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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: R9GiRl on October 08, 2006, 12:50:03 AM
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Hello everyone! I just purchased a R9S today ($1029+tax). I know more than retail but I see that seems to be the norm. I had a HK P2000SK with the insight laser, but some dumbass broke into my home and stole it. I won't keep my fingers crossed to get it back but, who knows? Anyway, I just wanted to say Hi, my name is Jessica and I am from Texas. I am 27 years old and believe I bought the best 9mm for concealment and protection available. I haven't shot it yet but, I hope I don't knock myself out with the reported recoil. I hope to learn as much as possible here as I have noticed the majority of you are most helpful to people with questions. Thanks for the opportunity to be a part of this forum!
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R9GiRl:
Welcome to the Forum! You did indeed purchase "the best 9mm for concealment and protection available." If you haven't already done so, check out Chris's excellent FAQ site:
http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/rohrbaugh/
I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your HK. Here's hoping the police are able to collar the "perp" and return it to you.
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Jessica,
Welcome to the forum. There are many fine members here. Please come back often.
I hope you get that great HK returned OK.
Bill
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Thank you! After I figure out how to upload photos, I will take some pics today by my pool in my bikini for you all. You'll also get to see my "other" security measures. :-*
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Doesn't sound like much insecurity in your part of Texas,
Jessica; welcome onboard.
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Yeah, Yeah, Jessica,
Everybody tells us that.
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Like promised, I am an honorable woman ;)...
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Enjoy!!!
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And also very well protected. The guy who stole your HK
really was a dumbass.
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O.K. so I went out and got a Pachmayr #4 slip on at the gun show in San Antonio. Fits perfect and compliments the gun for my petite hands and, in my opinion, the astethics of R9S. Now I want the trigger extension so, I believe it to be a Pearce compatible with Kahr's MK9/K9/K40 right? I understand I will have to "sculpt" the extension to the R9's magazine release. Now the hard part... I cannot for the life of me find a holster. I am pretty petite and usually wear form fitting clothing. I've come to the sad conclusion that I will have to buy a smart carry or the like. I guess the best in concealment for my frame. Just look like a pair of depends undergarments that some moths got a hold of. Maybe I'm too critical. Does anyone know of a good concealment holster for small bodied women?
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I apologize, I knew, but forgot, about the accessories section. Your humble forgiveness is requested and if a kind Mod would teleport the above to the appropriate place, I would be forever in debt. Thank you...
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Hi Jessica,
If you have pockets that would work, RJ Hedley, Ron Graham, and K&D Holsters make good pocket holsters. I have personal experience with the first two. Pocket carry is really the purpose of guns this small.
http://hedleyholsters.com/
http://www.grahamholsters.com/
http://www.kdholsters.com/
I think some forum members are trying Ken Null's SMZ holster. If you can wear the shoulder harness comfortably it should work well. It might work under a shirt as well as under a jacket.
http://www.klnullholsters.com/
FIST makes a very good lady's strong side belt holster.
http://www.fist-inc.com/holsters/lady/Default.htm
Cunningham Custom Leather may be another choice.
http://www.womensholsters.com/
You will have to check with the above two to see if they can make one for a Rohrbaugh.
Depending on your mode of dress, this thigh holster might be an option, but I have no idea of how well it actually works.
http://www.anklepocket.com/store.sql?visit=11603610140.98289124014125&page=11
You might consider a belly band under your shirt. Use the retention strap if you get this one:
http://www.passport-holsters.com/waist_band.html
Keep in mind that you can wear an untucked shirt at times when a man can't get away with it, and can wear a jacket when leaving a jacket on would look funny on a man. Take advantage of this.
Stay away from trigger extensions or trigger shoes. They could cause a problem with holster fit and create a dangerous situation when reholstering.
