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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh Accessories => Topic started by: Relic on June 22, 2011, 09:55:05 PM
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Jim is a great guy and very accommodating. I've been working with him on a custom spec'ed IPS holster adjusted to my needs. After several phone calls, a few emails, and many example pictures exchanged, Jim sent me some photo's of the completed IPS with kydex paddle and cut out adjusted to make a draw possible with a full grip on the pistol.
I can't share the pictures just yet, but it's a beauty. Jim nailed it.
The second holster is a custom front pocket holster with a curved 8oz leather shield and likely some lighter 6 oz leather for the holster. We're still working out the details on that one.
As soon as I get them both in my hands I'll post up some pic's.
Jim's a no-BS, straight shooter, who will tell you if he thinks you're asking for a bad design. You could spend a whole lot more, elsewhere, and get a lot less holster.
If you're like to check him out, his website http://www.leatherandstuff.net has some holster images.
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Awesome Relic, I'd really like to see how they turned out.
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Relic. Sounds like some unique holsters coming. Looking forward to the photos. :)
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Look forward to seeing the new design. :D
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See this thread for my excellent experience with an order from Jim Powell: http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Accessories;action=display;num=1304687288
(http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae310/photospotxx/CIMG4160Medium.jpg)
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Jim said they should arrive as early as today.
I am excited to see what Jim did with my ideas, although they are more my feature requests, and Jim's designs.
Joe, yes, Jim's business ethics are exemplary. Not to mention he makes fine holsters. Yours are beautiful holsters, and I'm hoping your "just big enough" pocket holster ideas are just as well done in my front pocket design. Jim actually mentioned you and your pocket holster during our discussions, and we "borrowed" your idea for a smaller concealment panel. :)
Just so everyone understands, Jim had the first holster completed and ready to ship in about a week, but I wanted to discuss the second design a bit more and asked him to wait and ship both together. Still extremely fast delivery for to holsters made to customer specs, but it would have been even faster if I didn't delay things.
I fixed the hyperlink, thanks for pointing that out Joe.
I'm used to the forum software auto-linking URLs.
Edit: Just received the tracking # from Jim, it looks like they'll be here Friday.
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Holsters are here, fit is excellent.
Looks like I'll have to sign up for a image hosting site to post the pictures. Jim did a nice job.
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Relic,
All my holster pouches are 8 oz leather. The back panel on the Back Pocket holster (like Joe's) and the one like you have are 8oz plus the back panel of 2 1/2 oz for a total of about 10 1/2 ounces. The back piece may vary a little. The stamping on the upper portion takes away probably about 1/2 oz. I've never checked it. I enjoy working with the needs and wants of my customers. Like I've said "If you're not happy ...it does me no good".
I'm glad you and Joe like the holsters.
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Jim, I see your a long time member, glad to see you posting.
You make some fine looking holsters.
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yankee2500
Thanks, I try to keep a low profile.
I've been making a few holsters for the R9 and have some ideas for one that I'll get tested and maybe be able to show pictures of in a couple of weeks or so.
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I look forward to seeing the new design. :D
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Rear of IPS, winged paddle
(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb343/steverelic/IPS3.jpg)
Front of IPS, perfect...fits like a custom glove. I can shake it violently and the pistol doesn't move or rattle at all, but the draw is smooth and easy. This thing is very slim and rides high and tight on the belt/waistband. Jim nailed it on this effort. Grip opening moved to rear for master grip prior to draw. So far everyone who has seen it thinks it's a PDA or iPad. They say "So you're turning geek on us?" I smile laugh and say "No it's a gun." They reply, "Yeah, right."
(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb343/steverelic/IPS2.jpg)
Front Pocket Holster, Joe's prior design input appreciated.
(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb343/steverelic/Pocket2.jpg)
(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb343/steverelic/Pocket1.jpg)
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Excellent holsters, Relic. Jim does good work, for sure! :)
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Very nice!
Thanks for sharing.
