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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: PursuitSS on June 30, 2006, 03:24:08 PM
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Being that I can't use my favorite 9mm load (Winchester 127 gr. +P+), has anyone tried the expanding full metal jacket Federal load?
I should have my refurbished Rohrbaugh R-9s by next Friday. I am looking forward to retiring my Glock 27.
PursuitSS
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Are you asking about the federal premium 9 mm 124 grain HST jacketed hollow point?
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Do not retire the Glock. I would use the r9 for true pocket carry and not the Glock for that purpose.
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Are you asking about the federal premium 9 mm 124 grain HST jacketed hollow point?
Negative, this is a fullmetal jacket round that expands:
(http://www.ammoman.com/eps/efmj1.jpg)
(http://www.ammoman.com/eps/efmjgel.jpg)
PursuitSS
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I do not have experience with that one. Sorry.
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I like the round :) But its a little hot for a R-9. Its a +P. The round while being a full metel jacket has no where near the profile of ball ammo though at least in 9mm. If youve a Glock or some other comparable 9mm Id carry it,shoot it, practice with it in a heart beat. If its your R-9 though Id stick with a round more suited to it. (Silver tips, SXTS, etc.)
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PersuitSS,
If it is a +P round as cpt.loolaid states, do nor fire it in a Rohrbaugh.
Mike
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According to Federal's web site it is NOT +P! The old 124 gr. load was +P, it is now a non-+P 105 gr. load. I have read the warnings about not shooting +P (or +P+) loads in my (soon to have) Rohrbaugh.
I'm looking for a load that will:
1. Feed & function 100%
2. Expand out of a short barrel, even after passing through clothing.
My R-9s is going to be my off duty piece.
PursuitSS
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PersuitSS,
When you get the Rohrbaugh by all means try these rounds thru it. I may have to get a box of these for myself for my next range trip with the R9. Mine doesn't like FMJ's at all. I am gathering a collection of several different unusual and hard to find rounds to find one that will feed reliably. Start stocking up on a variety of rounds for your R9 in case you get one with feed issues like mine. You will want to try everything you can yourself before you take the final step to send it back for tweaking.
Mike
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According to Federal's web site it is NOT +P! The old 124 gr. load was +P, it is now a non-+P 105 gr. load. I have read the warnings about not shooting +P (or +P+) loads in my (soon to have) Rohrbaugh.
I'm looking for a load that will:
1. Feed & function 100%
2. Expand out of a short barrel, even after passing through clothing.
My R-9s is going to be my off duty piece.
I have not tried that round, but have used the MAG SAFE EFMJ
rounds and like them, a lot. Not one misfire, period. That said,
as our friends here will say, it's "spendy" at $2.00 a pop.
I bought a BUNCH (=1000 rounds) of 9mm Gold Dot HP 115 gr.
from AmmoMan.com about a year ago, and still have about
900 of em left (LOL). No flaws with these either, but I'm dying to
try the Silvertips, cause my hero, Karl Rohrbaugh uses em. Hate
to waist those GDHP though. Maybe I'll shoot those through my
Ruger SP101 in 9mm (oooh, SO SMOOTH!).
I'd try out those bad boys and see if they work. If they don't,
try the other recommended round.
Cal
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Cal:
After trying several configurations, I now carry a Glaser Silver (prefrag) up the spout backed by 115-grain Gold Dots in the magazine.
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According to Federal's web site it is NOT +P! The old 124 gr. load was +P, it is now a non-+P 105 gr. load. I have read the warnings about not shooting +P (or +P+) loads in my (soon to have) Rohrbaugh.
I'm looking for a load that will:
1. Feed & function 100%
2. Expand out of a short barrel, even after passing through clothing.
My R-9s is going to be my off duty piece.
PursuitSS
I must have old stock. Mine have +P stamped on them. Im sure your department armourer could give you some good recomendations. Are the efmjs you saw still tructiated?
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Cal:
After trying several configurations, I now carry a Glaser Silver (prefrag) up the spout backed by 115-grain Gold Dots in the magazine.
Okay, Now I KNOW im out of the loop and old school. Last I saw Glasers were +Ps too. Richard, save me a trip to the store, is Glaser now offering thier rounds in standard pressure for 9mmX19?
