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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh Accessories => Topic started by: Reinz on March 28, 2011, 07:09:32 PM

Title: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Reinz on March 28, 2011, 07:09:32 PM
I have a question for Daily Carriers of the R9.

While I do own at least 4 of Johns mag extensions, only 1 or 2 installed, I have yet to practice with them.
And I DO KNOW how much better control they offer.
But at the same time, I have no trouble as it is.

I am a believer in "Train with what and how you carry".

Trying to be a much as a minimalist as posible, I just can't bring myself to carrying the extended mags.  I want the best concealment possible.

So here's the question - Who actually carries the extended mags?
And
Do you have one/it in the gun?

And/Or just use it as a spare?

Also, how are your carrying? - pocket; front or back, or belt holster.

I fiqure as many of these that John sells, people must be using them daily.

I want to have an open mind, I do respect the members here and their opinions.

Thanks
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: tracker on March 28, 2011, 07:21:16 PM

Starting with Bryce's mag extensions and continuing with John's  I carry them in the right front pocket with a spare mag in the left. I always practice with and carry the hooked version in the gun's magazine but have the flat one in the spare mag. I consider these mag extensions essential in the R9 because of the greatly improved grip control.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Reinz on March 28, 2011, 07:25:48 PM
Tracker -  thank you.

You do not find that extension causes any printing?

That is my fear, since the Butt of any gun is usually the problem in printing.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: tracker on March 28, 2011, 07:30:43 PM

If it does print I feel the advantages of enhanced tactile control far outweigh that consideration. My opinion is that the print issue is only a concern to the carrier because nobody pays much attention to other people on a daily basis, much less what is in their pocket.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Reinz on March 28, 2011, 07:33:55 PM
Great point!

Thanks
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Z on March 28, 2011, 08:26:47 PM
I have five straight extensions.

I always practice with the extension on all the mags I use.

I always carry what I practice with. I carry in the front pocket with the straight mag. I have found the extension does not print any more than a gun without an extension. My spare mag has an extension as well. It comes down to the right pocket holster for you. I have selected two custom Meco holsters that I cannot live without.

I figure there is no disadvantage to carrying with the extension! You get extra grip and control without extra printing. It's a win win situation. ;D
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Reinz on March 28, 2011, 09:18:23 PM
Thanks Wolverine, I will take that info to heart.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: tracker on March 28, 2011, 09:37:25 PM
I wish I could find the post but MrsFosforos, who hasn't been here lately, made some excellent detailed observations regarding the advantages of a mag extension. Maybe some forum sleuth can locate it because it is worth another look.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: yankee2500 on March 28, 2011, 09:39:14 PM
I carry with a hooked extension, right front pocket, in one of a couple of different Ron Graham holsters or on occasion in my Rafter S OWB. Any type of printing done by an extension would look more like something other than a gun.
   In a world of I pods, pocket GPS and cell phones and all the other gadgetry people carry in there pockets today, one would need to be extremely observant to know you had a gun in your pocket. ;D
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: tracker on March 28, 2011, 09:41:11 PM

And if they were that observant you would probably be toast anyway.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Reinz on March 28, 2011, 10:59:06 PM
Quote
I . Any type of printing done by an extension would look more like something other than a gun.
    ;D


That's what I was hoping.


Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Richard S on March 29, 2011, 06:50:47 AM
Quote
I wish I could find the post but MrsFosforos, who hasn't been here lately, made some excellent detailed observations regarding the advantages of a mag extension. Maybe some forum sleuth can locate it because it is worth another look.

Tracker:

Is this the post you had in mind?

http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=R9S;action=display;num=1255206760;start=25#25
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: tracker on March 29, 2011, 09:20:45 AM

That's the one. Thank you, Richard.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Reinz on March 29, 2011, 03:19:25 PM
Thanks Richard and Tracker.

That was really insightful for a Novice shooter (at the time).
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: TBI on March 29, 2011, 09:54:25 PM
I carry my R9S IWB with the hooked extension. It only imprints into my gut.  You can't even see it with a T-Shirt on.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Z on March 29, 2011, 10:15:06 PM
I unfortunately am not comfortable carrying IWB.

I am all pocket carry here! :)
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: kjtrains on March 29, 2011, 10:20:13 PM
Same here.  Except I do have a cross draw for the Seecamp for extended trips in the car.    :)
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Z on March 29, 2011, 10:32:37 PM
I have never tried a cross draw before.

 What has been your experience?
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: kjtrains on March 29, 2011, 10:33:43 PM
Works really good in the car.  I can't get mine out of the pocket sitting down.  This works.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Z on March 29, 2011, 10:37:45 PM
I have thought of that. It would be difficult.

Now I have a solution. Thanks Ken. :)
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: kjtrains on March 29, 2011, 10:39:27 PM
You're welcome!    :)
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Z on March 29, 2011, 10:42:04 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: kjtrains on March 29, 2011, 10:42:56 PM
I thought the same thing!    ;D
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Z on March 29, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
Oh and by the way, no hook. Ist all straight for me.
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Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: kjtrains on March 29, 2011, 10:47:26 PM
I do like the hooked.    :)
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Z on March 29, 2011, 10:51:44 PM
I thought I would to. The straight just seems to work better for me.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: kjtrains on March 29, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
It's all in what you want and like.  That works.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Z on March 29, 2011, 10:57:05 PM
True

You need to try both!
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: kjtrains on March 29, 2011, 10:57:58 PM
Not for me.  I like the hooked looks!
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: flintsghost on April 11, 2011, 03:49:56 PM
I actually tried an extension similar to the straight on a Kahr PM9, that was made by Pearce.  It was made of plastic and it worked OK, but I didn't feel that it did that much for me.  Part of that is probably because I'm just used to using pistols as they come out of the box.   I also started as a Bullseye shooter shooting .45ACP back in the mid 60's fresh out of High School and competed in both Hardball and Centerfire phases of the National Match courses on a regular basis.  I was taught then to grip a 1911 with the 2nd and 3rd fingers, and let my pinky just relax and my thumb either relaxed or resting on the thumb safety.   So it's very common for me to grip any handgun with just two fingers of my main grip hand.  Since I taught at a State LE academy for some years I tend to force my grip hand into my support hand straight and overlap my thumb almost like a golfer.  Then the hands push/pull together and it gives pretty good control.   A small grip like the Kahr and the Rohrbaugh are a challenge but not unmanagable.    

I like the pistols because they are so small and when I think of giving up something in size to get a better grip then I start wondering if I should be carrying my Colt Defender instead.  But that is just me and doesn't apply to anyone else other than as "food for thought."

As with many things about shooting,  if one thinks they help, then they probably do.
Title: Re: To HOOK or NOT ?
Post by: Reinz on April 20, 2011, 01:15:43 AM
I see your point Flintsghost.
I guess that is why I never went with an extension for the R9.

I tried a hook on the mag for a Detonics Combat Master back in the day, and it just didn't do it for me.

I reckon that just stayed with me.