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Thank you very much for the time you took for me. Those links are more than a great start BillinPittsburgh! It's so hard to find holsters for me. At the gun show I tried everyone from A-Z there. Noone had a belly band or premium replica of one. The one I tried was homemade and felt like an hour or two into wearing I would have blisters on both sides of my abdomen from the homemade stitching. I will continue the search much better with your suggestions and perhaps more research...Again, thank you.... :D
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Sorry, 1 more thing this evening. I haven't purchased any new 9mm ammo. Really because I don't know what to purchase for the range and what to use for carry. The most reliable, accurate, and lowest amount of recoil is what I'm searching for. I have some Lellier & Bellot 9mm luger 115gr. FMJ left over from the HK I had that the FFL dealer threw in for me. (I had a chance to shoot 2 magazines before it was stolen.) Are these O.K? I have them in the magazines now, figured, better than nothing till I know what ammo to buy for each occasion. I know I'm new and I just want to say thank you all for all your help!
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Ammo selection is a frequent topic here and I'm sure if you look around you'll find many opinions posted. Many here like Speer Gold Dot HP, Winchester Silvertips and Winchester RA9T to name a few.
Whatever you do, do not use any ammo rated +P or +P+. The R9 takes standard pressure only.
My personal favorite is Winchester RA9T. This is fairly low recoil and is tested to penetrate as well as +P in gel tests.
Once you choose your ammo, get 100 or so rounds and make sure it works reliably in your pistol.
Good luck with your new R9.
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Jessica,welcome to the forum.Looks like you have pretty good security with your Rott.
As a big fan of the HK (I have 7) I sympathize with your loss.
Another option is a fine line of concealment handbags from Galco.They are of premium quality and comparable in style ,design and construction to any finer bag like Coach,Mark Cross or the like.
www.usgalco.com
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Jessica:
As for holsters, Bill's post has pretty much set forth the definitive word on that subject.
As for ammunition, Chris's FAQ site has the results of some extensive tests he conducted:
http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/rohrbaugh/
The Speer Gold Dots are my choice for a carry load, although I believe Karl Rohrbaugh loads his personal R9 with Winchester Silvertips. Other Forum members have settled on other loads. Winchester "White Box" FMJ seems to be generally accepted as a suitable practice load. Your "pup" (the R9, not that magnicient Rottweiler) may prefer something different.
Good luck with your new R9, and stay safe.
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Jessica,
I don't think I would carry the S&B in the R9. A lot of
foreign ammo has hard primers and I would stay with the
ammo that Richard suggested; much better to use the
tried and true rather than the unknown.
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Thank you all for your help. My Rottie is about 18 months old and his name is DaVinci. I got him when he was 5 weeks old right after my husband was shot and killed by a sniper in Iraq. I only have my Rott, my R9S, and the jewelry I wear to make it appear I have a husband near by to deter the criminal element. Maybe I'm asking too many questions but I'm paranoid now and really appreciate everyone's help. I'm 27 and want to protect myself and 2 children. You all are so nice, thank you...
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You just keep right on asking whenever the mood suits you.
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R9Girl,
Welcome to the forum!! ;D
You picked a pup, and hope you enjoy it!!
It should take care of you fine with the proper diet.. ;)
Again,Welcome..
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Groo here
About your husband "Hero" is the only word that comes to mind,
About ammo , the R9 is like a sports car it likes to be feed what
it likes not what you like.
Mr "K" [aka Roharbaugh ] Told me to try winchester
Super Clean NT SC9NT ammo if all else fails.
This is used by some LE types on the east cost where hollow
points are not allowed and looks like a good softpoint that
will also be allowed in indoor shooting ranges as there is no lead.
For carry I use a pocket type most of the time.
It will fit in the pants pocket, or the inside pocket of a jacket,coat or vest . mine is nylon and at worse may need a
saftypin to help hold it in place. Brigade has some clothing or
tee shirts with pockets that will work under loose clothing.
The R9 is small light and thin so use your head. Ladies
frill or lace pleats hand bags etc.
Remenber to gun safe your kids!!!!!
If they are too young then lock up your R9 at home or keep it
on you at all times, so you know where it is.
Also invest in a shotgun if you want home defence< it is harder
for small children to make work.
Good luck and contaqt any of us if you need.
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My condolences about your husband! We are sorry for your loss and appreciate what he and his colleagues are doing over there despite what the so-called "mainstream" media would have us believe.
On the subject of purses, I had my wife pick one out from here:
http://www.coronadoleather.com/
Purse carry allows carrying a bigger gun. It also requires you to keep your purse under your control at ALL times. I am getting my wife one with a locking zipper just in case she must leave it unattended in a low risk environment.
