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Title: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: tattoo on March 31, 2017, 04:50:33 PM
Guys be careful. I think it was made to look like an elite.  Up to 1850 now. Sorry don't know how to put the add.  He listed it as a stealth.  Buyer beware. 
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Post by: kevinqjhps on March 31, 2017, 04:57:13 PM
Guilty as charged. I bid BEFORE I saw the Rohrbaugh in silver rather than black BUT It has the correct finish as my Elite and to fake/polish the sides would be VERY tough. Eric said he trashed a few polishing the sides, it cut galled the steel and would have cut into the letters if he tried to repair it.

I will stick with by bid. ;D I thinks it's real.
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: tattoo on March 31, 2017, 05:07:08 PM
Well Gl then 👍🏻
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Post by: MRC on March 31, 2017, 05:10:33 PM
I think it is a Standard Model.  I would ask for pictures under better light.  I do not think it is a Steath even.
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Post by: kevinqjhps on March 31, 2017, 05:29:45 PM
I asked the seller to remove my bid. I compared it CLOSLY to mine and it is a FAKE! if he doesn't remove my bid I will report it as a fake.
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Post by: MRC on March 31, 2017, 05:32:43 PM
Look at pictures 1 and 2.  It appears to me that the slide is all stainless.  The other shots are just shadows in my opinion.
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: tattoo on March 31, 2017, 05:48:30 PM
I think it is a Standard Model.  I would ask for pictures under better light.  I do not think it is a Steath even.
i agree. But was hoping no one would be fooled by the elite look he was going for. Thieves everywhere.  👍🏻
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Post by: tattoo on March 31, 2017, 05:52:44 PM
And just my luck. People buying all the hogue extreme  grips up to make fake elites. 😡
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Post by: PhilZ on March 31, 2017, 06:13:26 PM
The standard Stealth grips are included as seen in the first picture.  I don't know who would buy an Elite and then buy a pair of standard grips to go along with it. 
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: tattoo on March 31, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Guilty as charged. I bid BEFORE I saw the Rohrbaugh in silver rather than black BUT It has the correct finish as my Elite and to fake/polish the sides would be VERY tough. Eric said he trashed a few polishing the sides, it cut galled the steel and would have cut into the letters if he tried to repair it.

I will stick with by bid. ;D I thinks it's real.
i am glad you changed your mind.
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: BlueC2 on March 31, 2017, 06:21:51 PM
It has the periods between the U.S.A. Those slides were produced after the Elites were out of production. The only Elite with those markings is one that was sent back to the factory for rework and Erick had to personally do another stealth slide by hand to fit to the gun. I own that firearm. I miss the days when you could call Maria and ask her if such and such a serial number was a factory elite, robar or SF.

Perhaps Erick will chime in and verify. But this is a stealth that someone sanded the slide on.

Ryan
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Post by: kevinqjhps on March 31, 2017, 07:53:33 PM
I SHOULD keep my mouth shut, since I am the only bidder but I just spoke with Eric on the phone. It IS the real deal. He said he tried different things on the Elite, one being leaving the Rohrbaugh R9 in silver. The U.S.A. instead of USA just means it was a later model with the updated firing pin placement. Same with the Deer Park in 'Block' instead of script letters. Just a letter model Elite.

YES it is a bit different then my Elite but Eric confirms it's the real deal, just one he made a bit different.
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Post by: BlueC2 on March 31, 2017, 08:25:02 PM
You are free to pay your money and take your chances but I would not buy it. All of my research indicates that they were all done making the elites when they moved to the updated slide. That sanding looks a bit heavy handed for all the Elites I have seen. Good luck.
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Post by: BlueC2 on March 31, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Has anyone asked what the serial number is I can't make it out?
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: PhilZ on March 31, 2017, 09:40:03 PM
The two sets of grips is the tip-off for me.  Better pics would help too.  The GB pics seem to show some black left on the middle of the sides of the slides, as if the person doing the sanding gave up before going too far.  It could be shadows or bad lighting. 

Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: kevinqjhps on April 01, 2017, 07:37:21 AM
The two sets of grips is the tip-off for me.  Better pics would help too.  The GB pics seem to show some black left on the middle of the sides of the slides, as if the person doing the sanding gave up before going too far.  It could be shadows or bad lighting.



Hi Phil,

See post 3 above. I spoke with Eric on the phone yesterday, he was kind enough offering advice to a young friend of mine who wants to get into competitive shooting. I asked him about this Elite and the few differences it has with mine and and a few others. He laughed and said he DID make it that way just for the heck of it. He said he did a few just for the heck of it. Since there were only 50-70 Elite's made and this is a one of a VERY VERY few he experimented with.

