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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh Accessories => Topic started by: Clivus on May 11, 2011, 09:30:15 PM
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Hi, new owner/member today.
I'm looking at getting a front and a back pocket holster from Meco. However, I'm confused about back pocket draw. The holsters are made to draw with your hand supinated I.e. Palm forward. It seems more natural to me to draw with my hand pronated I.e. Palm backward. Then you could push the anti-print flat panel with your thumb to draw the pistol. Also, the palm of your hand wouldn't have to go in between the flat panel and the gun.
I hope I'm explaining that well enough, but it seems like I should order a right handed rear pocket holster if I'm left handed. Any insight on why they are set up the way they are? I'm sure I'm missing something.
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Welcome, Clivus and thanks for your thoughts. You explained your preference quite well. The only part that I see is missing is that the body is used as a resistance pressure point in a supinated draw. This works the same in the front pocket as far as using the body to press against but to each his own.
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Welcome to the forum Civus!
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what Tracker said.
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Clivus. Welcome to the Forum and what tracker said. I will add, I have a back pocket holster, but use it in the front pocket; just never did like having a gun in the back pocket and once again, what tracker said; to each his own.
I know this doesn't answer your question, however, Robert of Meco Holsters can give you the answer. Again, welcome and enjoy the Forum.
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Ok as long as it's a preference and not "you're an idiot for doing it that way" :D
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Not at all.
If you are more comfortable with positioning your hand that way, then, that is "your style".
Go for it.
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Clivus:
Welcome to the Forum.
If you prefer a pronated draw from the back pocket and are right handed, just order a "left-handed" back-pocket holster -- or vice versa if you are a "lefty." When it comes to carrying and drawing a handgun, each person has to determine what works for him or her and go with it. As for what the holster is called, "A rose by any other name . . . ", etc., etc.
Good luck!
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Thanks guys. This is a great forum about a great little gun. After carrying around the past couple of days in a cheap blackhawk, I think I do need the traditional draw style (supinated) so I can lift my shirt tail or unbutton the pocket on my cargo shorts. I think I'm ready to order. Should I call or just order on the website?
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Clivus. Either way. Robert is great to talk to and could answer any questions you may have if you decide to call.
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Thanks guys. This is a great forum about a great little gun. After carrying around the past couple of days in a cheap blackhawk, I think I do need the traditional draw style (supinated) so I can lift my shirt tail or unbutton the pocket on my cargo shorts. I think I'm ready to order. Should I call or just order on the website?
Either a call or a website order would do -- or both. Call to establish the contact and discuss the holster you want. Then confirm and pay on line or by check with cover letter.
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Welcome and enjoy the ride and choice of holsters. I like front pocket holsters. Tom
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My only comment about a palm out draw is that there is a much better likelyhood that you will sweep your own body with the muzzle when drawn. That is not a good idea IMO and goes against what my dad told me, "Never point a gun at something your don't want shot". In a heated moment with adrenaline going trying to get it out fast, you don't want to be the one shot by your own gun! A palm in draw is much safer. I recommend against that type (palm out) of draw, for what ever that is worth.
As mentioned if you insist on a palm out draw a left handed holster will do the trick.
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Something to think about.
Swing wide.
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Something to think about.
Swing wide.
Those are "words of iron," to borrow some words of "Ten Bears" in The Outlaw Josey Wales. And only with a DAO having a substantial trigger pull -- never a single-action handgun. It would be quite embarassing to shoot oneself in the foot, or worse, in the ass.
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I would like to add my 2 cents in agreement with those who cited safety concerns with a reversed-draw holster.
In a high stress situation, you have much to consider and having to remember not to sweep your legs and kidneys, while trying to assess a life-threatening situation, is a lot to ask.
Being a lefty, back in the early days of my life I considered using a righthanded holster and was told in no uncertain terms what an idiot I was for considering that. I've heard it called the dead man's draw and less flatteringly (by my old military handgun instructor) the dumba$$ draw.
Many holster makers will tell you not to use a holster on the wrong side behind your hip, due to the probability of sweeping yourself with the muzzle when drawing. The crossdraw from the front is a different issue, being more concerned with retention than sweeping yourself. For your own safety, I would suggest you train to draw "palm forward" and try to become comfortable with that, before adopting what is accepted as a more dangerous configuration.
Best of luck!
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isn't a shoulder rig a crossdraw?
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I would like to add my 2 cents in agreement with those who cited safety concerns with a reversed-draw holster.
In a high stress situation, you have much to consider and having to remember not to sweep your legs and kidneys, while trying to assess a life-threatening situation, is a lot to ask.
Being a lefty, back in the early days of my life I considered using a righthanded holster and was told in no uncertain terms what an idiot I was for considering that. I've heard it called the dead man's draw and less flatteringly (by my old military handgun instructor) the dumba$$ draw.
Many holster makers will tell you not to use a holster on the wrong side behind your hip, due to the probability of sweeping yourself with the muzzle when drawing. The crossdraw from the front is a different issue, being more concerned with retention than sweeping yourself. For your own safety, I would suggest you train to draw "palm forward" and try to become comfortable with that, before adopting what is accepted as a more dangerous configuration.
Best of luck!
Lots of wisdom packed there.
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isn't a shoulder rig a crossdraw?
Yes it is.
However when discussing "crossdraw", unless otherwise mentioned, it is usually understood to mean carrying on the belt, front point of the hips at either 10 or 2 o'clock.
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Yes indeed, Reinz. Thanks for clarifying for me. I'm sorry I wan't clear about that.
I didn't mean to say that a front side cross draw was a sweep danger. Rather that some instructors consider a from-the-waist cross draw rig (10 o'clock for righties or 2 o'clock for southpaws, as Reinz stated) to present a better grip to an assailant than to the wearer. Hence it is a retention issue rather than a muzzle sweep problem.
I haven't ever hear of this opinion against crossdraw being applied to shoulder rigs, Joe. I have no training or knowledge of issues pertaining to retention with a shoulder rig. Someone with training or personal experience will have to chime in about that. It's a good question really. I'd like to hear some opinions.
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Relic - no, we got our wires crossed.
I understood you completely. You verbalized your thoughts well as usual.
I was answering Joe's question about a shoulder rig being considered a x-draw.
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Welcome and enjoy the ride and choice of holsters. I like front pocket holsters. Tom
Hello Tom... Where you been buddy? Nice to see you posting. I'm still at Seecamp Forum as well. (sisco50)