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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh Range Reports => Topic started by: walt_l on May 05, 2010, 04:59:43 PM

Title: Virgin shoot!
Post by: walt_l on May 05, 2010, 04:59:43 PM
Well today was the day. I got my R9 last Saturday and took it out today. I've read a bit here but didn't see what diet it liked but for PD I thought Rangers were a good choice.

Loaded both Magazines and set my silhouette target at 15 yards.

Took aim and hit in the thoracic cavity first shot. Shots seemed a bit lower than POA but I still took the sucker down!

I decided a head shot was in order and took him down there too!

It is quite a kick but manageable.

The web of my hand between my thumb and forefinger took a beating but like I said it was manageable.

Next home to clean. I had already dripped my fuse holder and cut my q-tip so I was GTG.

I know it's got to get easier but for the most part It went well. Once I juggled things using a pencil to hold the slide back, the q-tip dropped the pin right out and the slide slid off.

Removing the rid and spring by hand was a piece of cake but when I tried to compress the spring to re-install I snapped the legs off the fuse puller but that made it just right.

I was kind of interested in the rifling. It was much wider than ANY I have ever seen.

I pulled a bore snake through twice and the groves still seemed to be dirty.

I gave it a shot of foaming bore cleaner, let it sit and then gave it another go with the bore snake. It still looked funny to me but I'm sure it's clean.

All in all a GREAT day at the range.

Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on May 05, 2010, 05:50:17 PM
walt.  Excellent on your great day at the range.  Glad everything went well.  Continue to enjoy the little wonder.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: sslater on May 05, 2010, 10:48:35 PM
walt_l,
Welcome to the forum and glad to read that you had fun at the range!

Many of us have commented that the barrel grooves seem to stay 'dirty' after cleaning.  It just seems to be related to how the rifling is machined into the bore.  Doesn't seem to hurt anything except my anal need to get things squeaky - clean!   :P

Here's how I handle re-installation of the recoil spring:
For compressing the recoil spring. I've turned to a cheap piece of plastic ruler.  The kind you find in a kindergartner's drawing set.  Just trim the width until it's narrow enough to fit inside the slide, then saw a slot in the middle of what's left.  Slot width equals the diameter of the recoil rod.  You can make three tools from one six inch ruler.  
When you go to install the recoil assembly and cup, stand it on end press down with your thumb until you can slide the tool between the end of the rod and the cup.  Position the recoil assembly between the slide and the barrel lug, pull the tool out, and you're done.

Hope this helps,
Steve
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Richard S on May 06, 2010, 07:41:18 AM
Good report, Walt. Thank you and welcome to the Forum!
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: theirishguard on May 06, 2010, 12:36:46 PM
Walt, welcome to the forum, enjoy it here. It sounds like you had a good day with the pup, carry it every day and feel secure.  Tom
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: RickP on May 06, 2010, 06:35:24 PM
Walt, Welcome and thanks for the report. To install the recoil assembly I use both thumbs and forefingers to compress the assembly and then slip it in. Several misfires at first, but now it's easy.

Rick
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Brenden on May 07, 2010, 12:14:55 AM
walt_l

Welcome to the forum,and thanks for the great Pup report!!!
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: sdlsaginaw on May 14, 2010, 02:25:57 PM
For getting the pin in and out, I can't recommend highly enough the method shown in the manual.  It really works.

Upside down in left hand, press slide back with right hand, tighten grip of left hand to hold in place.  Slight adjustment to tightness of left hand gives enough movement for pin alignment.

The only issue, when reassembling, is to watch your left index finger after the pin is back in and you release your grip.    :o
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on May 15, 2010, 10:00:52 PM
I do agree with this.  It does work.  Master the grip and that's the key.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: yankee2500 on May 19, 2010, 10:12:56 PM
I also agree it works, but anyone with arthritis or limited grip strength in there hand or fingers may not be able to do it. Having worked in the building trade for forty plus years I have a pretty good grip, so it works for me.

John
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: sdlsaginaw on May 20, 2010, 08:57:13 PM
I'll have to give you the arthritis part, ok.  But...