If you are looking for one THIS is the one to get. It has to be what one of 5 or one of 10? No more than that. 

If anyone knows, it's the man who built it. Bid with faith it's the real deal.
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: BlueC2 on April 01, 2017, 08:15:35 AM
The first Elite models produced did come with the standard grips and the hogue extreme were added to the later elites. What isn't adding up is the old grips plus the newest version of the slide.
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Post by: MRC on April 01, 2017, 08:43:40 AM
The first Elite models produced did come with the standard grips and the hogue extreme were added to the later elites. What isn't adding up is the old grips plus the newest version of the slide.

I agree, I think someone needs to confirm the serial number and have Eric take another look at.

The scammers on the Colts are very adept at taking pictures out of focus and with strange lighting like I am seeing on this gun to hide things.
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Post by: turkeyhunter on April 01, 2017, 12:25:26 PM
Mr Driver sure knows how to drive the price. He bids on everything and is not bashful with his bid amounts
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: kevinqjhps on April 01, 2017, 03:49:46 PM
You are free to pay your money and take your chances but I would not buy it. All of my research indicates that they were all done making the elites when they moved to the updated slide. That sanding looks a bit heavy handed for all the Elites I have seen. Good luck.


Each to his own opinion but the guy who BUILT THE GUN went over each picture with me yesterday, on the phone, and EXPLAINED THE DIFFERENCES and why he made them that way. For what it's worth, after speaking to Eric, I am back in the bidding. The way he explained it this is the rare of the rare.   
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Post by: BlueC2 on April 01, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
You are free to pay your money and take your chances but I would not buy it. All of my research indicates that they were all done making the elites when they moved to the updated slide. That sanding looks a bit heavy handed for all the Elites I have seen. Good luck.


Each to his own opinion but the guy who BUILT THE GUN went over each picture with me yesterday, on the phone, and EXPLAINED THE DIFFERENCES and why he made them that way. For what it's worth, after speaking to Eric, I am back in the bidding. The way he explained it this is the rare of the rare.   

It was also the same man who built the gun that at one point told me that the elites were discontinued before the slide was updated and only the one gun that came back for factory work would have the updated slide. It really doesn't matter if someone were to do a very nice job polishing the slide there is really no way to tell the difference. If it comes with the cardboard box it would say Elite but it is rare that people still have those. For your sake I hope it is a factory gun and not a hack job.
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: tattoo on April 01, 2017, 04:29:57 PM
Well Gl then 👍🏻
well gl then👍🏻
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: kevinqjhps on April 01, 2017, 07:39:37 PM
You are free to pay your money and take your chances but I would not buy it. All of my research indicates that they were all done making the elites when they moved to the updated slide. That sanding looks a bit heavy handed for all the Elites I have seen. Good luck.


Each to his own opinion but the guy who BUILT THE GUN went over each picture with me yesterday, on the phone, and EXPLAINED THE DIFFERENCES and why he made them that way. For what it's worth, after speaking to Eric, I am back in the bidding. The way he explained it this is the rare of the rare.   

It was also the same man who built the gun that at one point told me that the elites were discontinued before the slide was updated and only the one gun that came back for factory work would have the updated slide. It really doesn't matter if someone were to do a very nice job polishing the slide there is really no way to tell the difference. If it comes with the cardboard box it would say Elite but it is rare that people still have those. For your sake I hope it is a factory gun and not a hack job.




Just to clarify this a bit: Are you saying Eric, THE MAN WHO BUILT THE GUN, doesn't know what he is talking about but a few people on this site know more about what HE DID than HE DOES?  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: kevinqjhps on April 01, 2017, 07:58:59 PM
p.s. look at the Classifieds. The Elite Eric built for Duane also does NOT HAVE the Rohrbaugh R9 in black, it's silver.
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Post by: cargaritaville on April 01, 2017, 10:10:49 PM
Awhile back, I bought every Wilson Combat Spec-Ops 9 I could find on spec. Then 2 guys with more bucks than brains started fighting it out on one of my guns. It reached stupid levels so I put a 2nd one on to satisfy both of them. Both sold at ridiculous prices. I put another one on, and now everyone thought that those stupid prices were the norm. I sold all of them, all at stupid prices. Then a few more were listed, but they did less. A few more did less again, and again, and again. In a 1 year period, they are now selling for less than I was paying for them. The bubble was artificial & created by 2 guys. Lesson learned. Why am I writing this? Not to compare this scenario to anyone. But to stress the point that one needs to be careful.  We as members of this forum always talk price and we never judge. But we do have our opinions.
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Post by: kevinqjhps on April 02, 2017, 08:11:47 AM
Awhile back, I bought every Wilson Combat Spec-Ops 9 I could find on spec. Then 2 guys with more bucks than brains started fighting it out on one of my guns. It reached stupid levels so I put a 2nd one on to satisfy both of them. Both sold at ridiculous prices. I put another one on, and now everyone thought that those stupid prices were the norm. I sold all of them, all at stupid prices. Then a few more were listed, but they did less. A few more did less again, and again, and again. In a 1 year period, they are now selling for less than I was paying for them. The bubble was artificial & created by 2 guys. Lesson learned. Why am I writing this? Not to compare this scenario to anyone. But to stress the point that one needs to be careful.  We as members of this forum always talk price and we never judge. But we do have our opinions.


