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Miscellaneous => The Water Cooler -- General Discussions => Topic started by: jh225 on August 02, 2017, 12:49:26 AM
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So, another early serial number is up on GB, #109. No box, papers, etc and I question the grips.
Shouldn't this have the Blue/Black grips?
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I think that should definitely have carbon fiber grips and probably blue @ R109. Prior owner might have wanted to sell the gun but wanted to keep or sell original grips separately.
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Yes that would have had blue CF grips for sure. Is that a silver frame hard to tell for sure from the pics? If so super rare only 12-16 made based on forum history.
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Yes that would have had blue CF grips for sure. Is that a silver frame hard to tell for sure from the pics? If so super rare only 12-16 made based on forum history.
Looks like early purple/gray frame to me.
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I recently made this thread about it
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=8891.msg92686#msg92686 (http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=8891.msg92686#msg92686)
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Here is the Gunbroker link for those interested.
Currently at $800 with zero bids and no reserve.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/676453969
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Here is the Gunbroker link for those interested.
Currently at $800 with zero bids and no reserve.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/676453969
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One mag, no box, no papers, early number. I think that $800 is a 'bit' high.
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Past history.
http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=6932.msg79579#msg79579
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Here is the Gunbroker link for those interested.
Currently at $800 with zero bids and no reserve.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/676453969
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One mag, no box, no papers, early number. I think that $800 is a 'bit' high.
Not judging the value, just noting the details.
However I did notice that the ad does not mention anything about the serial number and it's place in 'history'.
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Yes that would have had blue CF grips for sure. Is that a silver frame hard to tell for sure from the pics? If so super rare only 12-16 made based on forum history.
Looks like early purple/gray frame to me.
Phil - you are correct that first pic when looking on my phone made it look silverish but it is the standard frame color
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Hope I didn't step on anyones toes. I have NO IDEA who owns the gun. But without box, papers, and only one mag TO ME it's A $600 GUN. Others? Well if you have none it may be a good deal. Each to his own. I guess. Once again. I should have thought BRFORE opening mouth. Sorry again whoever the owner is.
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Someone robbed the extra goodies from this early Farmy I feel sorry for it for sure!
IMO it is worth at least the asking price because of it being what it is and in decent shape...
Blue grips,mags and case can still be found and at least it'd look like the Pup it should be!
All just IMO of course.
Good luck to the seller!
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OK guys, here's my take on this one.
First off it is R109 and not 109. Those are black G10 grips and not the original blue/black carbon fiber grip sets. Looking at the photos, this gun has hardly been carried, nor shot. I say that because if you look at the front of the frame, it is like new. The "stuff" you see in the photos in the trigger guard are not wear, but simply pocket dust. Looking at the SS glass beaded trigger, take notice it is like new also, no tell-tale wear from trigger usage. Moving to the slide serrations. . . clean like new, no debris from cycling the slide. If you look at the last photograph, please note that this is the original slide. Look at the rear of the slide and you can see the sharp edge at the lower line then taking a sharp C.N.C. cut towards to the top of the slide. The slides we did a short time later we contoured that area (rounded it off) by hand on a grinding/buffer wheel. Those sharp rear edges slides are not common later on in production. Now, with all of that said, the frame on that R9 is in fact the early purplish frame anodizing treatment.
To finish my analysis of this R9 for sale: Put a set of original blue/black carbon fiber grips on this gun and it will be worth the effort as an original low number R9. With the R prefix on this serial numbered R9, this frame is the reinforced, updated version. Those R9s without the R prefix, the area of the frame where the barrel pin fits in to is thinner than the upgraded frame, which has the R prefix before the serial number.
This is a sleeper in my humble opinion.
Eric R.
BTW: I have no ides who owns this. I am just throwing this out there because I see things other people miss. I would say this is an overall tight R9 specimen that can be brought back to stock configuration with the correct grip set. Everything else on the gun looks tight, clean and correct here.
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BTW Kevin. . . . . I believe you're good here. ;)
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OK guys, here's my take on this one.
First off it is R109 and not 109. Those are black G10 grips and not the original blue/black carbon fiber grip sets. Looking at the photos, this gun has hardly been carried, nor shot. I say that because if you look at the front of the frame, it is like new. The "stuff" you see in the photos in the trigger guard are not wear, but simply pocket dust. Looking at the SS glass beaded trigger, take notice it is like new also, no tell-tale wear from trigger usage. Moving to the slide serrations. . . clean like new, no debris from cycling the slide. If you look at the last photograph, please note that this is the original slide. Look at the rear of the slide and you can see the sharp edge at the lower line then taking a sharp C.N.C. cut towards to the top of the slide. The slides we did a short time later we contoured that area (rounded it off) by hand on a grinding/buffer wheel. Those sharp rear edges slides are not common later on in production. Now, with all of that said, the frame on that R9 is in fact the early purplish frame anodizing treatment.
To finish my analysis of this R9 for sale: Put a set of original blue/black carbon fiber grips on this gun and it will be worth the effort as an original low number R9. With the R prefix on this serial numbered R9, this frame is the reinforced, updated version. Those R9s without the R prefix, the area of the frame where the barrel pin fits in to is thinner than the upgraded frame, which has the R prefix before the serial number.
