The Rohrbaugh Forum
Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: RJ HEDLEY on February 10, 2005, 09:02:06 PM
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Seecamp now has a web site !!
Check it out http://seecamp.com/
This should be a help for those that complain about not being able to reach him...
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RJ, Thanks for Larry's web site. I don't know how you have time to keep up with every thing and still make holsters!!!?? Tom
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A long awaited site for Seecampers.. ;D
Thanks for the info RJ..
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Glad to see the word's getting out about the Seecamp site. It's been a labor of love putting it up (I'm the webmaster) and it's been amazing to see how much goodwill Larry has generated among gun enthusiasts over the years. But then, within a week of getting my LWS32, I was volunteering to put up the site! There's just something about these guns, and about the fine crafting and meticulous workmanship, that really inspires people.
If you haven't been to the site, by all means, "Come on down!"
http://seecamp.com
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Shooter56, Nice site, great job!! Its been too long of a wait. Larry got with the program at last. Tom
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Shooter56,
Welcome to the forum. Nice website. Yes, I know the feeling. I started this forum before I even had my R-9 in my hands...
Interestingly, Seecamp played a big factor in the development of the R-9. Karl was working on a .380 until Seecamp came out with their .380. It was then Karl decided he needed to "up the ante" to 9mm if he wasn't going to be replowing old ground.
I thinke Seecamps and Rohrbaughs draw the same type of crowd...so feel free to hang out with us! ;D
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Thanks for the kind welcome, Duayne. I'm feeling right at home already.
I've only read about the Rohrbaugh since I live here in Massachusetts where the only way you actually see about half the manufacturers' gun lines is to go to a gun show in NH. But there was a pretty impressive write-up in one of the handgun magazines about the Rohrbaugh a few months ago as I recall. Looks like the same kind of meticulous craftsmanship that Seecamp has come to be known for.
Thanks again for the welcome. Got a feeling I'll be hanging out here quite a bit!
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Nothing against the Seecamps, I have two. In fact I bought my .25 ACP Seecamp about 20 years ago before anyone knew what they were and now have the .32 ACP version as well. HOWEVER, I must mention that the Seecamp is nowhere NEAR the quality of gun that a Rohrbaugh is. You are comparing a gun made entirely of castings with plastic grips to a gun machined from billet forgings and carbon fiber grips. With the increase in carbon fiber prices the grips on my Rohrbaugh cost more than my .25 Seecamp did and today a Rohrbaugh is 2 or 3 times the price of a Seecamp. The quality of materials used in a Rohrbaugh is the best of any firearm made in the U.S., at any price, and can only be compared to some of the best guns of some European manufacturers.
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Jeff, The Seecamp .380 msrp is $850. I agree that the quality of the Rohrbaugh is super. I'm not sure all of the Euro guns are that great on quality ie: Beretta M9, which is having all kinds of problems in Iraq. Tom
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I own three of them, so it would be fair to say that I like them.
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The Euro guns that I was referring to would be along the lines of the Korth auto and revolver, the SIG P210, the Walther PP and PPK, the Manhurin revolver, some guns from Suhl Arsenal, Holland and Holland, Merkel, and Perazzi. As far as I know, nothing from Beretta would even make the list, possibly one of the shotguns, but I am not even sure about that. I am not sure that some of the guns that I mentioned are not up to the quality of a Rohrbaugh, it may be finish and 'imbellishments' on some of the guns I mentioned. The Rohrbaugh could be compared to the quality of Colt Pythons of 40 years ago. It is hard to find a gun using as high quality materials as a Rohrbaugh anywhere in the world today without going to a full off custom.
I paid $99 for my .25 ACP Seecamp in 1984 and $350 for my .32. I like them, but I sure wouldn't give $850 for a cast, CNC'd, .380 when I could have a 9mm Rohrbaugh for $100 more.
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Hi Jeff:
I intend to buy a fourth Seecamp--the 380.
I understand your position and to a certain extent, I agree with it. But I look at guns as tools. I'm not a rich man, but I'm not starving (if you ever get to see me, you will notice that I NEVER miss a meal). I can afford a Seecamp and a Rohrbaugh.
The Seecamp is just a different tool. The 380 would fit nicely in my defensive firearm arsenal.
Yea, the Seecamp 380 is expensive but so is the Rohrbaugh. But each in their own way are excellent examples of the gun makers craft, and I have more faith in Seecamp than in Kel Tec, which I also own.
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Hi Jeff & George,, I agree with both of you. The Korth is very well made and very expensive. Also the H&H, but that's a total hand made firearm. The Rohrbaugh is very well made using high quality materials, but it is the customer service that separates the men from the boys. Seecamp is also a good firearm for what it is. I sell both and do not have problems with either. They both do their jobs and that's all one can ask for in a defensive tool. Everyone needs to determine for themselves what will be best for them! The US market is very price conscious. Tom
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RJ: Thank you for posting the link to the new Seecamp web site. I shall bring it to the attention of my little wife -- she having appropriated my LWS32 (old-ivory grips and all) as her own personal property.