Also, be aware that if you are surprised, your attacker is likely to guess that any weapon you may have would most likely be in your purse. Expect to be quickly separated from your purse. So, awareness must be even greater than for on-body carry.
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Jessica - humble apolagies for not having said ''Hi'' and welcome before. :)
Not much to add otherwise right now on this thread, except to share my own sadness at your loss. We are a small band here (well, the active posters) - and you have I think already realized you are among friends.
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Thank you all for your help. My Rottie is about 18 months old and his name is DaVinci. I got him when he was 5 weeks old right after my husband was shot and killed by a sniper in Iraq. I only have my Rott, my R9S, and the jewelry I wear to make it appear I have a husband near by to deter the criminal element. Maybe I'm asking too many questions but I'm paranoid now and really appreciate everyone's help. I'm 27 and want to protect myself and 2 children. You all are so nice, thank you...
Tracker is right -- "You just keep right on asking whenever the mood suits you."
Your husband made the ultimate sacrifice for his country, and your loss and that of your children is immeasurable. Just know that there are a lot of hard-core patriots on this Forum, many of whom are grizzled veterans -- Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard, LEO, and "acronym agency" -- all of whom can be counted on to honor your late husband's service, to extend profound sympathy to you and your children, and to wish you well.
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O.K. so I went out and got a Pachmayr #4 slip on at the gun show in San Antonio. Fits perfect and compliments the gun for my petite hands and, in my opinion, the astethics of R9S. Now I want the trigger extension so, I believe it to be a Pearce compatible with Kahr's MK9/K9/K40 right? I understand I will have to "sculpt" the extension to the R9's magazine release. Now the hard part... I cannot for the life of me find a holster. I am pretty petite and usually wear form fitting clothing. I've come to the sad conclusion that I will have to buy a smart carry or the like. I guess the best in concealment for my frame. Just look like a pair of depends undergarments that some moths got a hold of. Maybe I'm too critical. Does anyone know of a good concealment holster for small bodied women?
Do you mean magazine extension? I noticed you mentioned trigger extension but also that the magazine release would need modified.
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:'( WoW! I am beyond the feeling of pride and elation to be a part of such a wonderful group of people. It is a true rarity in today's time. I was really apprehensive joining this group as this is the only forum I am or have ever been a part of. I deeply thank everyone for their kind words and reminders of the wonderful man, father, and hero I married. We were together since high school, college and finally married the day before he was deployed. (He was a computer engineer making 6 figures and left that to help our country.) I would like to extend a very big thank you to every veteran, law enforcement personnel, and every other law abiding individual and their families involved in making America a free entity. Now only if others, to include our government, were only as grateful. Seems "people" put a name on a tax funded memorial feel that says thank you enough. America needs to remember our veterans and their service. So many expendable pawns used to participate, in my opinion, somewhat redundant conflicts. I understand some reasonings behind helping another country but, I guess when you stick your nose into world politics to keep a portrayal of supremacy in the arms race or keep "big brother" image over a period of time and money, it's too late. ANYWAYS, a whole different topic of discussion...I am proud to be american and hope our new cabinet will instill a little more hope for our future. (I really hope I am not offending anyone, if so, I apologize.) Back on topic,...to clarify, yes the magazine pinky extension mod. This along with all the great advice given to me about holsters, concealment, are my next venture with the R9. I haven't even shot it yet! (I'm scared of the recoil, I admit it.)
If anyone has these magazines already modified and are willing to sell them, I would not hestitate to pick them up from you as I am mechanically challenged. Again, thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your welcome...Jessica of TX....
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R-9 girl, F.Y.I. Thier has been some expierimentation with a modified floorplate. Some of them have Pinky extensions. Contact Karl at Rohrbaugh with inquireis. The modifications I have were done to facilitate reliable function, So they may not fit in your R-9.
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: * * * I haven't even shot it yet! (I'm scared of the recoil, I admit it.) * * *
Jessica:
It's natural to be apprehensive of the recoil of a 13 oz. 9mm the first time you fire it. Don't worry, though. The recoil of the R9 is stout but entirely manageable. (A Smith & Wesson .500 "Snubbie," it's not.) When you fire your R9, just take care to employ a firm grip. So-called "limp wristing" has been known to cause more than a few malfunctions with this little "pocket rocket." Like a spirited horse, it performs best with a tight rein.
