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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: Rocnerd on February 03, 2005, 11:07:55 AM
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Ok, like most of you who don't already own one of these little beauties I want one, but don't have the money saved, yet, to get one. (Must keep plastic in wallet! That is going to be a tough fight) Does anyone know of anywhere in S. Florida where I could pick one up? Or should I just go to my favorite gun shop, Lou's, and see if they could order one for me?
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Its highly unlikely that you are going to find one lying around "in stock." No new guns have shipped for a month or two, and demand is high, so anything out there is probably either gone or way over-priced...
Order one through your favorite dealer -- thats the best thing to do. Make sure they understand that there is no distributor for R-9s -- the order has to be made with the factory. If you have any problems, give Eric Rohrbaugh a call at the factory.
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PM sent. ;)
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Rocnerd,
I ordered my R9S through my local gun guy 88 days ago and joined the forum in January, after having been recommended to do so by Eric.
It's a great website and you will find that there are three types of participants:
1. Those that have R9's, (and paid their dues to get one)
2. Those that devoutly wish to own an R9, (and are paying their dues now, of which I am one)
3. Those, like yourself, who get hooked (and will have to get on line)
Am I jealous of those who have R9s already? Yes! That's how it works. Meantime, there's great guntalk to keep you busy.
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Well, I guess I'll have to get in line then. Thanks guys.
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Personally, I don't mind the wait. Yes sir the R9 is a great gun, and I certainly can't wait to have it in my pocket, but I just don't mind waiting.
I look at it this way. I placed the down payment with my dealer, I paid cash, so I didn't have to charge anything. By the time the R9 comes in, I will once again pay cash for the balance. By doing this, it just doesn't feel like I have spent a whole lot of cash.
If I wanted one right away,I probably would have had to pay another two hundred dollars, and I would not have ordered it from my friend.
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Good morning y'all, I have some openings on my up coming order from Rohrbaugh on R9S'.The first shippment to come in, after the factory starts shipping again is all spoken for, should ship in March. This open shippment should ship in April. I can ship to your dealer of choice, and would be happy to do so. I just get a deposit of $100 and the balance before shippment. I'm a dealer in Dallas. Tom
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Tom,
I would gladly order from you but I placed that order 3 months ago to my local FFL. Rohrbaugh made no representation that there would be preferred dealers, which is my greatest fear.
I hope you sell alll the R9s and make good money. However, if my wait is longer than advised, or my FFL is told to go to another dealer, my remedy will be simple: Farewell Rohrbaugh
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PCA, Don't throw out the baby with the bath water!!!. It will happen, Rohrbaugh will start shipping soon. Its not an exact science-the schedule of mfg & shipping, that is, after the move. It is always better to get one from your local favorite dealer. My orders for R9S' will sell in this area no problem. I was just trying to help out a forum member. I have some Speer Gold Dot 124 gr ammo and can get 115gr ammo. I sell 50 rd boxes for $12.00. Which seems to be a good fair price, from what my customers tell me. If I can help any follow forum member, I'll try to do so. Tom
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PCA,
If you wait is longer than expected, I can assure you it is not because your dealer is getting unfair treatment. One thing I have learned about these guys is that they are adamant about filling orders as received -- I didn't get any preferred treatment for mine, and I am not aware of anyone who did.
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Duane, You got that right!! Fair is fair. Get in line is the deal. We are all treated equal. Tom
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If fairness rules, no one will be happier than me. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is a point well taken.
I was burned twice in previous firearm transactions in which allocation of the gun existed and I need to step away from that.
Sorry to bring a downer to the forum which may have been unnecessary and thank you for your encouragement.
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No prolbem PCA -- stay the course!
I have spent enough time with Eric and had enough dealings with the company to know that they are straight up. There is no allocation going on -- and the delays have been caused by this whole relocation of the factory.
We all have waited for our guns -- soon after you get it, the pain is forgotten and you become a full fleged member of the fold! ;D
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PCA, It will be over before you know it. Then you will be a happy camper. Just think how a new mother feels! Great things come to those that wait!!! Tom
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Got it, guys, and thank you once again.
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Waiting...
