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Title: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Richard S on June 12, 2010, 07:34:10 PM
Thursday evening, my younger step-daughter and her husband stopped by our home to visit and to show me a present she had just received from my son-in-law. She was obviously very excited as she pulled a hard pistol case from a shopping bag, announcing that she was scheduled to take the CCW course and examination. I recognized the case. I had given it to her to use for storing her late father's S&W .38 Special J-Frame "Snubby" Revolver. She opened the case and proudly displayed the contents -- a Hi-Point .380 with trigger lock installed. It could barely fit in the case.

"Where's your father's .38?", I asked.

"I can't shoot it as well as this one," she replied, "and I might want you to store it for me again in your gun safe."

"That Hi-Point is a little large for CCW, even in .380 ACP," I said, "but you need to qualify with a weapon you can shoot accurately -- and I'm glad that you're finally taking the CCW class."

I looked at my son-in-law, who was beaming with pride.

I looked at my lovely little step-daughter, who was also beaming with pride.

I didn't know whether to laugh with joy or derision. I'm just glad I used to play poker.

When they had left, "Herself" looked at me and smiled. Then she said, "I know what you were thinking, but you handled that rather well . . . and don't get the idea of giving her a pistol too expensive for her husband to afford. He meant well, and you would just embarrass him."

I got up and poured myself two fingers of an amber liquid.

 :-/
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: kjtrains on June 12, 2010, 07:51:33 PM
Well played, Richard!    :)  
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: birdman on June 12, 2010, 08:23:09 PM
   Richard, it's really hard to be quiet sometimes, but very important and well worth it in the long run. Good job!!   Gene
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: tracker on June 12, 2010, 09:18:47 PM
Well done; I am up to three fingers of scotch trying to suppress memories of encounters with my son-in-law. Surely, she can't enroll in the course with the Hi-Point. Maybe you could offer her some range time with it and if it works possibly give her a quality gun later as a holiday or birthday gift; but I'm sure you have a good plan in mind.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: kjtrains on June 12, 2010, 09:30:50 PM
My bet is, she can.  Our CCW course let you shoot anything you wanted; you just had to qualify.  We had folks from 22's all the way to .45's.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: tracker on June 12, 2010, 09:46:15 PM

Maybe a crossbow in N.C.?
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: kjtrains on June 12, 2010, 09:52:04 PM
I do think it had to be a firearm.   ;D
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: yankee2500 on June 12, 2010, 10:24:26 PM
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Maybe a crossbow in N.C.?

tracker,
   Now that was uncalled for, all though funny, but I'm just a visiting yankee. ;D

Richard,
    Well played. The good thing about a Hi-Point is, if you run out of ammo you can throw it and kill the perp. (almost the same weight and shape as a brick) ;D
  

John
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: tracker on June 12, 2010, 10:33:00 PM

KJ,
Thanks for the impetus to check our minimum caliber: it is .32, very minimal but slightly more than .22 although in some cases I would prefer a .22 magnum.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: kjtrains on June 12, 2010, 10:41:39 PM
I used a Ruger .22LR single action.  Had no problems.  Used this because it was cheaper to shoot.  Not that I really cared, but sure didn't want to waste my .454's, 45LC's, or even .38's.  

It worked out well.    :)
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: tracker on June 12, 2010, 10:45:47 PM

How could you have any problems with that one? I don't blame you for keeping it simple but that is a bit unrealistic for concealed carry.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: kjtrains on June 12, 2010, 11:00:46 PM
Why is it unrealistic?  All you have to do is prove you can shoot!   ;D
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: tracker on June 12, 2010, 11:08:13 PM

The .22 proves you are breathing and vertical; reminds me of some of the FAA Doctors I chose for flight physicals: not exactly Astronaut levels.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: kjtrains on June 12, 2010, 11:17:12 PM
Well, OK!    ;D
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Richard S on June 13, 2010, 09:37:27 AM
Thank you, gentlemen! I just had to vent a bit. And as Tracker observes, I'm working on a plan.  
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: kjtrains on June 13, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
Richard.  I sure hope Herself approves!    ;D    
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: theirishguard on June 14, 2010, 12:50:10 PM
Richard, I sure hope your tongue is Ok after bitting it that hard?! And any time is a good time to have 2-3 fingers of the angel's spirit.  Tom
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: jarcher on November 04, 2011, 05:00:25 AM
Maybe the CCW instructor will explain it to her. My guess, though, is that many people show up with guns which are a poor choice for CCW. People get what they can afford, or what makes them comfortable, or both.

Is she under some threat? If not, just let her carry it in her purse or something. Maybe get her one of those tactical purses, it will fit in that. Honestly, i don't see the big deal.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Reinz on November 06, 2011, 08:09:39 PM
J - it's not all about size or a threat.  

The so called gun is a Hi-Point.  Sugg. Retail of $135, usually sell for around $119; and used for $75-80.

Would you feel comfortable with your daughter driving from NY to LA in a 20 yr old Yugo ?
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: jarcher on November 15, 2011, 10:59:04 AM
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J - it's not all about size or a threat.  