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Last I know of all the Glasers were +P loads.
Mike
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Cal:
After trying several configurations, I now carry a Glaser Silver (prefrag) up the spout backed by 115-grain Gold Dots in the magazine.
Wow, Richard. I carry a MAGSAFE EMFJ (as I described) in the pipe, and the rest are GDHP 115gr in the magazine. We think alike!
Cal
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Last I know of all the Glasers were +P loads.
Mike
i know they offer .38 spl in standard loads
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Okay, Now I KNOW im out of the loop and old school. Last I saw Glasers were +Ps too. Richard, save me a trip to the store, is Glaser now offering thier rounds in standard pressure for 9mmX19?
Captain:
Lord have mercy! Thanks for the reminder. It looks as if I'm the one who has fallen "out of the loop." :-[
I purchased several cards of Glaser Blues and Silvers in various calibers some time ago, removed them from their plastic-covered cards and stored them in ammo wallets according to caliber. I absolutely forgot that, while the 9mm Makarov Glasers are standard pressure, those in 9mm Parabellum/Luger are +P. Here's a link to the listing:
http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/glaser/glaser.htm
I need to take that +P Glaser out of my R9 and follow Cal's lead by replacing it with a MagSafe.
(I seem to be coming down with a case of "Sometimers Disease." :P)
I should modify this "confessional" post by stating --strictly for the record and with the admonition, "Don't try this at home" -- that my "Pup" didn't complain about the test Glasers. (And there went the warranty. 8))
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Captain:
Lord have mercy! Thanks for the reminder. It looks as if I'm the one who has fallen "out of the loop." :-[
I purchased several cards of Glaser Blues and Silvers in various calibers some time ago, removed them from their plastic-covered cards and stored them in ammo wallets according to caliber. I absolutely forgot that, while the 9mm Makarov Glasers are standard pressure, those in 9mm Parabellum/Luger are +P. Here's a link to the listing:
http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/glaser/glaser.htm
I need to take that +P Glaser out of my R9 and follow Cal's lead by replacing it with a MagSafe.
(I seem to be coming down with a case of "Sometimers Disease." :P)
I should modify this "confessional" post by stating --strictly for the record and with the admonition, "Don't try this at home" -- that my "Pup" didn't complain about the test Glasers. (And there went the warranty. 8))
Richard, Im a BIG fan of Glasers from a way back. Like You, "Id never try this and void the warranty" but im curious, You only load one in the chamber, stoking the rest with other ammo. Has it been your expieriance the Glaser doesnt feed well in your R-9 if you were hypotheticaly to "test drive" said ammo? And if so, did you notice any differance in feed between Glaser blue vs. silver?
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Captain:
Ever since I started carrying a weapon in civilian life, I have assumed that I would probably not have to shoot more than once or twice in a self-defense situation -- if, God forbid, I have to shoot at all. With that in mind, I have settled on a prefragmented round as the leader with jacketed hollow points following along -- the thought being that, if the prefrag alone isn't enough, a followup JHP ought to complete the job.
I became a believer in "prefrags," regardless of caliber, after some experimentation at the range.
Regarding feeding, with that plastic tip, the Glasers feed as smoothly as "a hot knife through warm butter" -- both Blue and Silver.
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Richard,
Just curious, have you given consideration to the
scenario that your first shot, and others to follow,
might be through a windshield?
That happened here in Houston in a notable road rage
case between two white executives in which the
aggressor was shot and killed through the driver's side
window which he had broken with his fist. There was a
no bill in this case because the shooter's life was threatened.
The prefrag round might not be the most effective in this
case.
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Tracker:
Yes, the "windshield" factor has occurred to me. That's one reason I carry only one prefrag, and that one in the chamber. In a situation requiring penetration of a windshield, I would hope I had the time and ability to execute at least a "double tap" and that a JHP or two would be sufficient.
You've touched on the heart of the problem, though. Any defensive handgun is a compromise in one way or another. One old Army instructor of mine used to say that, "A handgun is essentially a weapon to buy the time required to fight your way to a proper weapon." (Of course, he wasn't referring to civilians carrying concealed weapons.)