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Title: seecamp will they fire without Mag?
Post by: rod m1 on April 20, 2008, 08:29:46 AM: I've done some reeding and it appears that Seecamp's models don't allow you to fire with out a magazine. Am I correct on this?
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Post by: Jack Foulard on April 20, 2008, 08:32:51 AM: I believe you are correct. You check out seecamp.com and click on forums and you will have access to tons of information. Many folks from this site can be found there too.

Enjoy and welcome.
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Post by: dawkind on April 20, 2008, 09:58:47 AM: No, they don't fire without a mag....the slide will not open either. ;)
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Post by: Brenden on April 21, 2008, 04:53:19 PM: Correct-they do not fire w/o a mag..

And DO NOT try to rack while mag is out!! ;)

It can be done,but not with good results.. :o
Title: Re: seecamp will they fire without Mag?
Post by: rod m1 on April 21, 2008, 06:52:03 PM: Quote
Correct-they do not fire w/o a mag..

And DO NOT try to rack while mag is out!! ;)

It can be done,but not with good results.. :o

Then how are you suppose to clear the chambered round? Carry a empty mag with you? The more I research the seecamp auto's the more I think they are a piece of %^$#! :-[
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Post by: ccoorreeyy on April 21, 2008, 07:01:57 PM: Quote
Then how are you suppose to clear the chambered round?
My typical procedure would be pop out the mag, empty the mag, pop mag back in, empty chambered round. Takes about 3 or 4 seconds.

When your research intels holding one I think you will change your mind. They are a mighty fine pocket pistol. Nothing is perfect but Seecamp and Rohrbaugh are as good as it gets in pocket pistols IMO and quite a few others.
Corey
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Post by: Brenden on April 21, 2008, 08:24:50 PM: Seecamp and Rohrbaugh are the best pocket rockets there are to be had IMO... 8)

Seecamp is not a piece of !@#$&..

Believe me,they rule..

Brenden
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Post by: grayfeathers on April 21, 2008, 09:04:15 PM: What ever you have heard about Seecamps being % % is horse pucky. Seecamps are truly Jewels. They are in the same class as Rohrbaugh, masterpieces of form & function. Larry Seecamp is a fine gentleman as well.
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Post by: dawkind on April 21, 2008, 10:37:06 PM: There is a point when the mag is inserted into the pistol that a 'trip' is activated that allows the racking of the slide without a round able to be stripped from the mag.

This is designed into the Seecamp and taking the mag out of the pistol renders it safe even with a round in the chamber....the trigger cannot be pulled nor can the slide be operated to extract the round.

Since the pistol is toy-size, removing the magazine locked the trigger and slide, rendering it safe if it got into a childs hands or other unauthorized persons.

The Seecamps are superior pocket-pistols and have been for MANY years....
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Post by: CaptBW on April 22, 2008, 09:04:26 AM: +1 Rohrbaugh and Seecamp are the BEST!
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Post by: Richard S on April 22, 2008, 09:31:55 AM: My little wife is my raison d'être. She can't handle the recoil of the R9, so I have her carry a Seecamp. It's a jewel. But then, so is she. 8)
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Post by: Laserlips on May 30, 2008, 07:21:11 PM: Quote from: rod m1

The more I research the seecamp auto's the more I think they are a piece of %^$#! :-[[/quote

FWIW:

I would respectfully suggest you should do more research because the conclusion you have reached at this point is incorrect.

Not incorrect because I say so, but incorrect because the facts are simply to the contrary of that conclusion. Keep reading.

A good place to start would be the forum at www.seecamp.com.

Best Wishes,

Jesse

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_9658_01.jpg)
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Post by: BytorJr on May 31, 2008, 01:49:07 AM: Well, I'm going to restrain myself here.

I personally do not like the fact the magazine safety is there; but, I live with it. That in and of itself doesn't make it $##@ as you say. You can verify the chamber by looking into the gun...you can see the round. I usually have my unloaded magazine and put it in and back off about 1/4". Then, I eject any live round I have. Very rarely do I have this problem, because I clean mine every time I shoot; even though recently that hasn't been an issue. Not once on my carry ammo have I had a problem with a "dry" gun (I use EEZOX which hangs around for a while) not cycling the rounds.

Are they $@#$ as you say. Nope. Mine had some problems, but Mr. Seecamp has come through each and every time. I have had no problem since Larry tweeked mine on ANY self defense load (I don't like the setback corbon has). Let me clarify my loads: Hornady, Gold Dot, Hydrashock. I've only had RECENT trouble with the Winchester flat nose FMJ's I use for practice - my suspicion of the mag springs...I didn't have this problem a few hundred rounds ago.

I've also shot my Seecamp quite a lot. It sees 30-50 rounds per outing on average.

Are they ammo finicky? Some can be, but so are most small guns, including the R9. The 32ACP presents the rimlock problem too; which the Seecamp's solved long before Kel-Tec put their spacer in. I've never heard of a rimlock case in the LWS32.