I'm a programmer.  If they're comfortable claiming weaker hands than an over-the-hill computer geek like myself, well...  ;)  ;D  ;D

[yes, I'm KIDDING]  :)
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: whkrog on July 13, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
RE: Virgin Shoot
I may be mistaken, but  in all countries and cultures with which I am familar, the shooting of virgins is relatively unknown and usually prohibited, because of the resultant diminution of an important local resource.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: AmmoToad on July 13, 2010, 08:41:33 PM
Welcome Walt...you'll enjoy it here.  Great advice and always a good time.  Glad you enjoyed your first outing.  
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: tracker on July 13, 2010, 08:41:44 PM

They disappear fast enough on their own.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: whkrog on July 14, 2010, 12:49:46 AM
Tracker:
This is true, but perhaps it's best to allow this to happen in accordance with 'natural processes', which in this regard seldom involve firearms in any helpful or moral way.
:)
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: yankee2500 on July 14, 2010, 02:05:00 AM
Gotta love that thread drift. ;D

John
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: tracker on July 14, 2010, 10:52:09 PM
Years ago in more challenging times I did my best to thin out the herd.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: whkrog on July 15, 2010, 12:10:52 AM
I'm really sorry I sorta started this thread deflection, but it was such a softball, it was irresistable. My apologies to all if any offense was taken, but it appears that some humor was shared. :)
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: tracker on July 15, 2010, 12:20:42 PM

This was a venial thread drift that was quite humorous and I don't think anyone has taken offense to it. The initial post was by a new member who was giving us a report on his first outing and appeared to be just letting us share in his pride.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: whkrog on July 15, 2010, 04:25:33 PM
Short anecdote to share, about 'pride' (it's fun): a few weeks ago at my usual indoor range, I was asked by one of the staff there if they could check out the pistol (the Cogan-plated and ported Rohrbaugh R9s) I was shooting. So, gladly I handed it over for admiration...
Another of the staff members came over ( he's a Glock and 1911 guy) and asked, 'what's that pistol?'
The answer from the first: "A Rohrbaugh. The best-built pistol in the world."
Nothing else need be said. :)
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: yankee2500 on July 15, 2010, 06:00:28 PM
Heres one in the other direction.  I called a so called gun plating and custom shop here in NC, I was inquiring about porting and as expected the guy on the other end ask what make is the gun, I responded a Rohrbaugh, he said a what, I replied again a Rohrbaugh, and spelled it out. He then replied OH one of those German made guns, I had no more questions for him after that. :o

I guess he was partially right, they are German. ;D

John
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: whkrog on July 15, 2010, 08:53:14 PM
Hah! Very good. Except, why would anyone call anyone other than Bob Cogan?
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 15, 2010, 08:58:18 PM
Well, one reason I have is that Robar coats the insides.  I really wish that Cogan did that, but called and he said they were not equipped to handle the internals.  I'm leaning toward Robar for that reason.    
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Richard S on July 15, 2010, 10:19:13 PM
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Short anecdote to share, about 'pride' (it's fun): a few weeks ago at my usual indoor range, I was asked by one of the staff there if they could check out the pistol (the Cogan-plated and ported Rohrbaugh R9s) I was shooting. So, gladly I handed it over for admiration...
Another of the staff members came over ( he's a Glock and 1911 guy) and asked, 'what's that pistol?'
The answer from the first: "A Rohrbaugh. The best-built pistol in the world."
Nothing else need be said. :)

Great story, Bill.

I've developed what I call my "Rohrbaugh Response."

Whenever I'm asked, "What pistol is that?," or some such question from one of the few people who ever get to see my R9, I just say, "It's a Rohrbaugh R9." Almost inevitably, the person then asks, "What?" To which I reply, "Surely you've heard about the smallest and lightest pistol ever made for the 9mm Parabellum."  

Then, depending on their attitude and whether I deem them to be worthy, I may or may not take the trouble to enlighten them.   8)
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: yankee2500 on July 15, 2010, 10:31:33 PM
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Hah! Very good. Except, why would anyone call anyone other than Bob Cogan?

Well one reason is it was before I had heard of Bob Cogan or seen any of there work, and the other was because it was within driving distance, which would be a big plus to me. I could see the shop, meet the people dong the work, not have to ship my pup. ;D

John
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 15, 2010, 10:45:17 PM
John.  Would Robar doing the internals have anything to do with your decision now?  I'm still trying to decide.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: yankee2500 on July 16, 2010, 12:20:57 AM
   I like the fact that every part than can be coated is coated, and NP3 has a high lubricity and low friction co-efficient, reducing wear on all the parts. Also there coating is uniform and only two ten thousandths of one inch thick. I am very pleased with the NP3s performance so far.

John
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 16, 2010, 06:19:45 AM
Now that's why I'm leaning toward Robar.  I like those thoughts of everything coated.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Reinz on July 16, 2010, 04:17:50 PM
I have two carry guns NP3'd and highly reccomend it.

Could not be more pleased.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Reinz on July 16, 2010, 04:20:28 PM
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I've developed what I call my "Rohrbaugh Response."