This is a sleeper in my humble opinion.
Eric R.
BTW: I have no ides who owns this. I am just throwing this out there because I see things other people miss. I would say this is an overall tight R9 specimen that can be brought back to stock configuration with the correct grip set. Everything else on the gun looks tight, clean and correct here.
Well problem/issue is if isn't sold with grips, box, papers, and extra mag, someone on will Here will start screaming FAKE, FAKE, FAKE. it happens EVERY SINGLE time something is sold.
Sad really that their lives are so shallow that is all they have to complain in life about.
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Well, to put some resolve into what you say here Kevin. . . . . Folks, it is not FAKE. It still is one of the first R9s out there. Serial Number R109 puts it as the 9th. R9 pistol to the public in 2004. That is undisputable. Yes, there were about 55 or so, give/take, of the no prefix models prior to the R prefix jobs, most of which went to shareholders. . . . . but this R109 is REAL . . . . . The 9th. R9 Pistol for public consumption.
Now, let's see where it goes. :D
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It went for 1K. Man My collection just jumped up in value.
Less than 8-9 months ago I bought a LNIB 2 tone with box, papers and 2 mags for $800. How times have changed. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Well, to put some resolve into what you say here Kevin. . . . . Folks, it is not FAKE. It still is one of the first R9s out there. Serial Number R109 puts it as the 9th. R9 pistol to the public in 2004. That is undisputable. Yes, there were about 55 or so, give/take, of the no prefix models prior to the R prefix jobs, most of which went to shareholders. . . . . but this R109 is REAL . . . . . The 9th. R9 Pistol for public consumption.
Now, let's see where it goes. :D
I don't think anybody thought it was fake, just the prior seller had misinformation in the listing.
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Ah ha . . . . .
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I think that it was a very good buy.
I have everything to restore it back to original, I just did not need it and did not want to butt heads with equity man and end up with an expensive gun.
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Don't forget Beemer1.
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Don't forget Beemer1.
Who is Beemer1?
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Also, who is Equity Man, Eric?
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Well, to put some resolve into what you say here Kevin. . . . . Folks, it is not FAKE. It still is one of the first R9s out there. Serial Number R109 puts it as the 9th. R9 pistol to the public in 2004. That is undisputable. Yes, there were about 55 or so, give/take, of the no prefix models prior to the R prefix jobs, most of which went to shareholders. . . . . but this R109 is REAL . . . . . The 9th. R9 Pistol for public consumption.
Now, let's see where it goes. :D
I don't think anybody thought it was fake, just the prior seller had misinformation in the listing.
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Hi Phil,
Pardon me but when exactly did I say it was a FAKE? I DID state that I thought, and still do even more now, that at at at $800 it was overpriced. Whoever bought may have really wanted it so TO THEM $1K is nothing.
I have 6 R9's and would pay nowhere near $800 for a one mag with no box and papers. I guess if you had a box and papers that would complete it, which would be fine with me BUT...BUT.....the site crybaby would yell " it didn't cone with it so it is all fake."
Lets KEEP the 'FAKE" title to the one who cries wolf so often.
You seem to have a problem with 'making up quotes' and stating that their are mine. This is not the first or second time you have pulled this childish crap. It's getting old sport. Cut it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, to put some resolve into what you say here Kevin. . . . . Folks, it is not FAKE. It still is one of the first R9s out there. Serial Number R109 puts it as the 9th. R9 pistol to the public in 2004. That is undisputable. Yes, there were about 55 or so, give/take, of the no prefix models prior to the R prefix jobs, most of which went to shareholders. . . . . but this R109 is REAL . . . . . The 9th. R9 Pistol for public consumption.
Now, let's see where it goes. :D
I don't think anybody thought it was fake, just the prior seller had misinformation in the listing.
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Hi Phil,
Pardon me but when exactly did I say it was a FAKE? I DID state that I thought, and still do even more now, that at at at $800 it was overpriced. Whoever bought may have really wanted it so TO THEM $1K is nothing.
I have 6 R9's and would pay nowhere near $800 for a one mag with no box and papers. I guess if you had a box and papers that would complete it, which would be fine with me BUT...BUT.....the site crybaby would yell " it didn't cone with it so it is all fake."
Lets KEEP the 'FAKE" title to the one who cries wolf so often.
You seem to have a problem with 'making up quotes' and stating that their are mine. This is not the first or second time you have pulled this childish crap. It's getting old sport. Cut it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kev,
You're badgering the wrong person. You seem to be confused on how the replies work. The quote in my post is ECR quoting you. I replied nobody thought it was fake. You read posts and then post an angry reply with the number of Rohrbaughs you have and call people names like "sport". Overall, this forum tries to be more congenial than that. Phil
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Beemer1 and Equity Man are "deep pocket" bidders on Gun Broker. They usually step on all others.