Seems like I waited FOREVER for my R9S.. :o
But NOW-It is in my pocket.. 8)
Time is the healer of all.. ;D
Welcome..
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Brenden:
I like your moniker regarding "W". Don't get me started on politics.
"W" is a very good man, in my view, and I will use the "W" to stand for Wait, until my turn comes around.
Note: In NJ, you need a pistol permit for every handgun you buy and it is time limited. My "W" is all the more comlicated because you are juggling three events instead of one: 1) Handgun Permit, 2) Receipt of R9, 3) Expiration of permit
The legislators in NJ who make up the laws hate guns and gunowners and they get a "twofer". In addition to making gun laws harder for law abiding citizens they inflict harm to those who do not vote for them.
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PCA, Sounds like a group of firearm folks need to get together and get some help from the NRA and throw those people out of office. Do you have a state rifle assn with the NRA in NJ? Thats where I would start. Tom
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Tom,
There is a very long story to be told regarding NJ gun laws . PA people tried to help us, the pro-gun people in NJ are busy, but we don't have the numbers to prevail.
PA wouldn't like their gun reality if Pittsburgh and Philadedlphia decided for them like Trenton does for us.
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PCA Too bad! You or some other pro gun people should go to the NRA annual meetings in Houston in April and lobby the powers to be in helping your states cause. Tom
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QUOTE:
" I ordered my R9S through my local gun guy 88 days ago and joined the forum in January, after having been recommended to do so by Eric."
I ordered mine 122 days ago....I wonder if it will be in the March allocation?
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Tom:
That has been tried and I regret that the NRA has abandoned NJ as hopeless. This is my opinion, not necessarily fact.
NRA is very quick to take money but slow on services. Once again, opinion, not absolute fact.
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Harrydog:
Yikes! You are ahead of me on the R9s line. Present tally for me is 93 days but you should get yours first.
My hope is that the factory claims will be true and they will overcome demand with added space. What that will mean to us, only time will tell.
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>>I'm at day #167 on the wait list for my R9. But then I purchased a very nice used R9 about a week into my wait... Not sure if that shows my weakness for or commitment to the Rohrbaugh company, but a wait is a wait.
I even went up to the new factory to say hi to my new R9...might have seen the slide and the barrel in their respective piles, but it seems my trigger was misplaced in the move...the trigger box may have accidently made it's way into an electrician's van...! I assume that mix up has been solved and fingers crossed that we all will be seeing our new R9s in the next month or so...!!
Man - I love these little guns...! I'm sure the existance of the R9 is why God created pockets...!!...TW<<
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TW,
Now you can understand my reluctance to even file for a NJ handgun permit. If I got my handgun permit to purchase today, I have 90 days to purchase. 93 days (my wait so far) + 90 days = 183 days, just over six months. You are already at 167 days!
I wish Rohrbaugh would give me a date by which I can expect the gun. At least I would be able to go for the permit now.
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PCA< You might wait a week or two ,then call Eric and tell him the deal about the NJ permit. He might be able to help with a ballpark time frame. Tom
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Tom,
It can't hurt to try and thanks for the recommendation.
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>>PCA...
I don't know if it is possible to switch order numbers with you, but if it would help you, and if Eric can somehow make it happen - you can have my place in line and I'll take yours. If this sounds like something you would like to pursue I will contact Eric about it just as soon as I hear back from you...TW<<
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Duane, I just noticed that the posts count is not changing ie: I want one (S. Florida) Rocnerd,TW, PCA, theirishguard,and yourself & Etc. As I was going through the comments in this area,to reply, I noticed that the post number is not changing. Is that normal? Tom
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Tom,
It depends on what you mean by "not changing."
You will not see them change on multiple posts in one thread. For whatever reason, the software does not count mulitple replies to the same thread as increasing your post count. I guess its not a "post count" so much as a "number of threads you have posted to" count. That seems counterintuitive, but it seems like that is what it is doing.
When your post count does go up on subsequent threads, it will show the "new" number even on old threads -- i.e., it reflects your current number, not a "historical" number from the time period in which you were posting.
Is this consistent with what you are seeing?