Whenever I'm asked, "What pistol is that?," or some such question from one of the few people who ever get to see my R9, I just say, "It's a Rohrbaugh R9." Almost inevitably, the person then asks, "What?" To which I reply, "Surely you've heard about the smallest and lightest pistol ever made for the 9mm Parabellum."  

Then, depending on their attitude and whether I deem them to be worthy, I may or may not take the trouble to enlighten them.   8)


+++++++

I love it!

Richard that is a great way to introduce the R9 and sift through the wheat!

Short, simple and to the point, and see where it leads.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 16, 2010, 05:41:08 PM
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I have two carry guns NP3'd and highly reccomend it.

Could not be more pleased.

Yep!  I'm sure leaning in this direction, for sure!    :)
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Reinz on July 16, 2010, 05:59:48 PM
I've got some parts at Robar now being treated for a project.
They are at about 7-8 weeks out.

Dive in, the water's warm. :)
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 16, 2010, 06:15:32 PM
Not in any hurry, at the moment!    :)
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Reinz on July 16, 2010, 06:18:46 PM
I understand, that's why I was letting you know about the lead time.
When it comes to your baby, waiting can be very very hard. :'(
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 16, 2010, 06:21:37 PM
Really not.  I do know about the lead time.  This will be the NIB one that will be getting done.    ;D
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Reinz on July 16, 2010, 06:48:28 PM
Rock! ;D
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 16, 2010, 06:50:28 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: ccoorreeyy on July 16, 2010, 06:59:11 PM
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Really not.  I do know about the lead time.  This will be the NIB one that's will be getting done.    ;D

If it were me I would shoot that gun at least 125 rounds so that any "normal" frame wear that happens as the gun breaks in will already be done and that metal will be gone before you coat it.  That way the coating will not get nucked during the break in if you have it coated before you shoot it.  
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: tracker on July 16, 2010, 07:01:47 PM

Great idea.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 16, 2010, 07:04:04 PM
What about if you buy a new Robar.  That's not fired that way.  Not sure I agree with that.  Just me.  I want it coated before I fire it, so it doesn't wear.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: tracker on July 16, 2010, 07:10:46 PM

Why don't you ask Robar which way is better or if it matters?
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 16, 2010, 07:27:07 PM
I want it just as if I were buying a new Robar.  The Robar has only been factory fired, so that's the way I'll go.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Reinz on July 16, 2010, 07:34:41 PM
ccoorreeyy and KJ both have excellant points.

Keep in mind that NP3 is soo incredibly hard that it basically doesn't wear in human terms.

The self lubricity also helps prevent the wear as well.


You can't go wrong either way.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 16, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
Yep!  I want it new as it is now.  So there ya go.    ;)  
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: Reinz on July 16, 2010, 07:46:31 PM
KJ - in case you did not know, Robar now offers NP3 Plus!

It is harder  than regular NP3 and I do not recall if there is any increase in lubricity, not that it needs more.

They reccomend it for people that live on the coast or in an extra humind environment.

The cost is about 30% more.


This is what I am  using on my latest project.


Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 16, 2010, 07:48:23 PM
I did know that and is what I would get.  Found out about the plus when it first came out.  Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: ccoorreeyy on July 17, 2010, 10:32:40 PM
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What about if you buy a new Robar.  That's not fired that way.  Not sure I agree with that.  Just me.  [size=13]I want it coated before I fire it, so it doesn't wear[/size].

I bet if you get someone to post picturs of the frame rails of their factory Robar coated gun after 100 rounds or so you would change your mind.  I have not seen one but i'm almost positive it WILL wear.  I would have to be proven wrong on that before I would belive otherwise.  I've inspected no less than 10 used R9 rails and have yet to find one that does not have atleast some wear.
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: ccoorreeyy on July 17, 2010, 10:55:52 PM
PS.  kytrains, did you get the email I sent you?
corey
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 17, 2010, 10:57:25 PM
All in what you want, Corey, and I want a NEW ROBAR!  YES!    ;D
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 17, 2010, 11:00:13 PM
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PS.  kytrains, did you get the email I sent you?
corey

I'll go check it now!  Check the "j" again.    ;D

Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: ccoorreeyy on July 17, 2010, 11:01:05 PM
Can't blame you, I like um also.  As soon as I buy up all the old blue grip Farmingdales i'm gonna get me one too.   ;D
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: ccoorreeyy on July 17, 2010, 11:02:59 PM
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I'll go check it now!  Check the "j" again.    ;D



wondered if you would catch that...  :D
Title: Re: Virgin shoot!
Post by: kjtrains on July 17, 2010, 11:06:54 PM
Corey. Got it and sent you a reply.  Thanks for the email. I'm right on top of that "j".    ;D