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I've used one of Jim's Seecamp wallet holsters for some time. Always wanted to try the IPS, but Jim was taking care of Jim at the time. Glad to see Jim is back in the saddle. Was just on his website this morning and saw the new kydex clip. Thanks for posting your comments on the new hangerment option. I also like the adjustment to the grip opening. Looks like I'll be ordering up later tonight. Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
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Hello All ... I'm new to the forum and hopeful that I'll find it helpful and I that I can contribute! Just took delivery on an R9S "Covert"; an amazing little pistol. The quality is stunning. The photo of the Jim Powell PDA style holster (with front flap that snaps closed) looks like it might suit my purposes, though I can't quite understand the clip that attaches it to the belt. "Understand" may be the wrong word, here, but I guess I was expecting to see standard belt loop(s) on the rear of such a design. Perhaps additional photos would help clarify it for me. In searching the web for a rear pocket holster I came across pocketholsters.com that has an interesting spin on the standard back pocket design. They offer one model (unfortunately not yet available for the R9) called the "Zipper Topped Pocket Holster" that incorporates a flap that simply lays across the top of the gun when in the rear pocket. The flap has a heavy duty - non-functioning - zipper sewn into the top of the flap, which prevents any view of the gun when it's carried in shallower pockets such as Dockers or Levi's. The flap is easily flipped up for your draw. (I'm going to try and talk the manufacturer into customizing one for my R9. I'll let yo know if I'm successful and post pics.) I purchased the Recluse for rear pocket and though its fit and function is perfect, it doesn't prevent this revealing top view of the gun in the shallow rear pockets, so I cannot use it in most of my situations. Anyway ... thought I'd share some comments on this and would welcome any input from you fine folks on this subject. Best regards ... Dan
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Dan, Welcome to the group. Congratulations on the Covert.
If you have any design ideas you would like implemented contact Robert @ Meco Holsters he is very accommodating and may be willing and able to do exactly what you want.
http://mecopocketholsters.com/
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Dan. Welcome. Congrats on getting the Covert. I endorse Meco Holsters as well; you will like Robert's experise. Again, welcome and enjoy the fine R9S.
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dnseibold:
We offer "custom" work and for a very reasonable price. I'd welcome the opportunity to answer any questions you may have.
With respect to the Pocketholster.com design you mention, IMO it interferes with function. You've got to take an extra effort/physically move that "zipper" portion out of the way in order to then slide your hand in to get a grip on the gun. And if your pants are tight/snug in that back pocket, you're going to have an even greater struggle doing that.
We made something very similar to what Pocketholsters.com offers. In our version, you had material which covered the backstrap. You only had to push downward, in the same motion as acquiring the grip, and it caused the material to move out of the way.
That being said, I would suggest you buy pants which have pockets deep enough to help cover what's in the back pocket. A little bit deeper pocket makes quite a bit of difference. And if anyone is able to see the backstrap of the gun, then IMO they're standing way too close for my comfort, and I would be moving away from them.
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Your points are well taken, K-Man. In my business environment, my options for pants are somewhat limited, unfortunately. I looked at your website and didn't see photos of the holster you mentioned with cloth covering the backstrap, but I'd be interested in seeing some pics. Perhaps we can work together to come up with a usable custom design to fit my needs. This "Covert" is ideal for my purposes and considering what's ultimately at stake, it's certainly worth the added expense to "get it right"! Best, Dan
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Amplifying on Kevin's point, I routinely have the "carry pocket" of each pair of pants I buy deepened to accommodate my holstered R9. It's an easy process for any seamstress or tailor, and mine charges only $5.00 per pocket for the work. She calls it "making a holster holster." After having so altered any number of pockets for me, she finally enrolled in a CCW course and obtained her own carry permit. (Missionary work. 8))
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(I've been buying off the rack too many years!) Excellent idea! The stitching on the deepened pocket could even be reinforced in the process, and then the Recluse would serve my purpose well. It IS a well thought out and executed design, and it's already been purchased. Thanks gents! - Dan
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Dan:
The holster I described was part of a whole set up that we offered:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Leathercrafter/Super_Combo_1.jpg)
We called the overall set the "Super Combo." You had five different styles/ways to carry. The holster itself actually snapped into the "wallet" (shown on the left) in this particular instance.