Shooter 56: Welcome to the Forum, and congratulations on producing and managing the Seecamp site. It is an excellent piece of work which has long been needed.
RS
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Thanks for the kind words, RS. As you might guess, the seecamp.com site was really a labor of love for me. I'm a big fan, love my LWS32, so helping get Larry up on the Internet was a pleasure.
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Shooter56, Thanks from all the Seecamp fans out there for getting Larry what he really needed, a web site. Tom
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Very nice! It's been a long time coming..
Now all we need is a seecamp/pocket gun forum added!!!
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A new photo
(http://www.fototime.com/A41A7E3291D7078/standard.jpg)
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Wow - outstanding photo, RJ! I gather that's one of your holsters? Very nice!
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Yes. holster is mine, thanks for the comment..
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RJ, Nice holster, I wish I could use a inside the pocket holster! Tom
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Tom, Why is it you can't use a pocket holster? If you don't mind saying, that is...
......and thanks !
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I was wondering myself.... but then I figured it out -- No pockets! ;)
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.............you wear a "Kilt"?
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Duane & RJ, I am disabled and now spend most of my time in a power wheelchair. Its hard to get money, keys & etc out of a pocket sitting in a wheelchair, much less a piece. The draw is too slow. I'm thinking of a IWB cross draw, what are your thoughts? Tom
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Well... I do feel like a heel. Sorry... all in good fun.
Sounds to be like a cross-draw type setup -- much like is the preferred carry when driving in a car -- would be good.
I would think that you situation lends itself to a variety of off-body carry locations too -- depending on your set-up.
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RJ, Wearing a kilt in the regimental fashion seated in a wheelchair could get me in trouble of a different kind. I'll send you picture of that thought. Tom
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Duane, Like RJ said, wearing a kilt requires one to carry in the little purse in front. haha. Not a problem Tom
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Well, that clears that up. The only thing other that the Crossdraw that Gator mentioned, would be a rig attached to the Power Chair..
This idea was also touched on above..
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Tom:
I like your sense of style!
RS
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RS, Thanks, I just do the best that I can. Send me your e-mail address and I'll send you a funny kilt photo. Tom
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Very nice! It's been a long time coming..
Now all we need is a seecamp/pocket gun forum added!!!
Yeah Shooter 56, what would it take to get a forum up and running? That'd be great.
I love those Seecamps, they were the first high quality, small for the caliber, pocket pistols out there, one that I trust my life to every day.I have three 32's, one .380, and a .380 on the way.
Larry has always been computer savy, I don't know why it took him this long to get hooked up with his own web site, but I'm sure glad Shooter56 came along when he did.
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Thanks for the kind words. Setting up a forum is new to me, though I did look into some software for the job earlier in the week. I've got a couple more pages to get up on the site, then hopefully I can turn my attention to a possible forum, with Larry's blessing of course. I don't have the time to moderate it, and I'm guessing Larry doesn't either. That might be the only obstacle.
I'm not sure why it took so long to get a Seecamp site up. When I was shopping for my LWS32, the first thing I looked for was a company website. And when I didn't find one, that's when I contacted Larry. He was definitely ready and I think it's turned out to be a very positive move. We've had some very kind comments in the guest book and it looks like people are glad to finally have the company online. And from my perspective, putting up the site has been a pure labor of love, since I love my little LWS32 and really respect Larry's commitment to fine craftsmanship.
Again, thanks for the kind words.
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It was a nice touch to get a Thank You for signing the Guestbook from Larry.. 8)
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A friend of mine got a thank you from Larry too. That's the kind of people these Seecamp folks are. This isn't Corporate America - these are just good people making an honest living by manufacturing a quality product. I can't imagine many other manufacturers where the owner of the company sends you a thank you for signing the guestbook. And if they did, it would probably be an autoresponder or a canned note from a secretary posing as the Prez.
Larry and Sandi are just genuinely nice people and I consider myself fortunate to have crossed paths with them. But even if they were a faceless, nameless corporate entity, I'd still love this little pistol! :)
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Shooter56, They are all that. Great folks. Tom
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Guys, guys, guys!
Try the Coronado Leather concealment vest. It's all right there and you'll be stylin all the way. You can carry TWO guns, completely concealed. And you won't need to wear a skirt or carry a purse to hide everything:^) And it's wheel chair friendly...
Got to http://www.coronadoleather.com/
Calvin
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Thanks Calvin!!! I have contacted them. Tom