It seems that the OP, renrew, began this thread by praising his Tribute and Gold Dot ammo as a superb combination of two quality products working together as a system. One of the many good things about this forum is that most of us are on a quest for the best, whether it is the pup, ammo, holster, accessories, tools, lubricant, or just good information. In that regard there is no thread drift when we are all seeking the best and in a very collegial environment.