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Well, to put some resolve into what you say here Kevin. . . . . Folks, it is not FAKE. It still is one of the first R9s out there. Serial Number R109 puts it as the 9th. R9 pistol to the public in 2004. That is undisputable. Yes, there were about 55 or so, give/take, of the no prefix models prior to the R prefix jobs, most of which went to shareholders. . . . . but this R109 is REAL . . . . . The 9th. R9 Pistol for public consumption.
Now, let's see where it goes. :D
I don't think anybody thought it was fake, just the prior seller had misinformation in the listing.
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Hi Phil,
Pardon me but when exactly did I say it was a FAKE? I DID state that I thought, and still do even more now, that at at at $800 it was overpriced. Whoever bought may have really wanted it so TO THEM $1K is nothing.
I have 6 R9's and would pay nowhere near $800 for a one mag with no box and papers. I guess if you had a box and papers that would complete it, which would be fine with me BUT...BUT.....the site crybaby would yell " it didn't cone with it so it is all fake."
Lets KEEP the 'FAKE" title to the one who cries wolf so often.
You seem to have a problem with 'making up quotes' and stating that their are mine. This is not the first or second time you have pulled this childish crap. It's getting old sport. Cut it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kev,
You're badgering the wrong person. You seem to be confused on how the replies work. The quote in my post is ECR quoting you. I replied nobody thought it was fake. You read posts and then post an angry reply with the number of Rohrbaughs you have and call people names like "sport". Overall, this forum tries to be more congenial than that. Phil
I use the term 'Sport' because Duane would be upset if i really expressed my true feelings about a 'child' who's favorite word is "FAKE." Invest your money WISELY and you can afford more than one. "FAKE" or not. We don't care nor will we cry "FAKE..."FAKE" . In fact to the best of my memory YOU are the only one hung up on that. The rest of us enjoy our guns, be it one or 6 and leave the other people to spend TEIR MONEY the way they see fit.
Have a nice day sport. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well, to put some resolve into what you say here Kevin. . . . . Folks, it is not FAKE. It still is one of the first R9s out there. Serial Number R109 puts it as the 9th. R9 pistol to the public in 2004. That is undisputable. Yes, there were about 55 or so, give/take, of the no prefix models prior to the R prefix jobs, most of which went to shareholders. . . . . but this R109 is REAL . . . . . The 9th. R9 Pistol for public consumption.
Now, let's see where it goes. :D
I don't think anybody thought it was fake, just the prior seller had misinformation in the listing.
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Hi Phil,
Pardon me but when exactly did I say it was a FAKE? I DID state that I thought, and still do even more now, that at at at $800 it was overpriced. Whoever bought may have really wanted it so TO THEM $1K is nothing.
I have 6 R9's and would pay nowhere near $800 for a one mag with no box and papers. I guess if you had a box and papers that would complete it, which would be fine with me BUT...BUT.....the site crybaby would yell " it didn't cone with it so it is all fake."
Lets KEEP the 'FAKE" title to the one who cries wolf so often.
You seem to have a problem with 'making up quotes' and stating that their are mine. This is not the first or second time you have pulled this childish crap. It's getting old sport. Cut it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I use the term 'Sport' because Duane would be upset if i really expressed my true feelings about a 'child' who's favorite word is "FAKE." Invest your money WISELY and you can afford more than one. "FAKE" or not. We don't care nor will we cry "FAKE..."FAKE" . In fact to the best of my memory YOU are the only one hung up on that. The rest of us enjoy our guns, be it one or 6 and leave the other people to spend TEIR MONEY the way they see fit.
Have a nice day sport. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Kevin,
Please quote where I said it was fake. I never mentioned how anyone should spend their money. I don't think I'm a 'child', 'site crybaby', or 'sport'. I've been a forum member since 2005, and we get someone every few years who rolls in and posts angry replies and calls names and is pleasant at times but rude others. Other people get caught up in trolling the troll by pushing his buttons. I posted about a box and others commented about it being fake, which you didn't like. Usually these angry members burn out pretty quickly as the congenial nature of the forum isn't for them. We'll see. Phil
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You're right, Phil. Nothing was said that would warrant the intensity of these vituperative responses. With a chip on his shoulder this large there must be other demons on his back. I have never witnessed such hostility from a member on this forum as I have from Kevin's invective.
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Did someone forget to take a pill recently?
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Help is available.
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This is why I usually do not join forums and was reluctant to do so here while we had the business. Please guys. . . please let's put this behind us. . . . take a breath. . . . and move forward in a good light. Kevin, my mentioning FAKE was not put towards you, but rather anyone who would use full caps and verbiage here. Let's please, all of us, drop it right here, right now. . . . and continue with our good camaraderie. No hits ~ No errors ~ Just camaraderie. Thanks everyone in advance . . . . . .
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Also, who is Equity Man, Eric?
Hey Tracker,
I spoke with Equityman this afternoon. Nice guy, older gentleman and a very serious gun collector. He has numerous collections of different style firearms and has multiples of each one. Yes, a serious collector. I will not divulge his name or state of residence, but he is a super dude. . . . . That's all I can say besides the fact that he is not a member of the forum.
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Thanks, Eric.
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I didn't realize this discussion went off track. Lets shut it down... :-X