EXCELLENT point. I buy mine to SHOOT not collect. I used to collect S&W pre lock wheel guns. Prices started going through the roof and I started selling. In 2 years I sold almost 90 and did very very well. Prices are now in the tank.

Though not exactly the same, wheel guns are slowly going out of favor, I think the R9 will continue to be popular due to it's size, quality and power.

kevinqqjhps
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Post by: kevinqjhps on April 02, 2017, 05:11:17 PM
So far I am high bidder on G-broker but I am all in on it. Another opportunity just came up so if I loose this, so be it. No more last minute bidding for me. :-\
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: BlueC2 on April 04, 2017, 08:45:12 AM
So far I am high bidder on G-broker but I am all in on it. Another opportunity just came up so if I loose this, so be it. No more last minute bidding for me. :-\

Looks like you dodged a bullet. With a R5XXX SN there is no way that is a factory production elite.
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Post by: kevinqjhps on April 04, 2017, 08:52:43 AM
So far I am high bidder on G-broker but I am all in on it. Another opportunity just came up so if I loose this, so be it. No more last minute bidding for me. :-\

Looks like you dodged a bullet. With a R5XXX SN there is no way that is a factory production elite.


You are right and  the man who BUILT THE GUN AND LOOKED AT EVERY PICTURE CONFIRMING IT'S REAL is wrong?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: BlueC2 on April 04, 2017, 08:57:58 AM
So far I am high bidder on G-broker but I am all in on it. Another opportunity just came up so if I loose this, so be it. No more last minute bidding for me. :-\

Looks like you dodged a bullet. With a R5XXX SN there is no way that is a factory production elite.


You are right and  the man who BUILT THE GUN AND LOOKED AT EVERY PICTURE CONFIRMING IT'S REAL is wrong?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

The pictures in the listing don't allow you to see the SN. The seller added it to his description b/c I asked him.
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: kevinqjhps on April 04, 2017, 09:03:54 AM
So far I am high bidder on G-broker but I am all in on it. Another opportunity just came up so if I loose this, so be it. No more last minute bidding for me. :-\

Looks like you dodged a bullet. With a R5XXX SN there is no way that is a factory production elite.


You are right and  the man who BUILT THE GUN AND LOOKED AT EVERY PICTURE CONFIRMING IT'S REAL is wrong?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

The pictures in the listing don't allow you to see the SN. The seller added it to his description b/c I asked him.




In all due respect. Don't get hung up on sn's. Eric told are on the phone he remembered this gun. He said he did a few like this, including the site Moderator's. 
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: MRC on April 04, 2017, 09:39:46 AM
So far I am high bidder on G-broker but I am all in on it. Another opportunity just came up so if I loose this, so be it. No more last minute bidding for me. :-\

Looks like you dodged a bullet. With a R5XXX SN there is no way that is a factory production elite.

The Seller is getting generous now too.

He is throwing in shipping and the first $1000 of insurance on a gun worth $850.00.  JMO
Title: Re: Rohrbaugh r9 stealth? GunBroker
Post by: BlueC2 on April 04, 2017, 09:43:49 AM
Most people that paid extra $ to buy an Elite and likely had to track one down to even find one in the first place know what it is and tend to sell it as such.
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Post by: cargaritaville on April 04, 2017, 09:52:51 AM
I think that enough has been said on this topic. I do not care what it is, what it is not, who buys it, who doesn't buy it, who got screwed, who overpaid for it, who got a deal, who said what, and on, and on, and on. My father used to have a saying. " No matter how many times you wash a donkeys head, you still have a donkeys head!".
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Post by: tattoo on April 04, 2017, 10:02:41 AM
Scared to think what a coyote would sale for now.  The rarest of rare
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Post by: turkeyhunter on April 04, 2017, 03:24:19 PM
 What is the Stealth Elite serial number range
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Post by: kevinqjhps on April 04, 2017, 04:12:48 PM
What is the Stealth Elite serial number range



People ASSUME there was but Eric said he made them as the mood fit.
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Post by: tattoo on April 05, 2017, 09:26:36 PM
Want 🙏🏻