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Nice looking dog.
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Hello, I too am sorry for the loss of your husband. I have 3 kids, and god forbid, if I lost my wife........I am not sure what I would do. I must say though your husband was a very lucky man.....to have such a smokin' hot wife who has excellent taste in firearms, 2 kids, and obvously a very nice house. I think he did really, really good for his short time on earth. But anyway back to the subject at hand.......when I first got my pup (R9s.....not rottie), I was expecting some wicked recoil also, but it never came. It is not that bad at all. If you have shot previously......I predict you will have no trouble at all. You are small framed......but look to be in good shape, so holding the gun firmly should not be an issue. In fact, with your hand being smaller than a mans......you will probably control it better than some men. I have shot my pup 120 rds. so far.......with only 1 failure. I believe it was my fault though (limpwristing). I have used Radway 95 gr. jsp (50 rds.), Winchester 115 gr. jhp, and even 20 rds. of Sellier and Beliot. Hope you like your gun as much as I like mine..........Take care and good luck!
Mike Arnold
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Welcome Jessica,
Go to Chris' site as Richard stated on the first page for many answers on the R9.
As far as ammo I have had success with Winchester 115 gr Silvertips and Speer Golddots 115 gr jacket hollow points.
The guys here would probably pay me not to post a picture of myself holding my R9 in a swimsuit. :) Oh to be 27 again.
You are very gun savy - may be a credit to your wonderful husband. As stated he is a hero in all of our hearts - and so are people as yourself to have suppoted him in his decision to protect our country and way of life.
Proud to know you Jessica.
Take care and join in often.
Dave
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It's come to my attention that people around here think I'm either a wacky stripper or a delusional man. I'm shocked really. Is it my knowledge of 2 guns or the magazine mod I learned from this forum? Is it the "unbelievable story"? I can show proof to support ALL of my statements. The pics I agree, were too forward. I just figured a "ice breaker" into a male majority forum. This is my first forum, ever. My husband told me to buy a HKp2000sk, I didn't want anything to do with firearms then. Finally, I bought one, stolen. Having it made me realize I needed something smaller. A Google search for the smallest 9mm introduced me to the R9 and this forum. I do not socialize much and I guess I take advantage of the time I can express myself. I need a man's advice with a gun, I wanted it here (where else for a R9)? A little insight to my history, I thought, would bring some respect and genuine welcoming to pursue questions and concerns I may have. Why would someone act like the opposite sex on a forum? Is that the norm around here or other forums? A crazy stripper!? Offense taken. I work hard everyday and take care of my children BY MYSELF! I work in a hospital and have varying hours. A wacky stripper!? Can I ask how you would know what they act like? I see the male dominance here. I know it's absolutely crazy in today's time to have an educated 27 year old female who can articulate her words and have some political knowledge, enough to express herself in an open public forum. I did not come here to cause problems or manipulate the board for the $5 million dollar contest, or the R9 giveaway, or free anything other than information and acceptance. For the nice people who have helped me, thank you. For the rude, offending skeptics, you win. Keep posting people, there's very good info and I am learning alot. Goodbye...
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Wow, where did that come from? That drift you got from
someone was not on this forum to my knowledge and it
most certainly does not represent the majority here.
I always take people at their word and believed everything
you said. We are very happy to have female participation
here because it is both pleasant and rare.
Whoever did that owes you an apology and should keep his
suspicions to himself which is where they belong.
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R9GiRl:
I don't know what happened, but it's regrettable.
As for any attitudes of so-called "male dominance" . . . I've never had much patience with that sort of thing. My father died in 1942 and my mother, a teacher who never remarried, rasied me as an only child. She gave me my father's Winchester .22 when I was nine years old, taught me the rules of gun safety and how to shoot, enrolled me in the NRA, and turned me loose along the banks of the Arkansas River to supplement our larder. She was the toughest person I've ever known. I'm now married to a criminal judge, a woman who is absolutely beautiful on the outside but on the inside is the second toughest person I've ever known. In between those two paragons, I've seen any number of women in various overheated corners of the world who could cause even the strongest of men to keep close watch over their shoulders.
