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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: hoserack on May 05, 2008, 06:58:57 PM

Title: One in the chamber carry
Post by: hoserack on May 05, 2008, 06:58:57 PM: I've carried 4 different pistols over the years.
Barreta .25, then I upgraded to a Colt Pony .380.
I traded in the Pony for a lighter Kel Tec .380.
Now I'm packin the big gun R9S.
I've always carried with one in the chamber.
I don't want to have to rack a round in a high stress situation.
Is there any way this R9S will fire unless I pull the trigger?
I always carry in my rear jeans pocket.
So I'm sitting on the thing allot.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carryIn a high stress situa
Post by: harrydog on May 05, 2008, 08:30:29 PM: I don't think there is any way the R9 will fire unless the trigger is pulled or pushed. But I would never carry it in my pocket without it being in a holster. Any number of things could happen that could snag the trigger as you pocket or draw the gun, especially in a high stress situation.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: tak on May 05, 2008, 08:43:04 PM: Hi, I have always carried my R9S in my front right pocket with one in the chamber. The only negative is a very slow draw while sitting down. Cheers....Tak
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: hoserack on May 05, 2008, 11:00:55 PM: Can the gun go off with one in the chamber if no one pulls the trigger?
Can the hammer be forced forward?
Can it go off by sitting on it?
Sorry if these seem like stupid questions, but then I'm no gun smith.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Benjamin on May 06, 2008, 01:31:50 PM: My$.02:
No
No
No
There are no stupid questions.
IMHO, the R9 was made for back pocket wear. ALWAYS in a proper fitting holster.

Ben
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Richard S on May 06, 2008, 03:36:11 PM: I always carry my R9 holstered with a round in the chamber. The trigger is completely protected by the holster. I consider it to be absolutely safe to do so.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: harrydog on May 06, 2008, 05:45:33 PM: Quote
I always carry my R9 holstered with a round in the chamber. The trigger is completely protected by the holster. I consider it to be absolutely safe to do so.
Exactly. But carried directly in the pocket without a holster and with a round in the chamber is an accident waiting to happen in my opinion.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Richard S on May 06, 2008, 06:02:11 PM: Quote
Exactly. But carried directly in the pocket without a holster and with a round in the chamber is an accident waiting to happen in my opinion.

Amen to that!
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Jack Foulard on May 06, 2008, 11:08:24 PM: Double ditto!
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: hoserack on May 07, 2008, 12:14:39 AM: Quote
Exactly. But carried directly in the pocket without a holster and with a round in the chamber is an accident waiting to happen in my opinion.
Why?
What could happen differently than with a holster?
Is inserting and removal the issue?
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Brenden on May 07, 2008, 12:25:25 AM: Quote
Why?
What could happen differently than with a holster?
Is inserting and removal the issue?

When you have a gun going in/out of pocket without something covering the trigger area-you ALWAYS have a chance of a discharge unintended!! :(

A proper pocket holster solves any potential problems!! ;)
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: harrydog on May 07, 2008, 09:20:14 AM: Quote
Why?
What could happen differently than with a holster?
Is inserting and removal the issue?
Yes. In a moment of distraction or in a high stress situation you could inadvertantly grab the trigger when withdrawing the gun or the trigger could snag on something when inserting the gun. The primary purpose of a pocket holster is to cover up the trigger.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: hoserack on May 07, 2008, 01:48:15 PM: Do they make a holster that will hold the R9s and fit in most rear pockets of jeans?
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: ccoorreeyy on May 07, 2008, 01:51:53 PM: There are several makers that have rear pocket holsters for the R9. The pocket needs to be deep enought to close at top so no one can see in. I have a Hedley R9 rear pocket that works very well in my jeans (size 38).
Corey
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: tak on May 07, 2008, 02:42:09 PM: Hi Guys,
I do carry my R9s in a K&D holster. Thanks for the clarification. Cheers, Tak
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Richard S on May 07, 2008, 06:04:07 PM: I might add that the so-called "back-pocket" holsters work well in the strong-side front pockets of Dockers, pleated slacks, and BDUs. "A rose by any other name . . . ."
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Fastsheriff on May 07, 2008, 07:48:28 PM: I just got one of the DeSantis Superfly pocket hlosters. Comes with a square flap for back pocket and can be removed for front pocket and it is some sticky stuff on the outside.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Richard S on May 07, 2008, 07:53:23 PM: Fastsheriff:

Welcome to the Forum. I think you will find it to be a congenial, knowledgeable, and diverse group of individuals who congregate here.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Fastsheriff on May 07, 2008, 09:26:58 PM: Richard
Thank you, I have been on for about a month. Got a pup for backup/offduty. Best small gun I have ever had. I have been in Law Enforcement for 31 years and carried a lot of different guns over the years.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Richard S on May 07, 2008, 09:39:47 PM: Fastsheriff:

First of all, permit me to thank you for your years of service in law enforcement.

Your opinion of the R9 mirrors my own. I have been carrying R9 No. 132 for the past four years. It has shown no vices in all that time. I personally consider the R9 to be the finest pocket pistol yet developed.

