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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: Duncan223 on February 15, 2007, 02:27:11 PM
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Well, I'm closing in on week three of ownership and started shooting today only to develop a FTE problem about 20 rounds into the session.
I thought it was a fluke, and did the extraction, replaced the mag, charged the weapon, and shot 3 or 4 more rounds only to have another FTE.
I complete the same process, and the FTE happened after every single round at this point. I shot 5 more times, and each time the pistol failed to kick out the spent shell casing.
[size=13]Any suggestions?[/size]
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Sorry to hear this after 200 failure frees!!
Gun cleaned/lubed in the last 50-75 rounds?
Reassembled with recoil spring orientated properly?
Recoil spring replaced at ? rounds?
Ammo being used same as before? (lot # also)
FTE with both mags?
Also please make sure your grips are snug-not overally tight-as this can cause other problems down the line..Should not have anything to do with FTE/FTF
IMO,most pup probs have been ammo,"dirty" gun,mag related..
Hope this helps with the pup..
Be sure to check out Chris's great info here..
http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/rohrbaugh/
Brenden
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Yes, both mags, but different brand ammo (Fiocchi, but its still FMJ, though).
I cleaned and lubed the pistol after each trip to the range, having only shot 50 rounds each time. The extractor moves freely (as it should) and shows loaded/unloaded chamber as designed.
Recoil spring is in correctly, (finished end vs un-finished end).
The pistol ran like a champ using the el-cheapo Walmart WWB, but running
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Please try the WWB again.. ;)
OAL may be the culprit here..
I have shot WWB,STHPs,and GDHPs (115 grains in all of them),without a problem in more than 1 pup.. ;D
All FMJ is not created equal.. ;)
I currently have GDHPs in the pup,but would not feel undergunned with the STHPs either..
Good luck,
Brenden
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124gr. Gold dots, 124gr. Gold dots, 124gr. Gold dots, 124gr Gold dots, 124gr Gold dots, did I say 124gr Gold dots? :P ::) ;)
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I think you got it, Newt; works for me.
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Duncan:
I'm sure you know all of this, but here are my thoughts after reading your post.
The determining factor in diagnosing whether a problem such as the one you describe is a failure-to-eject or a failure-to-extract is the nature of the clearing action required to overcome the malfunction. If the fired case can be cleared by simply racking the slide, a failure-to-eject has usually occurred; if repeated racking cycles are needed or if tools are required to clear the malfunction, then you're dealing with a failure-to-extract.
Ejection failures in a semi-automatic weapon are often related to a damaged extractor, a weak extractor spring or, much less commonly, to a weak or damaged ejector mechanism. Failures to eject can also be caused by an accumulation of carbon or fouling on the extractor or the ejector mechanism, and from short or defective recoil. You indicate that you had carefully cleaned the pistol before the range session. If repetitive malfunctions occur which are not corrected by cleaning/lubricating and do not appear to be ammo related, you may have a damaged extractor, extractor spring, or extractor roll pin. Much less likely, but still possible, would be a damanged ejector mechanism. All of that having been said, however, my long-distance suggestion is that the problem with your R9 might be due to a weakened recoil spring which is adversely affecting recoil cycles and resulting in failures to extract and eject spent cartridges.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the suggestions.
The empty casing is pulled from the barrel, but hangs-up inside the area between the barrel and the edge of the slide. So, I guess it would be more of a failure to eject as the casing is out of the barrel. So, a spring is on order.
After replacing the spring, I will run some 124gr. Gold dots (yes, I got it.... 124gr. Gold dots!!!)
If the problem continues, which I hope it doesn't, then I will post the findings and PICS.
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Duncan, it sounds like you are extracting but not ejecting. Have you had any stove pipes when the spent case gets lodged in the ejector port? This could all be due to the way you are gripping the gun. This a common problem with small guns especially in larger the caliber. Try a firmer grip with the backstrap tight against the web of your hand. Good luck!
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Problem found and fixed!! ;D
It seems that some how the extractor suffered a little damage (not sure how or why) and needed to be replaced.
Shipped to the factory, received it back in five days (minus two for the weekend, it was a three day turn-around).
Now it works perfect, again!!
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Alright! Way to go! Thanks for the report.
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Nice! Good to hear they got it up and runn'n again. 8)
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A pat on the back of Rohrbaugh and their customer service. Tom