Best of luck to you . . . and please post a report on your first range session with the R9.
(I just read Tracker's message which he posted as I was writing mine. I often find myself in agreement with positions he expresses on this Forum. I do so here again.)
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This last post from R9GiRl is like a hand grenade at a cocktail party! Just goes to show how little we see this sort of thing (i.e. unexpected angry outburst) on this site. The web is a funny place; not like real life. Or maybe it is?
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Jessica,
I don't know what happened, but I can assure you that you are wanted here. Please post often.
We are all equal here and there are no special class distinctions that I know about.
I enjoy reading your posts.
Bill
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Jessica,
I am going to guess and say that you have been getting some PM's on the board, right? Pay them no attention.
The web is a place where anyone can be whoever they want but untill I am presented with evidence to the contrary I believe what anyone posts and don't think about any other possibilities or scenarios or ulterior motives. Sometimes you have to have a thick skin on messageboards. If you have been getting some strange PM's than that means whoever posted them is not confident to post them on an open forum so you can take those strange PM's and delete them to the intergalactic bit bucket. I have not checked out the PM options on this board but see if you can't block PM's from specific individuals.
I am anxious to hear about your first impressions of your first range trip. I really want to know if you are going to be comfortable with the recoil.
Post as often as you want, you are welcome here.
Mike
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Wow - that was a bolt from the blue Jessica - really.
I had not seen anything earlier that I would have felt was other than in the spirit of friendliness - we are not here to demean anyone or agrandize the male shooter, or try and make fun of lady shooters. Heck, we have far too few of them as it is and I am always more than pleased to see ladies taking responsibility for their own safety.
I wonder too if PM's were sent to you - if so please PM me with details as it is only DDGator and me who moderate here - and usually that is an easy task. However, if something is amiss we want to know about it.
I will apologise right now for what may have offended and just hope you will see that we are a bunch of pretty sincere and honorable folk. I also would be very keen to hear a report from you re the R9 - we like to amass info all the time.
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Jessica,
I am especially interested to see how you enjoy the new R9S.
Please be sure and tell how it is going.
All the folks here are just regular people and very friendly.
......One thing that I did think of: Sometimes we do find some strange people on the Internet. Just to be safe, it may be better not to give your complete name and location.
It's just not worth the hassle. I used mine one time, but quickly edited it out on another forum.
After a while, some of the folks here know where the others live, because we might trade a holster or pistol, and you need the mailing address.
Bill
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Hi Jessica,
I have participated in MANY forums, but presently only post here and at Total Protection Interactive, primarily because so many other boards are populated by idiots and trolls. While this is a good group, we are unfortunately not immune.
I agree with the advice of limiting the information you post. I use my first name only, and Pittsburgh is no longer my present location.
Many of us value female participation here because many of us have wives that we care about and want to keep safe. Finding guns, holsters, etc. that work for a women is 2-3 times as difficult as doing so for a man, so posting your questions and your experiences here will help others in ways that you may never know.
Do take Chris up on his offer to pursue the matter of the troublesome PM's. The very few problems we have had here have been well handled.
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R9Girl,
Sorry to hear that some one has felt the need to go "off-Board" to give you grief..
It is absolutely not a thing that we condone here..
Please let one of the mods know of any problems,and they will take care of it most expediently!!
Stay and share..
Brenden
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One curious thing about this dialogue is that "SS Pursuit"
posted a message here to Jessica to check her pm. That
post no longer exists here; why is that and is it relevant
to the offensive pm that Jessica received and relayed to
us in no uncertain terms? If I am off base on this, let me
know.
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No tracker, you are not off base. I was thinking the same thing myself. I saw the post that you were referring to, and I thought that it was just my imagination, your are right. :)
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Thanks for the confirm, Jaycee.
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I also recall that "temporary" post.
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Here is the IM I sent to Jessica:
Welcome aboard Jessica!
That being said, I've "bit my tongue" for two days now and finally made my decision to respond.