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Duane, Yes, I guess. It seems that the number is the same for a number of replies, then it jumps ahead just now. I was just wondering how that works. Thanks, Tom
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>>OK... I just spoke to Eric and he is going to swap my place in line with that of PCA. AND...he made a point of telling me there will be a new shipment of guns going out by late next week...!...whatever that means. Perhaps PCA's gun on the move...?...finger's crossed and I guess we will just have to see. That work for you, PCA...?..TW<<
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TW:
YES!!!!
I got a call from Eric yesterday, who was sick as a dog. I told him to go to bed and he said "yes, doctor". (Actually, my brother is the doctor in the family).
Eric told me of his having spoken to TW only 15 minutes prior to his calling me.
Note to the forum: I was not comfortable switcing with TW, except that he does already have an R9. I would like to think that I would do the same thing, but, whatever I would do is moot at this time because I have not had the opportunity to perform this extraordinary gesture as TW has me.
Life is not like this for me, normally, and I am very deeply grateful to TW's character, which is obviously informed by generosity and goodwill toward a brother-in-arms. Well done and many thanks.
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Very nice, TW. You are a gentleman's gentleman.
Goes to show you what a great community of people we have gathered here.
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TW, What a nice gift, I guess, you and PCA are joined at the hip now!! Tom
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>>Thanks for the kind words, Fellas - but as PCA-Man already pointed out...I already have an R9...I'm waiting on #2...so swapping places in line was not really any big sacrafice on my part. Actually, sometimes I feel guilty talking about my gun on order around here when I already have one attached to my body. Kinda feels like walking up to the desert table while stuffing my face with a delicious piece of cake, and butting in line with others waiting on their first...ya know...?
The guy who really deserves a pat on the back is "OOE" (Our Own Eric). Think about it... I mean, how many times have each of us found ourselves hounding some gun store owner or customer service rep about a gun we had on backorder...?? Then there is Eric...who of his own initiative calls us just to give updates on the progress of our orders...?...!! It is unreal...! What a guy...! And what a way to build a business...! It sure makes me want to come back for more. OK...well that and I'm a bit greedy - lol...! So how about a big group hug for OOE...!!...!! Keep up the good work, Fella...TW<<
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TW,
I think you are being too modest but in a good cause. When I have had difficulty with Glock or Sig in the past I have never been treated as graciously, nor with sincere concern, as has Eric Rohrbaugh in the several times I have spoken to him.
Let's keep the Rohrbaugh fest alive, when weather favors us getting together, and invite Eric as our honored guest.
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Guys:
In order for me to buy the R9 there is a "new form" to be filled out in NJ because I haven't purchased a gun in several years. I have to pay $18 so NJ can run a background check. Then I will get a handgun purchase permit so they can run another background check. Then I will go through a "home grown" NJ NICS check; another backgound check and another $15. Then, after all this happens, I will wait another 72 hours.
My firearms profile at the local police station, (where all this takes place), has over 100 permits, a copy of my certified pistol instructor certificate and it dates back 30 years.
Anybody want to know why I stopped buying guns in NJ? Anyone want to move here?
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Why would anyone????!!!! Tom
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>>Hi Phil...
Look at it this way... You moved to NJ for a set time...something you have little control over as to duration because you are fulfilling an important role of caring for your Dad through the rest of his life - something you have little to no say about regarding duration.
Now comes the breath of an R9 in your life... There is now a goal of obtaining one, but again there is the "NJ Factor"...but at least you have a time table to follow and you do have some control about that...there is an end in sight (an R9 in hand)...it may, in fact, help you to get another gun quicker while you are in NJ (perhaps a full size, hi cap R9...?), and bottom line - the R9 WILL be worth your wait and you will have it for the rest of your life...!!!! Oh yea...at some point you get to LEAVE NJ - what could be better...?...TW<<
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Come on, Maryland, say something bad about your state!
Where is Illinois in all this? We have too many forum members from states with good gun laws!
Somebody stop me.....
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I have to wait until Wed. to find out if I can even own a R9S in Maryland. I think it will pass.
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Newt,
Criticizing NJ is twisted but that's the only way I can vent. Remember, in NJ former senators and governors, (who commit felonies), walk free while gun owners are treated like criminals.