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Kevin. Excellent looking combo, for sure; very nice!
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I work as a lawyer and have to wear dress pants most days. I currently carry my pup in the front pocket in a Stoner Holsters rear-pocket holder. The square back piece looks just like a wallet carried in the front pocket. But, this means I must carry my actual wallet in the weak-side rear pocket where it is out of sight when the front pocket [and "wallet"] is visable. No one has IDd my pup so far, including my gun friends. 8)
PS There are some other very nice holster makers here that can make the same set up.
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Thank you all for your input and posted photos. I'll be sure to post again, once I've arrived at a workable solution for my situation. My current frustration has moved from holsters to grip panel screws. Picked up a nice pair of VZ grips for the R9S, but the stock panel screws have apparently been "Locktite" treated so well the screws won't budge. I can report that as fact because the brand new, perfectly fitting hex key promptly stripped itself and the inside of the stock hex screw when I attempted to remove th first panel. The good news - if you can call it that - is the stock panel and buggered screw remain tight as can be, so I'll simply live with the stock grips for the time being. BTW ... first 50 rounds - 25 W-White Box then 25 Golden Sabre JHP's - fired flawlessly. The Wilson Combat smoothing of the trigger has made this little pistol VERY sweet to operate. I'm impressed.
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Thank you all for your input and posted photos. I'll be sure to post again, once I've arrived at a workable solution for my situation. My current frustration has moved from holsters to grip panel screws. Picked up a nice pair of VZ grips for the R9S, but the stock panel screws have apparently been "Locktite" treated so well the screws won't budge. I can report that as fact because the brand new, perfectly fitting hex key promptly stripped itself and the inside of the stock hex screw when I attempted to remove th first panel. The good news - if you can call it that - is the stock panel and buggered screw remain tight as can be, so I'll simply live with the stock grips for the time being. BTW ... first 50 rounds - 25 W-White Box then 25 Golden Sabre JHP's - fired flawlessly. The Wilson Combat smoothing of the trigger has made this little pistol VERY sweet to operate. I'm impressed.
dnseibold:
Tracker has reported good results in breaking a Loctite bond by heating the grip screw with a soldering iron. As for the "buggered screw," I once successfully removed one from my R9, with no damage to the grip or frame, by using an Alden Grabit Damaged Screw Remover in a power drill set on slow reverse.
Good luck to you on resolving the problem!
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Thanks so much, Richard! I'll give your advice a try! Best, Dan (Apologies to the Admin & group for changing topics mid-thread. It's been a while since I participated on a forum like this. I tend to ramble when I type :O) I'll observe proper protocol in the future.)
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Thanks so much, Richard! I'll give your advice a try! Best, Dan (Apologies to the Admin & group for changing topics mid-thread. It's been a while since I participated on a forum like this. I tend to ramble when I type :O) I'll observe proper protocol in the future.)
I don't think you need to worry too much about proper protocol here we seem to have a lot of thread drift and it's never a big deal.;D
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Dan. Hoping for you the best in getting the screw removed; very good suggestions above. Good luck as the suggestions should do the job.
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I don't think you need to worry too much about proper protocol here we seem to have a lot of thread drift and it's never a big deal.;D
John:
If that was directed toward me, I plead guilty as charged. 8)
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I'm sure I qualify for that as well! :)
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John:
If that was directed toward me, I plead guilty as charged. 8)
Richard, It definitely was not. I'm not pointing fingers, I'm guilty as well but the forum seems to function fine with no friction from the drift. :D
I'm on some forums that are run by the Gestapo, Mods on power trips, if you post off the subject you will be warned after a couple of times you will be banned for a few days to a week or more. :o Those are read only forums. ;D
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Thread drift makes things interesting - and- keeps the thread going....
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Thread drift makes things interesting - and- keeps the thread going....
+1 ;D ;D
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Thread drift makes things interesting - and- keeps the thread going....
and going, and drifting................... ;D
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And drifting and drifting and............... ;D ;D
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And drifting and drifting and............... ;D ;D
+1 ;D