I'm a "Cop" and with you posting photos in a bikini AND posting your FULL name and what city & state you live in makes me nervous. Any dirtbag on the net can run across your post. I would suggest that you edit out your last name and city.
Please don't take this as criticism, it's just that I tend to be overly cautious/protective with single CUTE women.
Again, welcome aboard and you do have a talent for understanding firearms which is rare (AND refreshing) in younger women.
PursuitSS
If you find it objectionable, please advise!
PursuitSS
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Thx Pursuit - nothing wrong with that - far from it. A most altruistic communication.
I guess there is an attempt to clutch at straws and try and understand where things could have gone south.
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Pursuit:
That doesn't appear to be objectionable to me. Thanks for the clarification.
The Forum apparently has "a troll or two lurking under the bridge." Thankfully, they have been relatively rare around here.
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After Jessica posted about being upset I sent her this IM:
I hope my comment to you did not upset you. I see that you are upset with a comment(s).
I support women shooting, I talked my wife and her sister into playing/practicing with my HK MP-5 9mm submachine gun. The first match they entered was the 1997 Fall Knob Creek Open, my wife took first place and her sister came in second.
Again, I hope my comments about removing your last name and city did not upset you.
PursuitSS
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PursuitSS,
Definitely nothing wrong with your PM's......in fact I thought of pm'ing her the same sort of thing. I hope this experience has not scared her off, as it would be a shame. I also find it refreshing to see women shooters. I finally talked my wife into getting her ccw permit. She carries an NAA .32 in her purse. While it is not the best weapon for defense........it is what she was comfortable with.
Take care, Mike Arnold
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R-9 Girl, You obviously have a fanclub here. Your Hello thread was generated as a hot topic. True the pics posted probably helped that but hey, Maybe Ill send Blue grips a pic of me in my speedo to post too! :). Try not to be thin skinned. This is a firearm forum with alot of good info on it! If you choose to leave you can still browse for info. Personaly, Like you, I noticed "phantom posts" here and elsewhere on the board. I also got a few negative P.M.s in my time here. You may wanna consider posting those P.M.s! If the folks lack the stones to post thier objections for all to see, Id say that says volumes of any "credibility" on thier part! :P
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We have close to 1000 registered for the board. It could have been anybody. It/they have probably never even actually posted here.
Mike
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The members list have a lot of ?MEMBERS? that need to be purged / Flushed.. Take a look under the "S"'s for example..
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Indeed RJ - I wonder about many - I have noticed occasional screwball names now and again and mentioned those to Duane - who has taken care of things.
AFAIK - anyone can lurk - I invariably see ''guests'' - so in a sense, if members are on the list for months and never even posted - could just be a purge is in order. Won't stop folks reading.
I can't do any purge myself.
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Well please don't purge people just for inactivity after a few months. I probably would have been purged a while ago! I come and go as my time permits. Sometimes I get out of the habit but I make it back.
I also run a small BB and usually the fake/spam members are clear from their web URL.
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I was refering to names like, "sexy_girl_ Hottie" With no posts, ever! As a member, they can use the PM feature.
JUST my thoughts.. :)
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Two valid points - Jim I would if given the chance only purge those will stupid handles and zero posts over many months - it is they who have access they do not deserve - instance an ability to send PM's. That is why I wish Jessica would respond and let me or Duane know if this occurred.
RJ - yes - that example of yours is typical sad to say.
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Hey capt.koolaid,
You posted "I noticed "phantom posts" here"
OUCH, that hurts, remember, I'm from California, I'm a sensitive kind of guy.... :'(
Just kidding :)
Oh ya, I do know what you were saying and I agree with you.
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I think Jessica really meant "good-by"; that entire thread was
both very curious, interesting, and unfortunate--one never
knows. I would hope that after all the furor that she could
share the source of the ims with us; if she doesn't choose to
do this then one has to ask about the real deal.
In any case this forum will continue to thrive and survive
despite a few road bumps along the way.
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I was disappointed that she did not explain the cause, especially since all were concerned about what happened.
It looks like the end of the matter. Without an explanation, nothing can be fixed.
Bill
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Since there was an overwhelming display of support for Jessica, with no subsequent response, I'm also beginning to wonder if someone played a bad joke on the board.
