The Rohrbaugh Forum
Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: Chief-USN on December 02, 2010, 10:19:13 AM
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Over time it has become apparent to me that the members here do not mind sharing their opinions. ;D I know, shocking as it is ::) . But I am going to open the door and ask for it. I am in the market for another carry .45 Cal 1911 and am on the fence between the Nighthawk T3 and the Wilson Bill Wilson carry. Anyone have any thoughts on these?
And as a side note, I just bought my wife a Kimber S/S Ultra Raptor For Xmas, she fell in love with the Lizard scale treatment on the slide and feather Treatment on the grips)
Chief
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I really like the Ed Brown Bobtail Kobra Carry Lightweight.
Both of your choices are good ones but I have no first hand experience with either.
http://www.edbrown.com/kobracarrylw.htm
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/Kobra-Carry-LW.jpg)
John
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I'm partial to the Ed Brown, and your two choices are great!
(http://s575.photobucket.com/albums/ss197/kjtrains/IVORY.jpg)
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I really like the Ed Brown Bobtail Kobra Carry Lightweight.
Both of your choices are good ones but I have no first hand experience with either.
http://www.edbrown.com/kobracarrylw.htm
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/Kobra-Carry-LW.jpg)
John
I already have a Talon II Bobtailed Lightweight which is pretty much the same critter. Looking for something differant
Chief
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OK, I just checked out both and my vote goes for the T3 with a Hard Chrome finish. ;D
John
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Get one of each in the Hard Chrome finish and you'll be covered. ;D
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Chief:
That's a close call, but on balance I think I would go with the Nighthawk T3. It is just a little bigger than the Wilson, but given that it also has a 4.25" barrel compared with the Wilson's 4" -- and in the 1911s, I believe every little bit helps.
During your research you have probably already seen these two reviews, but if not you may find them of interest:
Nighthawk T3:
http://www.m1911.org/ezine/nhcT3.htm
Wilson Bill Wilson Carry:
http://ezine.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=23
As you noted, opinions are easy to obtain around here -- and they're probably worth about what you pay for them. Anyway, that's mine.
Whichever one you select, you will have a real prize. (When you have it in hand . . . pictures, please?)
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I am really on the fence with this one. I tend to think one gets more "bang" (Pun Intended ;D) for the buck w/ Nighthawk but the Wilson is slightly smaller and as we know with the Rohrbaughs, one would tend to carry it more if it was more easily carried. Also there is the fact I have never owned a Wilson so there is a curiosity factor. hmmm
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I talked with Nighthawk yesterday and happened to ask about if they were coming out with a 100th Anniversary model for the 1911. They told me they were and it was coming out at the SHOT show in Jan. Would not tell me any more about it though. They did tell me I would be among the first offered it and that they would contact me as soon as it is officially announced. I did ask him if it was something I would be interested in, since he knows what I like (Form follows Function, I am not looking for a safe queen) And he told me "Definately"..... Uh oh.....
Chief
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Great, Chief. Sounds like something to look forward to.
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I'm sure you know about Volkmann but here is an interesting review.
http://ezine.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=33
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Yes, I have talked to Him on the phone as well. He is a very nice guy. His guns used to be a deal but he had about a 20% Price hike not long after the article, and now not so good a deal when you take into concideration factors such as Warrantee and support. Being a one man shop, any work needed could be lengthy. But he does make beautiful guns. Also I already have a version of his Combat Carry Bobtail, I have a Nighthawk Talon II Bobtail (With Aluminum Frame). I am looking for an alternative to that configuration just for variety.
Chief
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I have a Bill Wilson CQB and a full size CQB. They are great guns. I have a Crimson Trace laser grip on the compact and use a Milt Sparks Holster. Jack
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Im late to the fray but i say Wilson Ultralight Carry for the win! ;D
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z261/thewayofthegun1/zydno7.jpg)
or.....
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z261/thewayofthegun1/2b830526.jpg)
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z261/thewayofthegun1/bbf11458.jpg)
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z261/thewayofthegun1/47af6369.jpg)
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thewayofthegun1, Very Nice. :D and great pics, you are right up there with Richard & Corey. ;D
John
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thewayofthegun1. Definitely something to bring out the Drool Squad; excellent. Thanks.
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One would be hard pressed to find a more beautiful example of barrel crowning than is shown in that last photograph!
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I lean toward Wilson.
I find the 25LPI checkering on the NightHawk to be too aggressive (without gloves) and prefer the Wilson 30LPI.
Same goes for the stock T3 grips too aggressive.
I'd rate the triggers 99 Wilson, 98 NH, 96 Ed Brown, 95 Les Baer--
( i have fired several of all 4 manufactures)
The thing i like about Wilson besides the warranty is the flexibility of ordering pretty much exactly what you want in terms of bells and whistles and their customer service.
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I ended up going with a Nighthawk T3. It has a Hard Chrome Slide, 3 1/2 Trigger pull, Diamond Black Frame.
Nighthawk still handfits all of it's parts on the 1911's some other companies CNC thier pieces to extremely tight tolerances but do not hand fit all the pieces. They do this for speed. Still makes an excellant gun, I just prefer the hand fitted matched pieces. Nighthawk will also build the gun anyway you wish and thier customer service is rated #1. (Knife is Compliments of NRA)
(http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae107/Vonallen/Allen/002-1.jpg)
Chief
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Chief. Once again, a very nice T3. Always good to see. :)
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Thanks, I got to take the T3 out to the range the other Day, ran great, now my dilemma is which .45 to carry.
The Talon II has lightweight frame and bobtail, T3 has shorter grip and an almost indestructable finish... Plus it is downright "purdy" ;D . I like the lightweight framed Talon for carrying, but when firing at the range a steel frame would be better after about 50 rounds. Usually I end up heading for the Full sized Stainless Predator for busting alot of steels. (It is also my wifes favorite .45 to fire at the range,
her favorite 9mm is my faithful Sig 228 )
Chief
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Chief, it is always great fun viewing your 1911 photos. ;D 8) Tom
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Chief, ya done good! Again
You make a good spokesman for NightHawk as well.
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Chief
Very nice indeed! :D