The corruption in this state is an abomination and I assure you, next year's governor's election will go democrat.
I met the republican challenger, Brett Schundler, at my gun club's open house several years ago. He was pro-gun! That's a crime in this state. No wonder he lost!
The guy who won the governor's race recently left in disgrace. He spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on his gay lover and left NJ vulnerable to terrorists! Is he going to jail? No!!!!! Misappropriation of funds, lying under oath, falsification of documents?? Not a problem. He's not even indicted. Perfectly acceptable behavior.
I wish you the best of luck with your MD R9 decision.
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>>Hi Newt...
I live twenty minutes from Rockville, MD, where the R9 is likely being evaluated. If you need someone to help these people see the light about Rohrbaugh Firearms...just let me know and I will gladly offer my two cents and a thump on the head(s). Hopefully their "firearms experts" are the real deal. Good luck...TW<<
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TW,
This is day #3 that I'm tracking down the records officer in my police department to get my paperwork going!
Once this guy is tracked down, only then do the 5 levels of background check commence.
Thump those knuckleheads in MD but in NJ there is no hope.
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Thanks TW, The hearing is Wed. 16th in Annapolis. We feel we 've done everything we can and we are very optimistic it will pass. Thankyou very much for your offer and I would like to comend you for putting a fellow member(PCA) ahead in line for a R9S. If you want to attend the hearing E-mail me and I will give you the contact # for the particulars, Thanks Newt.
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Newt,
Good luck tomorrow. What criteria are utilized to judge the merit of the R9 or any other gun, for that matter?
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>>Newt...see PM...TW<<
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Hi PCA, Any handgun is judged considering the following characteristics, this is right off the application, 1. concealability 2. Ballistic accuracy 3.Weight 4.Quality of materials 5.Quality of manufacture 6.Reliability as to safety 7.Caliber 8.Detectability by the standard security equipment commonly used at airports or courthouses 9.Utility for legitimate sporting activities,selfprotection,or law enforcement. The board shall not place undue weight on any one characteristic.
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Newt, It all sounds like a way of keeping guns out of the hands of the citizens. You just thought you were free. Tom
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Newt,
Tom is right. the description is cogent and well written but if there is no weight given to any consideration, this is an opportunity for denial.
Hope I'm wrong.
BTW: I finally got my paperwork going for permit to purchase the R9. The guy told me to call him in a month. This is very, very fast in NJ. I used to get purchase permits within a few days but NJ is always on the track of regression.
My FFL dealer is applauding all the bad mouthing of NJ that I'm posting as he cannot make a good living. One guy he sold a gun to is still waiting for his permit after 6 months. Once he gets the permit, he will have only 2 more background checks to go.
This is deliberate. Lawmakers in NJ are very concerned about the rights of criminals and could care less about gun owners.
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Well, I pulled the trigger ;D so to speak (sorry for the lame pun) and gave Arego's a call. As soon as my FFL gets there they will overnight it. I want you all to know that I blame all of you here for this addition to my credit card debt. But seriously, thanks for all the input. I have never bought anything sight unseen before, but with all the info here I feel comfortable doing so with the rohrbaugh. I am sure I will feel happier with a 9mm in the pocket as opposed to a .32. Now I just need to get an order together for that Hedley pocket holster. Some more business coming your way RJ, due to the rave reviews of the forum, so move that cat out of the way. Just kidding the hoster can wait until the cat wakes up. I'll be in touch.
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Well, I pulled the trigger ;D so to speak (sorry for the lame pun) and gave Arego's a call. As soon as my FFL gets there they will overnight it. I want you all to know that I blame all of you here for this addition to my credit card debt. But seriously, thanks for all the input. I have never bought anything sight unseen before, but with all the info here I feel comfortable doing so with the rohrbaugh. I am sure I will feel happier with a 9mm in the pocket as opposed to a .32. Now I just need to get an order together for that Hedley pocket holster. Some more business coming your way RJ, due to the rave reviews of the forum, so move that cat out of the way. Just kidding the hoster can wait until the cat wakes up. I'll be in touch.
Congrats on the upcoming "Pocket Rocket" ;D
You will not be sorry with EITHER choice-Pistola or Leather.. 8)