Bill
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That crossed my mind also, Bill.
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It is interesting that the photos are now deleted. How was
that done?
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I think it should be possible to see if her husband was killed in Iraq. That might shed some light on the postings. Dan
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tracker,
When you modify the post, the picture link can be deleted.
Dan, one post was modified to say "Jessica of TX', rather than the complete name and city, as originally stated.
Administrators probably take nightly backups in order to preserve vital data, so it would be a minor task to restore an old entry for review.
Then, confirming the validity of a post would be no big thing. A Google search argument might even suffice. You could enter: Jessica lastname somecity, TX.
Perhaps it's not worth the trouble. Either there is a very rude poster who sent a PM, or else the whole episode is phony.
Bill
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I too am still wishing for ''closure'' of some sort but looks like we will not get any further explanations.
Great pity - we can but surmise it seems.
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There is an easy solution to the problem, the forum administrator simply needs to check the offensive IM's sent to Jessica and who they were from, then block their IP address. He should also be able to pull up her email address from when she registered and then contact her directly and explain the actions taken.
PursuitSS
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Unless someone's curiosity is about to kill them it seems that
we should drop the subject and learn from this episode; if
someone leaves about as suddenly as they appear, maybe
something is not quite right. This has all the earmarks of a
hoax and someone is probably laughing at us.
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PersuitSS,
Being able to read PM's is one thing that the board administrator may not be able to do. After all they are personal or private messages. The ability to read PM's might not be built into the software.
Mike
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AMEN Tracker, you hit the nail on the head!
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Mike is probably right - no boards I know of give access to admin for PM's - they remain private, same as passwords.
Tracker is probably right - suck up the conjecture and move on ;)
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Yes guys - time to move on. Maybe in the future some other R9 loving women will become part of the forum. It is nice to have the view point of the fair sex.
A few asked if Jessica really existed. The first day Jessica posted my curiosity got the best of me and I did a search on her name and home town to read about her husband. There were news article releases of when she was in college in the past being on the dean list assuming she was going by her maiden name. There also was someone who was killed by a sniper in Iraq - different last name but once again she could be going by her maiden name.
So I guess we may never know. So if Jessica is Jessica the best to her and the future.
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riffraff:
The bulletin board application may not provide administrators with the capability to read others' IMs from inside the application, but the owner has full access to the database. It would be trivial to open 'er up and have a peek inside. I would never advocate such an action, of course, but it'd be easy to do.
Hi, by the way... I'm new. My name's Derek.
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Hi Derek and welcome.
Do you have a R9 interest or just guns in general - either way is fine.
Join in often.
Dave
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I can't wait to get a Rohrbaugh, but I don't think it's up to me. :)
I'm trying to sell off a GLOCK 19 so I can put a deposit on the R9s Stealth. Even so, the dealer informs me his next shipment won't be in for another 5-6 months. At least it gives me time to save.
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Derek - Hi and welcome :)
Tom (Irish Guard) is the guy to approach if you want a pup sooner rather than later - worth a try.
Jessica - if you still slipped by to read - good luck and bon voyage :)
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Many of us got our R9s from Tom Watson (theirishguard) here on the forum. Many times he has them on stock and gets new guns in regularly.
Tom is currently off line for awhile longer for medical reasons. Hopefully he will be back in a few weeks.
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Derek,
Welcome to the forum. Please come back often.
Bill
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Derek,
Do you know if DELETED PM's are kept on the servers disk and/or are DELETED PM's included as part of a backup. I am thinking that somehow, sometime, deleted PM's have to dissapear. If not it would be like your ISP keeping a copy of all your old Emails which they do not. They keep a record of when you were online and what your IP address was during that time but not a record of every keystroke you make.
Mike
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Thank you for the terrific welcome, everyone.
I have certainly observed, from previous posts, Tom Watson's knack for getting hold of, and selling R9s. By all accounts he is a pleasure to deal with and I'll definitely keep that in mind.
Mike:
That's a great question, and one I don't have the answer to at the moment. Even if a user deletes a received PM, it may still exist in the sender's outbox. As for if/when complete deletion takes place, I really don't know. There are several directions the YABB team could have taken and all have their pros and cons. It's worth checking out, though.