they going to do warranty work and parts sales, or what?
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Dan Cox's exact words were:
"We have recently just finalized an agreement with our of Remington’s Premier Warranty repair Centers to handle all Rohrbaugh Parts and Warranty work for us in the short term." The format of the contact info is exactly as he emailed it to me.
When I called Williams Gun Sight personnels reflex was to talk about me sending the gun in for work even though they didn't know anything about Rohrbaugh. When I spoke to the man who signed the agreement I asked him for just a part because that was my focus... He said once the parts come in and are inventoried they would begin setting up for service /warranty work. I tried to get an order for the part setup but he wasn't ready to even take a part order and asked me to call back in a few weeks to place the order.
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Thats clear…thanks!
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Sounds good for the guys needing warranty work and parts, but what about the future?
It certainly does not sound like Remington/Para has any intention of getting anything going in the near future as far as production.
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Maybe I'll get some reliable service out of my R9 by Christmas. I can live with that. 👍
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Sorry to be pessimistic but this is ridiculous. I don't blame the brothers for cashing in one bit BUT from a business standpoint this freedom or Remington group look like a binch of bumbling fools. I own Rohrbaughs because I like quality.....not interested in anything these guys are about to f$&@ up. It doesnt seem like they know a damn thing about the biz they bought!
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While I agree the delay continues to be ridiculous, the idea of setting up a third party to handle warranty claims is not at all unusual. At least they are moving in the right direction, no matter how slowly...
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So it looks like Williams is the only spot for help?
Being in MI,I have heard good things about their gunsmithing. But I'm sure they do t know a Farmie from Deer Parker!
That's something they'll have to work on I'm sure. As far as ordering pup parts,your guess is good as mine?
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I know a guy or two they could hire to bring their warranty department up to speed. ;)
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I think this is a very positive development. For Remington to only cover warranties and not produce new R9s would be a sure money loser. The only way that I see them making money on the purchase of Rohrbaugh is to start making products to sell and not just cover warranties on guns already sold. Maybe once they recover from the R51 mess they wil start making the "new" R9.....R as in Remington.
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I think this is a very positive development. For Remington to only cover warranties and not produce new R9s would be a sure money loser. The only way that I see them making money on the purchase of Rohrbaugh is to start making products to sell and not just cover warranties on guns already sold. Maybe once they recover from the R51 mess they wil start making the "new" R9.....R as in Remington.
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Update: I finally have the part I needed. Williams Gunsight was great!!!! After calling late last week, a gunsmith called me back early this week, walked thru my needs, and handled it. My safe queen is back whole and my daily carry has its own parts again.
It all came together this week, to make it even better I was able to purchased another R9 of the same vintage as my orginal....it's been a good week. I really appreciate Williams Gunsight's friendliness and effort.
Thanks to JoshA, DDGator, and everyone for your help!
Matt
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Looks like we are back in business! Glad things worked out for you.
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Finally, some good news! Just curious, was the part covered by the warranty?
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And well before Thanksgiving! ;)
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Update: I finally have the part I needed. Williams Gunsight was great!!!! After calling late last week, a gunsmith called me back early this week, walked thru my needs, and handled it. My safe queen is back whole and my daily carry has its own parts again.
It all came together this week, to make it even better I was able to purchased another R9 of the same vintage as my orginal....it's been a good week. I really appreciate Williams Gunsight's friendliness and effort.
Thanks to JoshA, DDGator, and everyone for your help!
Matt
Glad it's coming together! Glad you are up and running Maddog.
Do you have a name and number we should save in our contacts?
Thanks for the update.
I will post how things go for my warranty repair. I know "duh", right Duane? :)
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I will post how things go for my warranty repair (I know "duh", right Duane? :)
I have no doubts. ;)
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My issue was not warranty.... And they were not really expecting to just sell parts that they had received...they are planning on warranty and service work is my read on it. They were very gracious on selling me the small part I needed and did not try to take advantage of my need. In fact they had to figure how to price it and I think they were very fair. I spoke to Kevin initially as he was the one who knew the situation best while they were still setting up. He put me in contact with a gunsmith; I believe the gunsmith who called me was Alex.. The contact info is as I posted previous!... The phone number is (800) 530-9028. A nice lady called me to expedite my shipment; her named was Tracy and she called me from (810) 653-2131.
Sorry for the delay getting back to you guys...
Matt
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Thanks Matt!
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thanks to all for sharing the information you posted.