Again, welcome to the campfire.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: hoserack on May 08, 2008, 12:23:47 AM: Quote
I just got one of the DeSantis Superfly pocket hlosters. Comes with a square flap for back pocket and can be removed for front pocket and it is some sticky stuff on the outside.
Do you have a link where I can see this holster?
I have carried a loaded pistol in my rear pants pocket for the last 10 years without a holster and one in the chamber.
But I'm willing to buy a holster if it will fit in rear jeans pocket.
It would have to be a pretty thin leather and no bottom covering the end of barrel.
This gun is working on snug as it is.
Also I don't want the top of gun visable.
Any links would be appreciated.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Richard S on May 08, 2008, 07:43:07 AM: Hoserack:

Until Fastsheriff checks back, here's one link to the DeSantis "Superfly":

http://www.desantisholster.com/m44.html

And here's a side-by-side shot of my R9 (with its "CF Blues") and my G380 (with its "Sterlings") both in "back-pocket" rigs by R. J. Hedley. The back panel of the G380 holster is mounted with Chicago screws and can be removed if wanted.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/R9G380.jpg)
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: theirishguard on May 08, 2008, 12:21:08 PM: fastsheriff, welcome from Texas, pull up a log and sit close to the fire. Tom
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Fastsheriff on May 08, 2008, 12:34:13 PM: Hoserack;

The Superfly is thicker than a leather model and with the square panel is even thicker. I wear 511 pants most of the time and the pockets are big enough that it is not a problem. With blue jeans it would be a thick fit in a back pocket. I am going to order a leather holster for when I wear blue jeans. I do like the sticky finish on the holster and with the panel removed and in a front pocket it is not to bad when I wear blue jeans but the jeans are "relaxed fit".
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Jack_Bauer on May 08, 2008, 01:08:07 PM: Fastsheriff-

P7 now Rohrbaugh, got any openings in your department? Did you ever pick up an M8?
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: Fastsheriff on May 08, 2008, 07:15:13 PM: Jack;
I have openings in the Detention Center, all of my road Deputies start in the Detention Center. Got an M8 about two months ago. AG code date with four magazines and N/S.

Don
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry with pocket slipper
Post by: jackrogue on July 05, 2008, 06:02:20 PM: According to the pdf Owner's Manual, "The 'safety' of the Rohrbaugh is the double action only design, which means that the trigger has to be pulled through a long, double action arc to fire the gun. Once loaded, this pistol is ready to fire without further actions to disengage a mechanical safety. Similarly, the pistol does not have a 'magazine safety'. As with many other military and self defense pistols, the ability to fire the weapon even when changing a magazine was considered of greater importance."

The safety and trigger similarities to my Glock 21 (.45 ACP) appeal to me. The Glock is my primary concealed weapon (fanny pack), but it's considerably larger/heavier than the compact R9S --- which now piques my interest. The pocket slipper with laser sight - http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/store/pocketslipper.htm- really caught my eye. Great concept: just pack it in your rear pants pocket, sans holster, where it imprints on your butt like a wallet. I mostly wear jeans, so this appeals to me.

Does anyone regularly carry an R9S equipped with the pocket slipper with laser sight? If so, is it reasonably comfortable and readily accessible?

Like other posts to this forum, I'd also like to range-test one before I buy. Considering their limited availability, guess that won't happen.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: tracker on July 05, 2008, 07:11:13 PM: I recall some one on another thread mentioning that one
reason for the holster other than the imprint was to cover
the trigger for safety purposes. I think they had a valid point.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry with pocket slipper
Post by: hoserack on July 06, 2008, 12:42:17 AM: Quote
According to the pdf Owner's Manual, "The 'safety' of the Rohrbaugh is the double action only design, which means that the trigger has to be pulled through a long, double action arc to fire the gun. Once loaded, this pistol is ready to fire without further actions to disengage a mechanical safety. Similarly, the pistol does not have a 'magazine safety'. As with many other military and self defense pistols, the ability to fire the weapon even when changing a magazine was considered of greater importance."

The safety and trigger similarities to my Glock 21 (.45 ACP) appeal to me. The Glock is my primary concealed weapon (fanny pack), but it's considerably larger/heavier than the compact R9S --- which now piques my interest. The pocket slipper with laser sight - http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/store/pocketslipper.htm- really caught my eye. Great concept: just pack it in your rear pants pocket, sans holster, where it imprints on your butt like a wallet. I mostly wear jeans, so this appeals to me.

Does anyone regularly carry an R9S equipped with the pocket slipper with laser sight? If so, is it reasonably comfortable and readily accessible?

Like other posts to this forum, I'd also like to range-test one before I buy. Considering their limited availability, guess that won't happen.

The pocket slipper looks like it would be difficult to get fingers below trigger guard. I like it other than that.
Don't need the laser though.
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: theirishguard on July 06, 2008, 12:21:30 PM: Jack, Welcome to the forum and the pocket pistol concept. The R9 is great in a pocket holster, hides outline and covers trigger. However, I would foreget the laser deal. When you really need it Mr. Murphy will show up. Tom
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: DTM_39 on July 08, 2008, 07:36:45 PM: When R-Bros figure out how to put a laser in the grip I'll get one just to have it. But if this gun is needed for self defense purposes its going to be up close. Dan
Title: Re: One in the chamber carry
Post by: P7Enigma on July 09, 2008, 01:15:14 PM: Quote
".... its going to be up close."

Yeah, I think I would "second" that motion...no laser for me I wouldn't think...you will not be able to see it anyway when your R9 is shoved down the perps throat right before you pull the trigger.