The so called gun is a Hi-Point.  Sugg. Retail of $135, usually sell for around $119; and used for $75-80.

Would you feel comfortable with your daughter driving from NY to LA in a 20 yr old Yugo ?

I'm not an expert on Hi-Points, but my friends tell me they work reliably. It may not be fancy, or expensive, but if it works and she can shoot it and she can afford it, well God bless.

I have noticed most people, including myself, on this board are a little older. Young people starting out can't typically drop $1,000ish on a firearm. That's probably why those of us who do have been around a little while. My Daughter is still 16, but she takes great pride in making her own decisions and funding them. Makes me proud too.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Reinz on November 15, 2011, 05:29:52 PM
J- I know what you mean.  ;)

In fact there was a write up I believe in American Handgunner about a year and half ago on the the Hi- Point.  I think it was the 9mm.   And surprisingly it had very good marks.

But  for me personally, I just could not trust my life or my family member's life to one.  It's just too hard for me to wrap my brain around. :D
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Richard S on November 15, 2011, 07:01:12 PM
Although it is only a .380, it weighs in right at two pounds loaded. Also, beauty being in the eye of the beholder, the item under discussion can be seen and evaluated at this link:

http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/handguns/380acp/hi_point_380acp.html

I am not on this forum to disparage another manufacturer's product, but I do have a plan that will take my step-daughter's self-defense weaponry to another level with no embarrassment to her husband.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Reinz on November 16, 2011, 07:09:20 PM
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I do have a plan that will take my step-daughter's self-defense weaponry to another level with no embarrassment to her husband.


Richard, you being the gentleman that you are, I am positive that it will be a seamless engagement that will go off without a hitch, and no one will be the wiser.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: tracker on November 16, 2011, 07:57:34 PM

If I didn't know better it almost sounds like you would be willing to take the hi-point in on a trade........naah, couldn't happen.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Reinz on November 16, 2011, 09:25:56 PM
Or maybe offer to clean and inspect it for him.  And then accidentally lose an important part, thus having to give him one of his guns for replacement while awaiting the broken part that is forever on backorder.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Richard S on December 02, 2011, 06:33:44 PM
Or maybe offer to clean and inspect it for him.  And then accidentally lose an important part, thus having to give him one of his guns for replacement while awaiting the broken part that is forever on backorder.

Reinz:

That just became "Plan B," to be implemented if "Plan A" comes to grief. 
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Reinz on December 04, 2011, 11:59:58 AM
Richard, I feel confident that your plan A is a much better one than plan B.  And as previously mentioned, I bet it is seamless.

Will love to hear how it all turns out.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Richard S on December 07, 2011, 10:59:43 AM
My preference, of course, would be to give my stepdaughter a Rohrbaugh, but given my instructions as laid down by her mother I am limited to $500 +/- for any pistol I give to her and am to avoid causing any embarrassment to her husband. Therefore, I'm working with my local FFL to implement "Plan A," which would provide them each with a "gently-used" Glock -- a Glock 26 (9x19 Subcompact) for her and a Glock 30 (.45 ACP Subcompact) for him. I'm thinking that should alleviate my concern while pleasing them both and doing no damage to his pride.

Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: yankee2500 on December 07, 2011, 11:24:19 AM
Richard with Christmas on the way it could just br one of there stocking stuffers. ;D 

You can buy a new G-26 for $500 with free shipping off GunBroker.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=262852801

And a new G-30 for $549 with free shipping
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=263866592
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Richard S on December 07, 2011, 05:14:57 PM
Thank you, John. We're on the case.   8)
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Reinz on December 07, 2011, 06:28:20 PM
I like plan A!
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: thor447 on March 20, 2012, 04:38:40 PM
Been a little over 3 months since anyone has posted anything in the 380 threads, just trying to keep it alive!
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Richard S on March 20, 2012, 06:36:26 PM
A bit of thread drift, but speaking of the .380 ACP, CTD is today offering my preferred ammunition in that caliber -- 102-grain Remington Golden Saber JHP -- for $21.66 per box of 25:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2REMGS380B-1.html
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: thor447 on March 20, 2012, 07:16:58 PM
Great rounds, those are my choice as well for my 380's.
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: tracker on March 20, 2012, 07:37:18 PM


Certainly not intended as an attempt at one upsmanship or the last word psychological syndrome but Ammunitiontogo has the inimitable Golden Sabres listed at $17.95/25 round box.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/380-auto-hollow-point-ammo
Title: Re: Test for a Father-in-Law
Post by: Richard S on March 20, 2012, 08:23:14 PM


Certainly not intended as an attempt at one upsmanship or the last word psychological syndrome but Ammunitiontogo has the inimitable Golden Sabres listed at $17.95/25 round box.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/380-auto-hollow-point-ammo

Tracker:

Thank you for that link. I hadn't placed my order yet with CTD, so you just saved me enough to add an extra box to the order I was planning.