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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: searcher on February 16, 2005, 04:37:16 PM
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I was in the market a couple of months ago for a Rohrbaugh. Was about to buy one from someone on this forum when I received news of our plant closing down in a few months, so I had to put on hold my purchase. Got lucky and found a new job. Now I'm back in the market for a Rohrbaugh. My concern is what experience those of you who have this fine gun are having shooting to point of aim. At say 21 ft, where I expect the maximum shooting requirements to take place, I expect my firearm to shoot to point of aim. Are your Rohrbaugh's giving you a decent point of aim impact.
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Searcher, You should have no problem shooting to the point of aim. At that distance nice groups are possible. Tom
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Thanks Tom.
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searcher,
Excellent question. I don't have my R9 yet but your question is a highly relevant one that I haven't heard on this forum to date. Well done and many thanks.
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PCA
Thanks.
After proper mechanical functioning, shooting point of aim is the most important aspect of a defensive weapon. When you have a fraction of a second to protect the lives of your family and ones self, where you aim your firearm with it's sights is where you must absolutley expect impact to take place. Any deviation, especially one of inches at a short distance, 21ft and less, could generate an unpleasant siuation.
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searcher,
I love point of aim and do not like "6 o'clock guns" which requires sight placement beneath point of aim to acquire accuracy. (Old Colt and S&W revolvers)
The point you make is solid and I hope I never have to utilize this in a real life situation.
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PCA
I'm curious as to corrections that can be made to fix a R9 that is not shooting to point of aim. I talked to Eric about this yesterday and he said that he didn't think there was much that could be done.
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searcher,
The most difficult problem to overcome is getting an R9 in the first place. Once you get one, the ergonomics (relation of grip to bore axis) of the R9 pistol, should satisfy the point of aim requirement and you don't want to "fix" what is not broken, right?
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There was a video someone on this forum had put a link to that showed Eric (I believe) shooting metal plates at 25 yards. I would say that is a good arguement that the R9 shoots POA. Hopefully that someone will point us back to that link.
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Yeah, I saw that video and I forget where it is. If you search the forum you might find it. Alternatively, someone could tell us where to look.
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I shoot a little high and left w/ the R9 (and all my pistols)........not enough to worry about although I think with alot of work on trigger control I should be able to correct my problem.
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Sharp,
I have same problem and it is usually due to:
1. Trigger Control
2. Breathing
3. Follow Through
4. I just got a bullseye, I'm feeling good about myself, and I fire again too quickly.
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First - that video. I gave a link before the SHOT Show where it could be seen. I have been back to check hoping I could save it but - the whole page is a Flash menu and the video is embedded within - could not find a way to save it.... tho it had to be stored somewhere on my drive, unless just held in RAM.
Anyways guys ... try this link ... http://www.shotshow.tv/ - and register with your email and a password ... it's free. Once in go to Rohrbaugh under the companies list - you should find it there. Go look soon before it disappears. I hope perhaps I can get a copy of this from Eric sometime.
Re point of aim stuff - I have always found my R9's shoot a bit low and left - and daresay this is a function of my kinda grip etc. It is in no way excessive and does not bother me and I find now that instinctively I shoot the gun a wee but high right, without thinking.
Let me stress ... this is me being pedantic (anal!??) - we are talking small discrepancy ... heck, this ain't a bullseye pistol! Far as I am concerned, it is more than adequate. If you watch the video of Karl ... you'll see he shoots a tad high and maybe a shade left - but the group says it all. No problems for me.:)
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Took mine out for the first time last weekend. I still have some adjustments to make for the trigger pull (it's way longer than my Kimber that I used to shoot with), but it seemed to point really well. I also found the sights to work surprisingly well.
When my R9 first arrived, I would go through the motions of drawing (unloaded, of course) to fire at an arbitrary target 15-20 feet away without using the sights. I noticed that if I held the position and checked the sight alignment, more often than not the gun was naturally aimed dead on or really close to the target.
Cleaning and lubing the R9 is another story. Upon reassembly, I can fire the recoil spring end cap clear across the room when it is well lubed and not hit anything ;D
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"Cleaning and lubing the R9 is another story. Upon reassembly, I can fire the recoil spring end cap clear across the room when it is well lubed and not hit anything" /Wayne
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You're lucky, I usually "dead center" the dreaded "Black hole", never to be seen again.
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Mine tend to gravitate across the kitchen, into the living room, and under the couch. Until I got the hang of holding onto a spring assembly coated in Mobil1, being pushed over a barrel lug coated in superlube, there was a repeated chorus of:
- Zing
- D**n!
- Tap
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That first sound being the spring uncompressing, me swearing, followed by the cap bouncing across a hardwood floor.
;D