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Title: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: kjtrains on January 17, 2011, 02:41:59 PM
Just one day ahead of the SHOT Show.  The newest raging judge.  Very heavy at 67 ozs. unloaded and 6 1/2 in. barrel.

http://gunmart.blogspot.com/2011/01/taurus-raging-judge.html
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: ccoorreeyy on January 17, 2011, 05:02:01 PM
Cant see that being a big seller.
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: tracker on January 17, 2011, 05:41:51 PM

It doesn't seem that they would be jumping off the shelves. I wonder about the market research that went into that one. Maybe they have sold too many Judges and are a bit overconfident.
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: hedrok on January 17, 2011, 05:48:27 PM
They knew that Corey needed a back-up to carry if his R9 isn't enough.









sorry, Corey...I couldn't resist.
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: Richard S on January 17, 2011, 06:27:47 PM
That 28 GA. shell has been hanging around since the early part of the 20th century. Small-bore skeet is about the only thing which has kept it in production. Although some people use the 28 GA. for upland game hunting, I personally would not want to do so. Without intending to offend anyone, I consider anything under 20 GA. to be potentially a "cripple gun" in the field. Perhaps this "Raging Judge" thing will add a little more longevity to the load.  
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: Reinz on January 17, 2011, 06:29:27 PM
I guess marketing is at the bottom of the barrel and is aiming at the hardcore competition crowd now.
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: tracker on January 17, 2011, 10:25:05 PM

Sometimes, it is a good thing to be under powered.






http://articles.cnn.com/2006-02-12/politics/cheney_1_katharine-armstrong-birdshot-saturday-afternoon-armstrong-ranch?_s=PM:POLITICS
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: Richard S on January 18, 2011, 06:34:01 AM
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Sometimes, it is a good thing to be under powered.

http://articles.cnn.com/2006-02-12/politics/cheney_1_katharine-armstrong-birdshot-saturday-afternoon-armstrong-ranch?_s=PM:POLITICS

Touché.  (That was truly one of those shots "heard 'round the world."   ;) )
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: kjtrains on January 18, 2011, 11:44:46 AM
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It doesn't seem that they would be jumping off the shelves. I wonder about the market research that went into that one. Maybe they have sold too many Judges and are a bit overconfident.

You have to look at the big picture.  Taurus is riding a wave, and wants to keep it going.  Will the 28 ga. do it?  I dunno.   Time will tell.    :)  
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: yankee2500 on January 18, 2011, 11:47:07 AM
Well S&W wants to cash in on the wave too.

Smith & Wesson's new six-shot Governor revolver fires 45 Colt, 45 ACP, and 410 shotshell ammunition. 28 oz. with a Scandium frame.

(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/yankee2500/DSC02695.jpg)
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: kjtrains on January 18, 2011, 11:53:54 AM
Six shots and added .45 ACP.  Now that's innovaton and it's a SMITH & WESSON!    :)  
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: yankee2500 on January 18, 2011, 12:12:19 PM
And it will probably carry a Scandium price tag of about $900 + ;D

John
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: kjtrains on January 18, 2011, 12:28:33 PM
True!  And it'll still sell.  I want one already.    ;D  But will I get one?  Nooooo!    :D
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: DDGator on January 19, 2011, 11:20:38 AM
The 28 Gauge has monster charge holes... What caliber would that convert to?

Also, Taurus has a way of making a lot of prototypes that never actually make production.  We will see.
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: kjtrains on January 19, 2011, 11:27:58 AM
The .28 guage would convert to a .55 caliber.
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: ccoorreeyy on January 19, 2011, 11:54:55 AM
I have not looked into this but I wonder how this gun will be a legal.  At 55 cal it is too big to be a legal (for US) centerfire and with a short barrel I don't see how is not a short barrel shotgun.  Does anybody know if the barrel is rifled?   I really don't know why I even care?
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: kjtrains on January 19, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
I have read that it is legal and trying to find that answer where I read it, as I knew this would be asked.  So will post when I find it.  It does have something to do with the twist that makes it legal.
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: ccoorreeyy on January 24, 2011, 05:55:30 PM
Looks like I was right.  BATF has ruled it a sbs.  >:(

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/01/25/big-gun-short-lived-taurus-28-gauge-revolver/
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: yankee2500 on January 24, 2011, 06:48:31 PM
That's what happens when you rush the introduction of a product and don't do you homework first.  :o No big loss from my prospective.

John
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: Richard S on January 24, 2011, 06:53:39 PM
Considering that development, one has to wonder how they got that prototype through Customs. I would expect that all of this is going to reflect adversely on someone's "efficiency report" at Taurus.
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: tracker on January 24, 2011, 06:53:53 PM
Wouldn't you think they would ask first? But, like some one said you ask three BATF Agents and there are three different answers, but still......
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: ccoorreeyy on January 24, 2011, 07:27:58 PM
They can still sell them to many places that don't have our (USA) B.S. laws restricting our freedoms.  
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: kjtrains on January 24, 2011, 07:31:00 PM
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Looks like I was right.  BATF has ruled it a sbs.  >:(

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/01/25/big-gun-short-lived-taurus-28-gauge-revolver/

Corey.  I stand corrected.  No wonder I couldn't find where I read it was legal; not there any more.    :)
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: Richard S on January 27, 2011, 02:46:35 PM
GunsAmerica is now reporting that BATFE has cleared the thing for production. This is from their e-mail today, reprinted in greater detail under the SHOT Show thread in The Water Cooler -- General Discussions section:

[size=10]PSS: The Taurus 28 gauge pistol drama continues. We have lit the article back up as it appears BATFE has now decided to allow them to make the revolver. [/size]

Has Vegas announced any odds on the final outcome of this drama?    ;)
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: ccoorreeyy on January 27, 2011, 02:48:56 PM
Haha, who knows.  If they make it here I would love to hold one.   ;D
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: tracker on January 27, 2011, 03:48:49 PM

Other than northern Mexico I can't see the market for this one but one never knows.
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: kjtrains on January 27, 2011, 04:02:43 PM
There's always me!  Nooooo.........not really!    ;D
Title: Re: NEW TAURUS 28 GA. RAGING JUDGE
Post by: DDGator on January 27, 2011, 04:04:30 PM
It will still be months/years until you can get your hands on one is my guess...