If you're getting your info from The High Road or Firing Line, there is one guy on there who just won't give up on how bad Seecamp is - like a personal vendetta against Mr. Seecamp...just weigh that for what it's worth. Also, some people claimed they paid 800 bucks for the gun (LWS 32)..well, that's their problem. It NEVER listed for more than current list.
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Post by: RJ HEDLEY on May 31, 2008, 02:12:21 PM: '' Then how are you suppose to clear the chambered round? Carry a empty mag with you? The more I research the seecamp auto's the more I think they are a piece of %^$#!"" Embarassed

You choose the right Smiley. :-[, you should be embarassed

You claim that you researched, but haven't discovered how to clear the chamber.
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Post by: theirishguard on June 01, 2008, 02:26:03 PM: ditto RJ Tom
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Post by: Richard S on June 01, 2008, 06:29:19 PM: Seecamps, Rohrbaughs, and HK P7s have a lot in common with well-aged single-malt Scotch. They all are acquired tastes, they all have achieved "cult" status, and they all represent the finest man-made achievements of their kind. 8)
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Post by: tracker on June 01, 2008, 09:03:38 PM: Aye, aye, and hear, hear.
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Post by: Laserlips on June 01, 2008, 09:47:39 PM: FWIW:

Two out of three "ain't bad".... ;D

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_9644-1.jpg)

Best Wishes,

Jesse
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Post by: Richard S on June 02, 2008, 11:40:14 AM: Jesse:

That's an impressive hand, indeed!

Let's see, now . . . I'm going to have to borrow some collateral here (one Seecamp which was summarily requisitioned from me by "Herself"), but I'll see your two and raise you one R9 with holster by Hedley ;)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/r9at3yearswithgolddotshedleyleather.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/HKP7withKDHolster.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/Seecamp-1.jpg)
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Post by: theirishguard on June 02, 2008, 12:42:42 PM: this is a different way to play 7 card stud ;) Tom
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Post by: Laserlips on June 02, 2008, 01:05:15 PM: [quote author=Richard S
Jesse
That's an impressive hand, indeed!

Let's see, now . . . I'm going to have to borrow some collateral here (one Seecamp which was summarily requisitioned from me by "Herself," but I'll see your two and raise you one R9 with holster by Hedley ;)

Richard:

Not a bad hand you are showing there yourself...

I was in fact considering buying a Rohrbaugh recently, but opted for buying two extra "A" grade HK P7's instead. There had been a post or two on various forums concerning potential for spare parts for the P7's becoming an issue down the road so thought I'd have "me" own little supply of spare parts..

Here's the best hand I can manage at the moment.. If it's one too many (we playing 5 or 7?)discard the one of your choice..

Best Wishes,

Jesse

P.S. Truthfully I'm cheating.. Our 3rd LWS32 has "left the buidling", but will replaced by a new LWS380 in about 4 months.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_8774.jpg )

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Post by: ccoorreeyy on June 02, 2008, 01:13:48 PM: Here's my hand (for a couple more days anyway :'( ). It trumps those hands on this forum! ;D
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x275/ccaallaahhaann/frame.jpg)

But then if Brenden joins in I fold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Laserlips on June 02, 2008, 02:19:23 PM: Quote
Here's my hand (for a couple more days anyway :'( ). It trumps those hands on this forum! ;D
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x275/ccaallaahhaann/frame.jpg)

But then if Brenden joins in I fold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ccooo:

Show off...
:)

But!

There's a gentleman on the Seecampforum that personally has like a zillion Seecamps.. Don't make me ask him to come over here and put a whuppin' on you Rohrbaugh guys.... ;)

Just kiddin' a course.

Nice little batch of Rohrbaughs you have there.

Best Wishes,

Jesse

P.S. Gotcha' one of these?

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_9456_01.jpg)
Title: Re: seecamp will they fire without Mag?
Post by: Richard S on June 02, 2008, 03:50:25 PM: Yessir, and its fixed up so fancy like that we rents it out as a weddin' chapel now and agin. ;)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/OuthouseWeddingChapel.jpg)
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Post by: Laserlips on June 02, 2008, 04:07:06 PM: Quote
Yessir, and its fixed up so fancy like that we rents it out as a weddin' chapel now and agin. ;)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/OuthouseWeddingChapel.jpg)

Whoa Nellie!

What a great idea... I can just see it now, portable weddin' chapels all over the place.... I'm on it!

Thanks!

Jesse
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Post by: dawkind on June 02, 2008, 04:14:57 PM: You folks have great taste....... 8)

(http://www.fototime.com/30479606A34650B/standard.jpg)
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Post by: Brenden on June 02, 2008, 07:48:01 PM: :)

I only have 3 pups left!! :( So going to have to line em up again..

And the Seecamps need a group pic soon

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/glockme/100_3248.jpg)
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Post by: Richard S on June 03, 2008, 09:53:15 PM: Quote
You folks have great taste....... 8)

(http://www.fototime.com/30479606A34650B/standard.jpg)

Fantastic trio of pistols, and as "Crocadile Dundee" would say, ". . . Now that's a knife"! 8)
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Post by: P7Enigma on June 28, 2008, 12:30:17 AM: Go fish....

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/007ENIGMA/IMG_0815.jpg)

...and there is still more in the "shoe" ;D
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Post by: Richard S on June 29, 2008, 08:42:23 AM: Quote
Go fish....

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/007ENIGMA/IMG_0815.jpg)

...and there is still more in the "shoe" ;D

I fold! :o
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Post by: henryk on June 29, 2008, 11:39:37 AM: Quote
Go fish....

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/007ENIGMA/IMG_0815.jpg)

...and there is still more in the "shoe" ;D

Nice collection. :)
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Post by: theirishguard on June 29, 2008, 12:21:56 PM: too many R7s ;)Tom
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Post by: henryk on August 21, 2008, 11:19:49 AM: Quote

Then how are you suppose to clear the chambered round? Carry a empty mag with you? The more I research the seecamp auto's the more I think they are a piece of %^$#! :-[

LOL Pardon me for laughing. I never heard anyone call Seecamp a piece of crap before. :)
Title: Re: seecamp will they fire without Mag?
Post by: Bobs_classic on February 21, 2009, 10:53:02 PM: I have to agree strongly with henryk,I would bet my life on my seecamp and I'm sure theres many others that would do the same 8)